Mini Combining Shards Guide

Mrsurine - Sanctuary
Mrsurine - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
edited December 2010 in Dungeons & Tactics
I'm sorry if a guide like this has already been made. I looked but could not find one so I decided I should probably make one. b:victory

I'm only doing this guide up to Average Shards. I might add onto it later.

Where can I combine shards?
Any Jewelcraftsmen. (An NPC you can find in every big city and most littler ones)

Why combine shards?
Because its cheaper than buying them. (unless you find a generous catshop of course) I'll explain more below.

Some basic stuff about gems and shards(if you put the shard into a weapon it increases attack, and in armor it increases defence. If i only list one affect gems have, it means there is only one):

Garnet: Increases physical attack or defence
Sapphire: Increases magic attack or defence
Turquoise: Increases mana
Citrine: Increases hit points
Amber: Increases accuracy or evasion
Alabaster: Increases metal attack or defence
Aquamarine: Increases wood attack or defence
Amethyst: Increases water attack or defence
Ruby: Increases fire attack or defence
Topaz: Increases earth attack or defence

Now time for the actual combining guide :D

The level of shards I'll be dealing with are (in order)......
Shabby
Rough
Blemished
Common
Average

TIME FOR THE MATH ON HOW COMBINING SHARDS IS CHEAPER THAN BUYING :D

You can buy shabby shards from any merchant for 530coins

You need 3 shabby shards to make a rough=1590coins(hm looks cheaper already for those people that buy your shards from catshops for crazy stone :P)

You need 9 shabby shards to make a blemished=4770coins

You need 27 shabby shards to make a common=14310coins

You need 108 shabby shards to make an average=57240coins (which is cheaper than buying them from the jewelcrafstmen for 60k)

THEREFORE: Combining shards is cheaper than buying (usually). Unless you do not feel like spending, I'll say about a minute or two to combine them. Sorry you had to read this. :P
Yatta!

Also, here's some numbers for you, for the total numbers of shabbies for each grade:
Grade:Amount:Amount:Cost
G2: 3^1 (3) (1,590)
G3: 3^2 (9) (4,770)
G4: 3^3 (27) (14,310)
G5: 4*(3^3) (108) (57,240)
G6:(4^2)*(3^3) (432) (228.960)
G7:(4^3)*(3^3) (1,728) (915,840)
G8:5*(4^3)*(3^3) (8,640) (4,579,200)
G9:(5^2)*(4^3)*(3^3) (43,200) (22,896,000)
G10:(5^3)*(4^3)*(3^3) (216,000) (114,480,000)
G11:6*(5^3)*(4^3)*(3^3) (1,296,000) (686,880,000)
G12:(6^2)*(5^3)*(4^3)*(3^3) (7,776,000) (4,121,280,000)

As you can see, 1-4 is simply 3^(G-1), 5-7 is 4^(G-4)*27, 8-10 is 5^(G-7)*1728 and 11-12 is 6^(G-10)*216000

And the above math thanks to Olba! :D
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  • Rikka - Harshlands
    Rikka - Harshlands Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    This is a pretty good guide, thanks for posting it up.
  • Mrsurine - Sanctuary
    Mrsurine - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Thank you :D and no problemo b:victory
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  • Tazi - Heavens Tear
    Tazi - Heavens Tear Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    thx. this is exactly what I was looking for. :)
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  • Ichimokusan - Sanctuary
    Ichimokusan - Sanctuary Posts: 156 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Great guide!
  • Chobsi - Heavens Tear
    Chobsi - Heavens Tear Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I didn't know you could even do this you opened me up to a whole new world b:thanks
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  • TameThat - Sanctuary
    TameThat - Sanctuary Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Your missing like half of the shard level list ... there is Beautifull, Flawless, Immaculate, Perfect, Incomparable and Gem shard too.

    There is also some end-game shard that gives bonus attack level and defence level.

    Also you could add that past level 5 shard, it's usually cheaper to buy them off the other player.
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  • Mrsurine - Sanctuary
    Mrsurine - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Your missing like half of the shard level list ... there is Beautifull, Flawless, Immaculate, Perfect, Incomparable and Gem shard too.

    There is also some end-game shard that gives bonus attack level and defence level.

    Also you could add that past level 5 shard, it's usually cheaper to buy them off the other player.

    Well first. I said I was only going to name a few. And when I made this guide. (yes two months ago, I took a break and come back and noticed there were cheaper.) Shards were way more expensive. I couldn't find someone who would sell them cheaper.
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  • RageMachine - Dreamweaver
    RageMachine - Dreamweaver Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    nice guide it'll help ppl save money by combining their own shards
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  • Mrsurine - Sanctuary
    Mrsurine - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Thanks for reading guys! I'm glad I was able to help some people!
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  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Um, using "g" in place of "coin" is rather misleading.
    If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.

