What's a good attack for a cleric to 1hit someone?

Bombastic - Harshlands
Bombastic - Harshlands Posts: 3 Arc User
edited August 2009 in Cleric
i keep seeing ppl one hit by red clerics. What attack are they using...my alt cleric would appreciate itb:laugh
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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Tempest. or double sparked razor feathers.
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  • Enina - Heavens Tear
    Enina - Heavens Tear Posts: 263 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Depending on the level, anything will work, really. Spark (or double/triple spark) eruption + almost any skill will result in a dead person. For coup de grace, the cleric can have thrown a debuff at their enemy to reduce magic/physical defence; allowing further damage to be dealt.

    But, overall, Tempest / Razor Feathers are considered the best nukes due to very high magic/physical damage respectively.
  • Slake - Lost City
    Slake - Lost City Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Even on magic classes the raw dmg of a sparked tempest is ouchies.
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  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Bombastic - Harshlands wrote: »
    i keep seeing ppl one hit by red clerics. What attack are they using...my alt cleric would appreciate itb:laugh

    i think its too low lvl to pk properly if u dont know that b:chuckle
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  • Luxado_Ranks - Harshlands
    Luxado_Ranks - Harshlands Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    That skill is tempest. The cleric ultimate and 3rd strongest skill in the game. Sparked (simple, double or hell/sage) Razor feathers is good against arcanes before lvl 90. After that their HP and physical resistence is off the scale.
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Luxado_Ranks - Harshlands wrote: »
    That skill is tempest. The cleric ultimate and 3rd strongest skill in the game. Sparked (simple, double or hell/sage) Razor feathers is good against arcanes before lvl 90. After that their HP and physical resistence is off the scale.

    eh
    5th strongest skill in the game
    1) Black Ice Dragon Strike
    2) Blade Tempest
    3) Mountain Seize
    4) Sword ulti b:shocked
    5) tempest

    :p
    im LA and the sword ulti hurts more than a tempest b:surrender

    and by red do you mean demon spark?
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Luxado_Ranks - Harshlands
    Luxado_Ranks - Harshlands Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    eh
    5th strongest skill in the game
    1) Black Ice Dragon Strike
    2) Blade Tempest
    3) Mountain Seize
    4) Sword ulti b:shocked
    5) tempest

    :p
    im LA and the sword ulti hurts more than a tempest b:surrender

    and by red do you mean demon spark?

    Wrong there wizard boy:

    1.Perdition (don't argue)
    2.Black Ice Dragon
    3.Tempest-Mountain Seize (kinda equal-500% weapon power MS but Tempest does 13500 and MS only 12100. Also MS is used rarely because of Black dragon superiority.)
    4.Sword ultimate.
    5.Blade tempest(only 200% weapon power and 6200 bonus attack)
    There fixed it for ya.b:byeb:shutup
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  • Bagoly_ - Sanctuary
    Bagoly_ - Sanctuary Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    eh
    5th strongest skill in the game
    1) Black Ice Dragon Strike
    2) Blade Tempest
    3) Mountain Seize
    4) Sword ulti b:shocked
    5) tempest

    :p
    im LA and the sword ulti hurts more than a tempest b:surrender

    Are you sure of the list above?

    Mountain's Seize is base magic attack plus 500% of weapon damage plus
    8400.4; Tempest is base magic damage plus 400% of weapon damage plus 9337.1 at lvl 10. The difference is 100% of weapon damage -937. At lvl 86 weapon damage is ~800. The overall damage is nearly the same. The stun that comes with Mountain's Seize hurts a lot so yeah that skill is maybe more annoying.

    Myriad Sword Stance does significantly less damage than Tempest. It hurts more becouse usually it's more leveled (Most of us have underleveled Tempest) and a physical skill. Ask a barb or a bm about tempest.

