If All cleric squad uses that BlueBubble skill.

Jer - Dreamweaver
Jer - Dreamweaver Posts: 215 Arc User
edited September 2009 in Cleric
Like 6 Clerics using BB at the same time, will they be invincible?
And does BB work in TW? Cause what if 50+ Clerics use BB at the same or something
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  • Bagoly_ - Sanctuary
    Bagoly_ - Sanctuary Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Jer - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Like 6 Clerics using BB at the same time, will they be invincible?
    And does BB work in TW? Cause what if 50+ Clerics use BB at the same or something

    If I now correctly, the heal stacks, the damage reduction remains 50%.

    Btw a squad that can't move is mostly useless.
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    BB only effects the members in your squad.
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  • Predikador - Harshlands
    Predikador - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    If more people will concentrate their attacks on one member of the squad at a time the clerics will be killed eventually. To become invincible you need the BB to act at faction lvl and the number of enemies to be fairly low.
  • G_ree_n - Sanctuary
    G_ree_n - Sanctuary Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    It depends on what type of attacks are being used. Regeneration Aura can be interrupted. One that comes to mind is the attacks used by Myriadtail Wyvern, the last boss of FB51. Using BB on him is largely a waste unless you have venos in your squad that can give you sparks so you can start it up again.

    You also have to remember that its only good within 15 meters. If you're thinking about using it in TW, I doubt it will be very successful in such a big place, unless you try it right by the enemies crystal and even then, you're gonna meet some resistance. b:chuckle You're probably not the first person to think of this ...
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    BB in TW = Fail

    That would equal instant death b:surrender
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  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    BB in TW = Fail

    That would equal instant death b:surrender

    this lol.....
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    this lol.....

    b:sweat

    I have seen it done and it was....well....b:laughb:shocked
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    2 bubbles if you are not careful can actually cancel out each other out, or give bare minimum heals lower than 1 BB, if your in the same squad. I had several instances where both clerics decided to BB by mistake and waited for the other to cancel it (>.>;) melees died cause they did not get healed at all.

    By the time we have BB we clerics should be able to tell the diff. between a charm hp tick, IH hp tick, BB hp tick and a natural HP tick. The situation was very noticable that they did not get a normal BB hp tick.

    Now, BB itself has a 'ticking' time. Whether it is when the balls pulses or when the blue swirls appear on each affected character or just plain invisible. If you can time this 'tick' so that it doesnt collide or overlap with the other BB then it will go its course, but at some point there will be a time when the ticks collide again.


    ps TW BB = "Kill Meh Im Teh big BLUE target right HERE!"
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

    ps TW BB = "Kill Meh Im Teh big BLUE target right HERE!"

    b:victoryb:chuckleb:pleased

    Oh soooo true!!
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  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    G_ree_n - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It depends on what type of attacks are being used. Regeneration Aura can be interrupted. One that comes to mind is the attacks used by Myriadtail Wyvern, the last boss of FB51. Using BB on him is largely a waste unless you have venos in your squad that can give you sparks so you can start it up again.

    Always used BB on Wyvern and it NEVER got interrupted. Also in TT 1-2 with the boss that starts AoE when his HP goes below 50% and that can almost 1shot me with his AoE NEVER interrupted my BB b:bye
  • Skimi - Dreamweaver
    Skimi - Dreamweaver Posts: 333 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    never seen wyvern interupt, i know that 2nd boss in fb51 cancels BB
  • G_ree_n - Sanctuary
    G_ree_n - Sanctuary Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Lenyel - Harshlands wrote: »
    Always used BB on Wyvern and it NEVER got interrupted. Also in TT 1-2 with the boss that starts AoE when his HP goes below 50% and that can almost 1shot me with his AoE NEVER interrupted my BB b:bye
    How many times have you done it? I've been proven right in just the few times I've been in noob squads that have insisted on BB and I've given in just to avoid argument ... and then had to make sure the venos would give me spark to start it back up again.

    So if you've only done it a few times, perhaps you've gotten lucky.
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  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    b:sweat

    I have seen it done and it was....well....b:laughb:shocked

    i meant ^^ this^^
    >


    this


    lol......so true xD



    and i saw it in a vid >.< suiciide on a stick get em while theyre hot lol...
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    i seen cleric BB behind towers, walls and even inside catapults. But with the new team thing its pretty much pointless
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  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i seen cleric BB behind towers, walls and even inside catapults. But with the new team thing its pretty much pointless

    team thing?b:question
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  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    G_ree_n - Sanctuary wrote: »
    How many times have you done it? I've been proven right in just the few times I've been in noob squads that have insisted on BB and I've given in just to avoid argument ... and then had to make sure the venos would give me spark to start it back up again.

    So if you've only done it a few times, perhaps you've gotten lucky.

    Considering FBs and BHs at least 20 times (at least). Always used BB never had any kind of problem...
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    team thing?b:question

    you can press alt + T
    and in TW turn faction members off.
    uncheck every class but cleric, and you have the list of nearby enemy clerics. Click on one of the names and you have them targeted.


    sigh you made me explain all of that b:sweat
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
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  • Bobbyjoe - Sanctuary
    Bobbyjoe - Sanctuary Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Lenyel - Harshlands wrote: »
    Considering FBs and BHs at least 20 times (at least). Always used BB never had any kind of problem...