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  • Mrsurine - Sanctuary
    Mrsurine - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Um, using "g" in place of "coin" is rather misleading.

    Oh sorry. I've played many mmorpgs before this one. It's just a bit of a habbit. I'll change it just for you. b:pleased
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  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Oh sorry. I've played many mmorpgs before this one. It's just a bit of a habbit. I'll change it just for you. b:pleased

    Yatta!

    Also, here's some numbers for you, for the total numbers of shabbies for each grade:
    Grade:Amount:Amount:Cost
    G2: 3^1 (3) (1,590)
    G3: 3^2 (9) (4,770)
    G4: 3^3 (27) (14,310)
    G5: 4*(3^3) (108) (57,240)
    G6:(4^2)*(3^3) (432) (228.960)
    G7:(4^3)*(3^3) (1,728) (915,840)
    G8:5*(4^3)*(3^3) (8,640) (4,579,200)
    G9:(5^2)*(4^3)*(3^3) (43,200) (22,896,000)
    G10:(5^3)*(4^3)*(3^3) (216,000) (114,480,000)
    G11:6*(5^3)*(4^3)*(3^3) (1,296,000) (686,880,000)
    G12:(6^2)*(5^3)*(4^3)*(3^3) (7,776,000) (4,121,280,000)

    As you can see, 1-4 is simply 3^(G-1), 5-7 is 4^(G-4)*27, 8-10 is 5^(G-7)*1728 and 11-12 is 6^(G-10)*216000
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  • Mrsurine - Sanctuary
    Mrsurine - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Yatta!

    Also, here's some numbers for you, for the total numbers of shabbies for each grade:
    Grade:Amount:Amount:Cost
    G2: 3^1 (3) (1,590)
    G3: 3^2 (9) (4,770)
    G4: 3^3 (27) (14,310)
    G5: 4*(3^3) (108) (57,240)
    G6:(4^2)*(3^3) (432) (228.960)
    G7:(4^3)*(3^3) (1,728) (915,840)
    G8:5*(4^3)*(3^3) (8,640) (4,579,200)
    G9:(5^2)*(4^3)*(3^3) (43,200) (22,896,000)
    G10:(5^3)*(4^3)*(3^3) (216,000) (114,480,000)
    G11:6*(5^3)*(4^3)*(3^3) (1,296,000) (686,880,000)
    G12:(6^2)*(5^3)*(4^3)*(3^3) (7,776,000) (4,121,280,000)

    As you can see, 1-4 is simply 3^(G-1), 5-7 is 4^(G-4)*27, 8-10 is 5^(G-7)*1728 and 11-12 is 6^(G-10)*216000

    Those are great numbers. I'll add it onto my guide. :D
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  • Sherekahn - Lost City
    Sherekahn - Lost City Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    another important thing..

    while shabby shards can be bought from any merchant, average shards can be bought (intact without combining anything) from the jewelcraftsman

    more importantly, average shards are just barely cheaper to buy from the jewelcraftsman than they would be to buy all shabby shards & combine to make an average. this is something most definetely worth considering when spending tons to attain those pricey higher lvl shards - average shards cost 60,000 coin apiece when bought from the jewelcraftsman
  • Mrsurine - Sanctuary
    Mrsurine - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    another important thing..

    while shabby shards can be bought from any merchant, average shards can be bought (intact without combining anything) from the jewelcraftsman

    more importantly, average shards are just barely cheaper to buy from the jewelcraftsman than they would be to buy all shabby shards & combine to make an average. this is something most definetely worth considering when spending tons to attain those pricey higher lvl shards - average shards cost 60,000 coin apiece when bought from the jewelcraftsman

    Actually if you read. if you combine your own shards it's 57,240. And say if you're making the higher lvl shards. If you are making an Beautiful shard it costs 228,960 if you combine them. But if you buy average stones from the Jewlecraftsmen and combine those to make an Beautiful it will cost 240,000. You save 11,040.
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  • Club_pure - Heavens Tear
    Club_pure - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I was looking for something like this. Great guide.
  • Mrsurine - Sanctuary
    Mrsurine - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I'm glad I was able to help so many people. I didn't think this guide would be this helpful. :D
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  • Zetarana - Heavens Tear
    Zetarana - Heavens Tear Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I'm glad I was able to help so many people. I didn't think this guide would be this helpful. :D

    Guides like this are ALWAYS Helpful.

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  • QTKyuubi - Sanctuary
    QTKyuubi - Sanctuary Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    This is really great b:victory

    Any chance of finding out estimated time to create as well? Would be interesting, and useful for day planning, to see how many hours some of the higher lvl shards take to make b:chuckle

    Thank you for the guide b:kiss
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  • Mrsurine - Sanctuary
    Mrsurine - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Guides like this are ALWAYS Helpful.