    EDIT:
    Luxado_Ranks - Harshlands wrote: »
    Blade tempest(only 200% weapon power and 6200 bonus attack)
    both physical and Fire damage equal
    to base magic damage plus 200% of weapon damage plus 3860.4
  • ChronicDose - Harshlands
    ChronicDose - Harshlands Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Well it could be either tempest...which does do one shots...

    EDIT: Haha its very true to whoever said that Tempest can even kill Robe users. I just owned a 79 robe cleric 4 times in a row, last time I tried out the old fashion, single spark - IH - Tempest - > Extreme poison..
    Hit for 4.6k dmg hahha, I would assume/hope he had a 68-72% reduction in Metal dmg...since I am LA and have 63% now..


    Or...debuff -> (Sparked-Advance sparked) -> Wield thunder - Extreme poison
    Same thing with cyclone on a crit.

    Comparing Tempest to sparked Razor feathers isnt good sicne they are for different application..

    Physical Attack Spells - Razor Feathers and Plume - Use against ROBES, and as maybe a final blow against LA...kinda of useless most of the time against HA.

    Magic Attack Spells - Cyclone - Wield Thunder -Tempest - Use against LA and HA..
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  • King_Solomon - Heavens Tear
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,341 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Luxado_Ranks - Harshlands wrote: »

    1.Black Ice Dragon
    2.Mountain Seize (not used often due to the long channel)
    3.Blade tempest(+200% magic damage and 6200 bonus attack as magic and +200% magic damage +6200 as physical damage)
    4.Perdition (yes it hits hard when it happens to hit)
    5.Tempest
    6. Parasitic nova
    7. Barrage of Arrows
    8. Myriad Sword Stance (lower than barrage due to base damage)
    9. all other BM ultimates.

    There fixed it for ya.b:byeb:shutup

    what a noob troll. perhaps you learn something from the edited quote.
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  • Luxado_Ranks - Harshlands
    Luxado_Ranks - Harshlands Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    what a noob troll. perhaps you learn something from the edited quote.

    God your dumb as hell. Not even worth the effort to explain why your post failed. Ktnxbye
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    depends on the lv of the opponent. I tried 1 shotting my same lvl BM friend but most times it leaves a little bit of HP left. I tried this with debuff, poison, double spark and tempest. I guess maybe if it crits its another story (full mag build)
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Slake - Lost City wrote: »
    Even on magic classes the raw dmg of a sparked tempest is ouchies.

    I really starting to like it.It is just to build up the 2 sparks that take so long.
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  • Q - Dreamweaver
    Q - Dreamweaver Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    usually i just double spark and tempest if I want to 1 hit someone b:laugh
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    luxado_ranks - Harshlands wrote: »
    wrong There Wizard Boy:

    1.perdition (don't Argue)
    2.black Ice Dragon
    3.tempest-mountain Seize (kinda Equal-500% Weapon Power Ms But Tempest Does 13500 And Ms Only 12100. Also Ms Is Used Rarely Because Of Black Dragon Superiority.)
    4.sword Ultimate.
    5.blade Tempest(only 200% Weapon Power And 6200 Bonus Attack)
    There Fixed It For Ya.b:byeb:shutup

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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    eh
    5th strongest skill in the game
    1) Black Ice Dragon Strike
    2) Blade Tempest
    3) Mountain Seize
    4) Sword ulti b:shocked
    5) tempest

    :p
    im LA and the sword ulti hurts more than a tempest b:surrender

    and by red do you mean demon spark?

    clueless?

    1. perdition
    2. pyro tempest
    3. cryonite dragon
    4. galactic storm
    5. mountain press
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    eh
    5th strongest skill in the game
    1) Black Ice Dragon Strike
    2) Blade Tempest
    3) Mountain Seize
    4) Sword ulti b:shocked
    5) tempest

    :p
    im LA and the sword ulti hurts more than a tempest b:surrender

    and by red do you mean demon spark?

    Those aren't all cleric attacks 1,2,3, and 4 only 5.I will let Deceptistar or Alyyy clear this up.
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  • FatesBlood - Heavens Tear
    FatesBlood - Heavens Tear Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    clueless?

