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nerdraging wrote: »As Bartle pointed out in his Player Types paper, Achievers and Griefers are different points on the same spectrum - Achievers act on the world while Griefers act on other players. A factor-based model of player motivations created from player survey data suggests that a desire for power and control are the underlying themes that connect Achievers and Griefers. Achievers enjoy the power derived from items and abilities and the increased control these give them over the game world (faster movement, better protection, etc.). Griefers on the other hand enjoy the power derived from dominating or tricking other players and the control this gives them over other players. The underlying similarity between Achievers and Griefers is supported by survey data. These two motivations are highly correlated (r = .40, N = 1995).
Unsolicited or unbalanced player-killing is the most straight-forward form of griefing - it in essence deprives another player of all his power and in the process demonstrates the griefer's dominance and control over other people.
Extract from 'Daedalus Project'
Makes for an interesting read if you have enough intelligence to go through it. So how much of it is real life and how much of it is just a game?
More for those fugwads who keeps saying QQless pewpewmoar and says its just a game, roll a PVE server
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3604/fixing_online_gaming_idiocy_a_.php
Does this really prove anything apart from there is other ppl that have the same OPINION as you and that you feel very strongly about this and have alot of free time? Any statistics can be obscured/skewed to help strengthen particular opinions.
Im not a rpker, i only kill rednames or KOS ppl. Its not a big deal, its fun and far more of my ingame time is spent PvEing with friends. But seriously why do ppl get so worked up over this? You get pked, u lose some time (maybe a doll) who cares? It a game, remember that.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Slake - Lost City wrote: »Does this really prove anything apart from there is other ppl that have the same OPINION as you and that you feel very strongly about this and have alot of free time? Any statistics can be obscured/skewed to help strengthen particular opinions.
Im not a rpker, i only kill rednames or KOS ppl. Its not a big deal, its fun and far more of my ingame time is spent PvEing with friends. But seriously why do ppl get so worked up over this? You get pked, u lose some time (maybe a doll) who cares? It a game, remember that.
Yes FUGWAD No.1? What's your point? b:chuckleb:angry<--NERD RAGE!!!0 -
I was attempting to discredit that wall of text with 2 links to other walls of text and also show that you may care an inordinate amount about rpking, maybe you didn't understand that. Keep posting behind an alt too, it makes u super awesome.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Slake - Lost City wrote: »I was attempting to discredit that wall of text with 2 links to other walls of text and also show that you may care an inordinate amount about rpking, maybe you didn't understand that. Keep posting behind an alt too, it makes u super awesome.
Thank you for proving that you don't have the intelligence to understand those studies Ms Fugwad No.1 b:thanks
P/s Thanks too for discrediting your own intelligence with that 2 posts. BRAVO!b:angry<--NERD RAGE!!!0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »Play on a PVE server.
No, really..... make a character on a PVE server if this is an issue.. since it will be an issue for the rest of your gaming life while on a PVP server.
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sigh... you win. its hard to argue with ppl that make no sense. GL with life nerdrage guy.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Slake - Lost City wrote: »sigh... you win. its hard to argue with ppl that make no sense. GL with life nerdrage guy.
My apologies Ms Slake if I did sound confrontational. I wasn't here to argue with you. My intention of posting those studies was for players to read and debate. It certainly wasn't aimed at you.
Many a times its always the higher level ones who pick on those 20-30 levels lower and then telling them to QQmoar knowing that they can't even defend themselves. Purpose? To show domination? Or is it just a missing chromosome or 2 that makes a person want to get his or her enjoyment out of someone's misery?
Sadly with the anonymity of the internet, people who are nice in real life turn into ogres once they get online. There are no consequences to face, no authority to draw the line and no law to uphold the sanity. What is it that turns nice people into raging sociopaths once they log in to a free for all pvp game?
Is it really just a game? Or is the game mimicking real life? Or real life mimicking the game?b:angry<--NERD RAGE!!!0 -
I agree with nerdraging, sorry slake, you are just incorrect. Think of it this way, Slake. A man walks into a bar and he orders a Gin and Tonic. The bartender says "Hey man, we do not have gin and tonic, we DO have Coke!"
So then the man gets angry and goes outside and hits a mailbox. Did the mailbox do anything to him? No!
OR did it?
The order form for the gin and tonic was sent, you guessed it, through the mail! So in fact, it WAS the mailboxes fault!
It's the same thing on a pvp server.0 -
i agree with nerdraging too sorry slake, maybe its you who needs to get out of the corner u've sat in for years on time and not try to be inside game scared because think u will get insulted with people b:laugh healers stupid slake think pk u everyone????? b:shutupb:laugh0
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Ah incorrect about what?
It only being a game?
Opinion aren't fact?
Statistics can be skewed to show anything?