    TYVM
    Aww. Now I feel special. :P
    This is really great b:victory

    Any chance of finding out estimated time to create as well? Would be interesting, and useful for day planning, to see how many hours some of the higher lvl shards take to make b:chuckle

    Thank you for the guide b:kiss

    Hmm...I should time it. I'll add that ASAP. :D
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  • Soltarr - Sanctuary
    Soltarr - Sanctuary Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Any chance of finding out estimated time to create as well?
    Just take a look on pwdatabase

    it'll tell you for any given shard how long it takes to combine from any lower level - but starting from level 1 shards, you'd have:


    lvl 2 - 3 shards - 1.590 coin - 1 sec
    lvl 3 - 9 shards - 4.770 coin - 4 sec
    lvl 4 - 27 shards - 14.310 coin - 13 sec
    lvl 5 - 108 shards - 57.240 coin - 53 sec
    lvl 6 - 432 shards - 228.960 coin - 3min. 33sec
    lvl 7 - 1.728 shards - 915.840 coin - 14min. 13sec
    lvl 8 - 8.640 shards - 4.579.200 coin - 1H 11min. 6sec
    lvl 9 - 43.200 shards - 22.896.000 coin - 5H 55min. 31sec
    lvl 10 - 216.000 shards - 114.480.000 coin - 29H 37min. 36sec
    lvl 11 - 1.296.000 shards - 686.880.000 coin - 7 days 9H 45min. 37sec
    lvl 12 - 7.776.000 shards - 4.121.280.000 coin - 44 days 10H 33min. 43sec
  • Mrsurine - Sanctuary
    Mrsurine - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Just take a look on pwdatabase

    it'll tell you for any given shard how long it takes to combine from any lower level - but starting from level 1 shards, you'd have:


    lvl 2 - 3 shards - 1.590 coin - 1 sec
    lvl 3 - 9 shards - 4.770 coin - 4 sec
    lvl 4 - 27 shards - 14.310 coin - 13 sec
    lvl 5 - 108 shards - 57.240 coin - 53 sec
    lvl 6 - 432 shards - 228.960 coin - 3min. 33sec
    lvl 7 - 1.728 shards - 915.840 coin - 14min. 13sec
    lvl 8 - 8.640 shards - 4.579.200 coin - 1H 11min. 6sec
    lvl 9 - 43.200 shards - 22.896.000 coin - 5H 55min. 31sec
    lvl 10 - 216.000 shards - 114.480.000 coin - 29H 37min. 36sec
    lvl 11 - 1.296.000 shards - 686.880.000 coin - 7 days 9H 45min. 37sec
    lvl 12 - 7.776.000 shards - 4.121.280.000 coin - 44 days 10H 33min. 43sec

    44 days?! o.O That seems a bit long.
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  • Sangodoc - Dreamweaver
    Sangodoc - Dreamweaver Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    44 days?! o.O That seems a bit long.
    That's nothing compared to the crafting time for the Diamond of Dragon:
    Level Number of pcs Price Time
    13 3 x 1 sec.
    12 18 x 4 sec.
    11 108 x 22 sec.
    10 648 x 2min. 10sec.
    9 3.240 x 12min. 58sec.
    8 16.200 x 1H 6min. 58sec.
    7 81.000 x 5H 36min. 58sec.
    6 324.000 x 28H 6min. 58sec.
    5 1.296.000 77.760.000.000 4 days 22H 6min. 58sec.
    4 5.184.000 x 19 days 22H 6min. 58sec.
    3 15.552.000 x 79 days 22H 6min. 58sec.
    2 46.656.000 x 259 days 22H 6min. 58sec.
    1 139.968.000 74.183.040.000 799 days 22H 6min. 58sec.
    In other words, if you'd started crafting it from level 1 shards when the game was first released, you'd be about a third of the way done now. b:shocked
  • Mrsurine - Sanctuary
    Mrsurine - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Where did you get the 799days? According to Soltarr 44days to make the lvl 12 shard. And according to the one you quoted..it says 259days. That seems a bit off. :/
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  • Sangodoc - Dreamweaver
    Sangodoc - Dreamweaver Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Uh... Did you notice that it requires 18 times more level 1 shards?

    Besides, it's not my math, it's the PWIDB's math.
  • Mrsurine - Sanctuary
    Mrsurine - Sanctuary Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Um...Did you notice what I wrote? I was compareing the two different quotes of the PWIDB. They're different. And one seems for logical than the other one.
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  • sheila#4521
    sheila#4521 Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    So how many Sabby Garnet will I need to make a Garnet Gem then?