    1. perdition
    2. pyro tempest
    3. cryonite dragon
    4. galactic storm
    5. mountain press

    hmm you msut be a pwi maya or english player anyways wats Galactic storm? lol also the dragon is the second strongest ult i think mine does 10k 12k if critic
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Luxado_Ranks - Harshlands wrote: »
    Wrong there wizard boy:

    1.Perdition (don't argue)
    2.Black Ice Dragon
    3.Tempest-Mountain Seize (kinda equal-500% weapon power MS but Tempest does 13500 and MS only 12100. Also MS is used rarely because of Black dragon superiority.)
    4.Sword ultimate.
    5.Blade tempest(only 200% weapon power and 6200 bonus attack)
    There fixed it for ya.b:byeb:shutup
    perdition tickles :P
    Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    clueless?

    1. perdition
    2. pyro tempest
    3. cryonite dragon
    4. galactic storm
    5. mountain press

    perdition isnt all that bad
    i lived perditions not too hard
    black ice dragon strike > blade tempest :P


    i might edit my list a bit
    1. Black Ice Dragon Strike
    2. Blade Tempest
    3. Mountain Seize
    4. sword ulti/barrage
    5. tempest

    wizards 59 skills are the top 3 aoes in game :P

    and to the lvl 9 cleric guy
    dont knock blade tempest
    or you end up like the cleric in my sig
    who was the same level as me when that happened
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Jette - Lost City
    Jette - Lost City Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    perdition tickles :P


    perdition isnt all that bad
    i lived perditions not too hard
    black ice dragon strike > blade tempest :P


    i might edit my list a bit
    1. Black Ice Dragon Strike
    2. Blade Tempest
    3. Mountain Seize
    4. sword ulti/barrage
    5. tempest

    wizards 59 skills are the top 3 aoes in game :P

    and to the lvl 9 cleric guy
    dont knock blade tempest
    or you end up like the cleric in my sig
    who was the same level as me when that happened

    I don't know about your list...I was checking the stats and if we are going by end game (demon or sage versions of the ultimate)

    I would have to rank it as

    1. Black Ice Dragon Strike
    2. Mountain Seize
    3. Tempest
    4. Myriad Sword Dance
    5. Perdition

    this is based off etacomb.net's stats that they have...and it seems pretty clear....personally stats wise I don't see how you could have myriad and barrage over it since the stats show a major difference at the end game lvl....grant it you have to take in account armor, weapon, and build which everyone's are generally different....wizards still hit the hardest, but tempest stats wise is the 3rd strongest skill in the game...at least according to the stats provived by etacomb.net xD
  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    perdition doesn't hurt if the tank isn't built for it. taste a perdition from a 17k(without the genie skill) hp tank and tell me it tickles

    pyro tempest **** dragon. the only time i can say dragon hits higher is if a wr has alter marrow on

    mountain press is weak, it's not mean to kill. it has a 6s stun, which is a big threat, but the doom itself isn't going to kill

    any wr doom and especially archer zhen is not some overwhelmingly powerful skill. i can't even see why you consider those over the hardest hitting element in the game.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Jette - Lost City wrote: »
    I don't know about your list...I was checking the stats and if we are going by end game (demon or sage versions of the ultimate)

    I would have to rank it as

    1. Black Ice Dragon Strike
    2. Mountain Seize
    3. Tempest
    4. Myriad Sword Dance
    5. Perdition

    this is based off etacomb.net's stats that they have...and it seems pretty clear....personally stats wise I don't see how you could have myriad and barrage over it since the stats show a major difference at the end game lvl....grant it you have to take in account armor, weapon, and build which everyone's are generally different....wizards still hit the hardest, but tempest stats wise is the 3rd strongest skill in the game...at least according to the stats provived by etacomb.net xD
    you do know blade tempest takes double the stats right?
    its 400% of weapon damage and 12k damage
    Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    perdition doesn't hurt if the tank isn't built for it. taste a perdition from a 17k(without the genie skill) hp tank and tell me it tickles

    pyro tempest **** dragon. the only time i can say dragon hits higher is if a wr has alter marrow on

    mountain press is weak, it's not mean to kill. it has a 6s stun, which is a big threat, but the doom itself isn't going to kill

    any wr doom and especially archer zhen is not some overwhelmingly powerful skill. i can't even see why you consider those over the hardest hitting element in the game.