    Then your lucky. The second boss and third boss has interrupted my BB. Same thing for FB70 the last two bosses has interrupted my BB.
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  • Fistriel - Heavens Tear
    Fistriel - Heavens Tear Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Bobbyjoe - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Then your lucky. The second boss and third boss has interrupted my BB. Same thing for FB70 the last two bosses has interrupted my BB.

    I never got interrupted in FB51 + i have never seen another cleric who got interrupted there. And since low lvls dont get it to stay back cause 2nd & 3rd does AoE, i always BB them.

    In FB69, yes.

    And 2 BBs at one Boss are useless cause dmg reduction dont stack, so 1 BB / 1 Iron is the better way (+ better for one the clerics MP charm ;P).
  • Yukiino - Lost City
    Yukiino - Lost City Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »



    ps TW BB = "Kill Meh Im Teh big BLUE target right HERE!"


    ahahahaha lawlosaur.
  • __Cherry__ - Dreamweaver
    __Cherry__ - Dreamweaver Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    mulitple BB can have short term gains however on cleric is going to die. Due the healing stacking and non-damaging reducing remains static.
    As for TW, I agree with the others ur just a large target and likely to be interrupted by DDs when casting.
    Just us it as a quick switch or emergency situation

    Best of luck Cutie
  • Desire - Dreamweaver
    Desire - Dreamweaver Posts: 269 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    2 BB's doesnt stalk each other, its the same dmg reduction and same heal ( only if the second BB its not poped at the same time with the first one, wihich rarely happens coz of casting). Most likely if you are in dungeons and there are like 2-3 clerics in squad and the situation needs BB, preferably 1 to BB and other to RB. and the 3rd cleric to extra heal if needed or DD. but 2 BB's = 1 BB. ( tryed that in rebirth many times. same thing ). b:laugh
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Desire - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    but 2 BB's = 1 BB. ( tryed that in rebirth many times. same thing ). b:laugh
    your lucky then. 2 BBs have a rare chance of canceling each other out as my previous post
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    your lucky then. 2 BBs have a rare chance of canceling each other out as my previous post

    either that or both she and the other cleric must have some sort of freaky mental psychic link or something that forces both of them to cast at the exact same time every time. b:shocked
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  • Desire - Dreamweaver
    Desire - Dreamweaver Posts: 269 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    either that or both she and the other cleric must have some sort of freaky mental psychic link or something that forces both of them to cast at the exact same time every time. b:shocked

    Usually we we're doing it with second cleric for extra heals, not for 2 BB's and when my BB was up or about to be poped up other cleric started to channel his/shes BB. that's why i said 2 BB = 1 BB.
  • Mythsoul - Heavens Tear
    Mythsoul - Heavens Tear Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Seal, Stun, Sleep all cancel BB
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  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    2 bubbles if you are not careful can actually cancel out each other out, or give bare minimum heals lower than 1 BB, if your in the same squad. I had several instances where both clerics decided to BB by mistake and waited for the other to cancel it (>.>;) melees died cause they did not get healed at all.

    By the time we have BB we clerics should be able to tell the diff. between a charm hp tick, IH hp tick, BB hp tick and a natural HP tick. The situation was very noticable that they did not get a normal BB hp tick.

    Now, BB itself has a 'ticking' time. Whether it is when the balls pulses or when the blue swirls appear on each affected character or just plain invisible. If you can time this 'tick' so that it doesnt collide or overlap with the other BB then it will go its course, but at some point there will be a time when the ticks collide again.


    ps TW BB = "Kill Meh Im Teh big BLUE target right HERE!"

    Never had that happen to me, back when Niddle and I were first trying out Delta with our 2 clerics, we used to double BB each time. First few times didn't bother worrying about it, and both would tend to go up close to or on the same time. So we'd go too many secs between where healing didn't occur, and would tick charms. After that, I'd have Niddle BB and I'd time mine so that it would hit halfway between. Usually I'd get timing within half a second or dead on so that the heal effect of blue swirls on someone would be constant. Getting healed every 2.5 secs made it so there was no charm ticking at all, which would be great with this current pricing of them.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Getting healed every 2.5 secs made it so there was no charm ticking at all, which would be great with this current pricing of them.
    yes it would. But like how you see 2 diff. car blinkers in rush hour, blink at separate times then slowly blink together, then blink separately again, you wouldnt wanna risk that on a double wave, or hell any wave. Especially now because they fixed RB so that if someone dies, and everyone goes to 1K to pick them up to re-enter mid run, it wont let you back in anymore atm.
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  • Lalalie - Heavens Tear
    Lalalie - Heavens Tear Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    BB in tw is fail obviously....well just get you sent to base faster.

    the most efficient BB stack is 2 when the 2nd is cast 2-3 secs after the first for double heals...the 50% dmg bless does not stack obviously else TT would be hella easy
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  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    yes it would. But like how you see 2 diff. car blinkers in rush hour, blink at separate times then slowly blink together, then blink separately again, you wouldnt wanna risk that on a double wave, or hell any wave. Especially now because they fixed RB so that if someone dies, and everyone goes to 1K to pick them up to re-enter mid run, it wont let you back in anymore atm.

    If you leave to pick them up, you have to trash all your aura quests or it won't let you back in. This was still working last week when we had to pick our wizard up. Luckily already had most of them finished.

    If you time it right, it did not change when it would occur. Each one was a constant of every 5 secs, and the blue swirl of healing never left. We'd watch the barbs health, and it would get a constant boost that would heal every 2.5 secs, without any heal aura up. Maybe something changed in the past month or two, but it was definitely and consistently working when we were using it.
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