That when u get pked that u only lose time/dolls and its a fun part of the game?
Those are the only points i think i have made. Are any of those incorrect?
edit: does anybody understand jbeao?
xipluv that is a perfect example of a situation that appears to be similar to the one u are trying to make a point about, but at the same time completely different.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Yea i agree with you fully xipluv it was completely the mailboxes fault... its just llike walking in the strit with the bad gurlz in the sid tring to do u pay them for bad things... it ur fault cuz ur be the mormonb:angry0
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Slake - Lost City wrote: »Ah incorrect about what?
It only being a game?
Opinion aren't fact?
Statistics can be skewed to show anything?
That when u get pked that u only lose time/dolls and its a fun part of the game?
Those are the only points i think i have made. Are any of thosse incorrect?
Yes, indeed every point that you brought up is irrelevant. Going back to my story about the mailbox. We have to look at it through the mailboxes point of view! Perhaps he DID send the order form, and it was the mailMAN who did not deliver it! But wait!! The bartender claimed that they had coke! so the coke order form went through! So clearly there is something wrong at the gin and tonic factory!!!!
The same can be said for pvp servers.0 -
I'm a whitename, mostly carebear... only gone red a few times... don't do a whole lot of pking either really. Being on a PvP server makes life a little more interesting. If you find it a nuisance, level up or re-roll PvE.
An interruption to a boring quest or mat-mining spree with some PvP, no matter who wins is always welcome. ;D
And, I can't really imagine being a blue named 8x. That would just seem weird. lolI post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Yea i agree with you fully xipluv it was completely the mailboxes fault... its just llike walking in the strit with the bad gurlz in the sid tring to do u pay them for bad things... it ur fault cuz ur be the mormonb:angry
yah...one teim i accidently the whole girl and then i had to leave the place bcause the tree fell through LOL then i had to go to my house and yeha...0 -
Seen a few of these threads lately, and one thing I have been thinking on. Why lvl 30? Why can't lvl 5's have the pleasure of PK'ing lvl 1's, or lvl 90's PK'ing lvl 1's for that matter? Why only allow PK over lvl 30? Having thought on this I have come to the answer, because there would never be any new players on a PvP server and it would eventually die.
Having PK only after lvl 30 means that people who don't really know what it means to be on a PvP server, feel, by the time they have reached lvl 30, that they have invested so much time and effort into the game that they don't want to start all over again so they persevere despite the ganking. of course WE know its really easy to get to lvl 30 once you know the trick to it, we have all done it before, but the newbies don't.
This indicates that the current PvP paradigm is ultimately flawed and PvP servers only exist due to artificial support and rules. take the lvl limit off and see how quickly the server dies, I dare the devs :-)0 -
Slake - Lost City wrote: »Ah incorrect about what?
It only being a game?
Opinion aren't fact?
Statistics can be skewed to show anything?
That when u get pked that u only lose time/dolls and its a fun part of the game?
Those are the only points i think i have made. Are any of thosse incorrect?
edit: does anybody understand jbeao?
xipluv that is a perfect example of a situation that appears to be similar to the one u are trying to make a point about, but at the same time completely different.
Slow down for a moment Slake. That player you pked may be a 14 year old kid who had to wash his Dad's car to get something extra on top of his allowance.
1 doll = 30cents.
10 dolls = 3 dollars.
From my experience and from what I have read and observed, a player from level 30 onwards has a chance of being pked up 10-30 times a day.
No dolls, there's a chance of equipment dropping or anything in the inventory. I know there are higher level players who do this to make money. Get the drops and sell them. Profit at the expense of another player's hard work. Newer players don't even stand a chance.
It certainly is not fun for the one being pked. As I've mentioned, what is it that makes people get their enjoyment out of someone's misery?b:angry<--NERD RAGE!!!0 -
Slake - Lost City wrote: »
edit: does anybody understand jbeao?
xipluv that is a perfect example of a situation that appears to be similar to the one u are trying to make a point about, but at the same time completely different.
yu tring to say i am unedicated?? new r u racist??? thus gin an toniq example is fairly strit to pointe maibe yu stop tlking aot yur bottom....b:shutup think yur all dit bcuz r high0 -
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yu tring to say i am unedicated?? new r u racist??? thus gin an toniq example is fairly strit to pointe maibe yu stop tlking aot yur bottom....b:shutup think yur all dit bcuz r highZOMGWTFNOWAI - Lost City wrote: »yah...one teim i accidently the whole girl and then i had to leave the place bcause the tree fell through LOL then i had to go to my house and yeha...Slake - Lost City wrote: »Ah incorrect about what?
It only being a game?
Opinion aren't fact?
Statistics can be skewed to show anything?
That when u get pked that u only lose time/dolls and its a fun part of the game?