    im guessing you never played wiz
    blade tempest doesnt hurt heavy classes :P
    blade tempest is only handy on arcane/light armor which im guessing why you put it on your list because most clerics are arcane ;P

    Have you TW before? Archer zhen is devastating in TW and sword BM ult hits pretty hard, harder than any perdition has yet to hit me :P

    1. Black Ice Dragon Strike
    2. Blade Tempest
    3. Mountain Seize
    4. sword ulti/barrage
    5. tempest
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    perdition tickles :P


    perdition isnt all that bad
    i lived perditions not too hard
    black ice dragon strike > blade tempest :P


    i might edit my list a bit
    1. Black Ice Dragon Strike
    2. Blade Tempest
    3. Mountain Seize
    4. sword ulti/barrage
    5. tempest

    wizards 59 skills are the top 3 aoes in game :P

    and to the lvl 9 cleric guy
    dont knock blade tempest
    or you end up like the cleric in my sig
    who was the same level as me when that happened

    Why are you posting wizards skill in this forum as the question?What is good attack skill for a cleric you are derailing this thread by taking it off topic which is against most forums rules.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Why are you posting wizards skill in this forum as the question?What is good attack skill for a cleric you are derailing this thread by taking it off topic which is against most forums rules.

    fine :P
    best skill to one shot a person as a cleric
    triple spark > wield thunder on heavy armor and light armor
    triple spark > plume shot with ex poison or whatever damage amp for arcanes

    dont forget to debuff

    happy now?
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    maybe you've never tried it, but on my mage, my pyro tempest hits a good 7k on heavy armour. whereas, a warrior smart enough to use mdef accessories, dragon only hits 4-5k.

    no warrior in any given time or place(except my wife, ofc) has beat my mage. they don't hurt. at all. i can tank anything but fist and lucky for you pwi newbs nobody likes fist, so wr are nothing.

    ea zhen is nothing but a big flashy neon sign saying "Stun me". and so it shall be. it hits me maybe 3k crits at the most, which is a lot less any mg or ep doom.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    maybe you've never tried it, but on my mage, my pyro tempest hits a good 7k on heavy armour. whereas, a warrior smart enough to use mdef accessories, dragon only hits 4-5k.

    no warrior in any given time or place(except my wife, ofc) has beat my mage. they don't hurt. at all. i can tank anything but fist and lucky for you pwi newbs nobody likes fist, so wr are nothing.

    ea zhen is nothing but a big flashy neon sign saying "Stun me". and so it shall be. it hits me maybe 3k crits at the most, which is a lot less any mg or ep doom.

    you must be hitting some fail BMs than
    with my dragon i can easily hit for 4k without crit or debuffs add in a ex poison, single spark or frenzy and BAM! one shot :P
    you are doing something wrong imo :P

    blade tempest is not good for HA classes, oh wait maybe you are fighting LA BMs :P

    meh wait
    you are talking about BMs who max their magic marrow, most BMs leave it at 5 :P
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    i'm actually talking about pyro tempest vs. a wr with +12 mdef accessories b:bye
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i'm actually talking about pyro tempest vs. a wr with +12 mdef accessories b:bye

    i still doubt blade tempest is the answer. My BM friend has like insane pdef and he is only 7x my BT does nothing to him but my water dragon is a different story. Even with mdef accessories, magic hits harder than half magic half phys.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    You might want to discuss this more in this forum as you are losing me.

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/forumdisplay.php?f=10
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    LOL, soz about that
    :P
    but ya
    triple spark then wield thunder/plume shot w/e
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze

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