Those are the only points i think i have made. Are any of those incorrect?
edit: does anybody understand jbeao?
xipluv that is a perfect example of a situation that appears to be similar to the one u are trying to make a point about, but at the same time completely different.
ferst of all, jb guy...you are correct....thay are hi LOLOL
and slak i stil donought uunderstand your reazonings, i mean if you tink bout it, the pvp pepleo signed ip to die all the time and stuff and they diy like everydai which is y i had to left the gam0 -
i lik juic of apple b:cute it good mi favrit in ****ry b:pleased0
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nerdraging wrote: »Slow down for a moment Slake. That player you pked may be a 14 year old kid who had to wash his Dad's car to get something extra on top of his allowance.
1 doll = 30cents.
10 dolls = 3 dollars.
From my experience and from what I have read and observed, a player from level 30 onwards has a chance of being pked up 10-30 times a day.
No dolls, there's a chance of equipment dropping or anything in the inventory. I know there are higher level players who do this to make money. Get the drops and sell them. Profit at the expense of another player's hard work. Newer players don't even stand a chance.
It certainly is not fun for the one being pked. As I've mentioned, what is it that makes people get their enjoyment out of someone's misery?
You don't need a doll if you're white. If you go red, buy a doll and lose it because someone killed you it's your own fault and should assume the consequences for your acts.
Or you can use other ways to prevent dropping which are free. A.K.A. Safety Lock.0 -
Xipluv - Lost City wrote: »I agree with nerdraging, sorry slake, you are just incorrect. Think of it this way, Slake. A man walks into a bar and he orders a Gin and Tonic. The bartender says "Hey man, we do not have gin and tonic, we DO have Coke!"
So then the man gets angry and goes outside and hits a mailbox. Did the mailbox do anything to him? No!
OR did it?
The order form for the gin and tonic was sent, you guessed it, through the mail! So in fact, it WAS the mailboxes fault!
It's the same thing on a pvp server.
He should have pked the waiter who messed up his order.
POOR POOR mailbox. b:laughb:angry<--NERD RAGE!!!0 -
Norgannon - Lost City wrote: »You don't need a doll if you're white. If you go red, buy a doll and lose it because someone killed you it's your own fault and should assume the consequences for your acts.
Or you can use other ways to prevent dropping which are free. A.K.A. Safety Lock.
norgannon, i tink you are slake's alt trying to agree wif urself lololololol, pvp is supar fal0 -
Honey ya'll shud know not be pkin when yall are doin yallz quests. I mean its seriously rude yall know what i mean? its not my fault yall decide to be complete asses and yall gather all ur friends and family who r level 90+ and kill us all. where i come from, that called discrimnaotory things yall know what i mean?? b:byb:cute0
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Norgannon - Lost City wrote: »You don't need a doll if you're white. If you go red, buy a doll and lose it because someone killed you it's your own fault and should assume the consequences for your acts.
Or you can use other ways to prevent dropping which are free. A.K.A. Safety Lock.
I personally have dropped something while white named and I have read horror stories of other players dropping their stuffs while white named too. Do you really trust the game system?
Safety lock with the shatter gear system in place now?
The percentage of dropping stuffs while white named and gear shattering may be low.
As the saying goes, $hit happensb:angry<--NERD RAGE!!!0 -
nerdraging wrote: »I personally have dropped something while white named and I have read horror stories of other players dropping their stuffs while white named too. Do you really trust the game system?
Safety lock with the shatter gear system in place now?
The percentage of dropping stuffs while white named and gear shattering may be low.
As the saying goes, $hit happens
Yeah, that's why I only wear npc gear.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
TY _Bloody_Fox_ for the sig ^_^
I think venomancers are a pretty cool guy, eh mances the venom and doesn't afraid of anything.0 -
ther this stori in my contry,
these girl walking scool and she get hit by a walking lion. The lion stop the car and do a flip. A yak sees this and come over to try wake the girl up. The lion eat the yak with 5 legs in his eye. The lion get **** runs and he die from being min to yak and girl
you see wit i min??? it same ting.. all peple nid stop friking oot0 -
ther this stori in my contry,
these girl walking scool and she get hit by a walking lion. The lion stop the car and do a flip. A yak sees this and come over to try wake the girl up. The lion eat the yak with 5 legs in his eye. The lion get **** runs and he die from being min to yak and girl
you see wit i min??? it same ting.. all peple nid stop friking oot
lolol, wow! we hav same stori here in Gaborone!
u must be fro dere to, no?
whatch district?0 -
This topic is full of alts with 1 or 2 posts.
Lots of Caps Lock only characters in Lost City, and lvl 1 too.0 -
ZOMGWTFNOWAI - Lost City wrote: »lolol, wow! we hav same stori here in Gaborone!
u must be fro dere to, no?
whatch district?
lol, i used to live there!0
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