TT drops messed up?

TheGoliath - Heavens Tear wrote: »

said higher charm cost not higher charm waste silly wolf

oh yeah, sorry,i misread.

Two unsubbed TT1-3 runs last night:

1st Run:
- Chin - 2 Chin's Plates, Mirages
- Drum - Mirages

2nd Run:
- 1 Apocalypse Page from one of those easy burning mobs (didn't know they dropped pages...)
- Chin - 3 Chin's Plate, Mirages
- Drum - 3 War Drums, Mirages

Im a bit upset about this actually.

i just turned my veno 68, and was away for 2 weeks after. I come back and TT has become a nigthmare. Some times I dont even make half the money of a US (single mode).

Last 2 runs in 1-2 (yes 1-2 Chein is dropping nothing but Perfect stones for me)...

3Perfect stones 1 mirage and some skulls

2 perfect stones 1 mirage and some skulls

I think they severly nerfed it, too many venos trying to buy Hercs with incame cash (like me). Guess they would rather we all just drop 150+ dollars on it.


At this rate hercs have to cost nearly 200 bucks right?

Im not paying that.

I spend about 20 dollors about every 3 to 4 weeks. I know its not alot, and since things have gotten totally strange lately, I havent bothered to buy any gold at all. I wont be any time soon either, cause its shaping up to be a short lived game at this point.

I hope PW realizes that while the superflux they are enjoying from thier "promotions" temporarly boosts sales; drastic changes to the game boost sales, the long time payers like me are going to leave.

When this happens, no one is gonna buy stuff if theres only 100 or so people per server. Even if i wasnt spending any cash, the fact that im there, along with thousands of others not spending cash, is an impetious for others with money to want to stay and spend money.

Meh...since Genies have basically stopped Ach (25 min. to do CS now) This may be the straw that makes me leave...


Ever notice that life eventually turns and bites the **** of the very greedy?

MissEva - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I think they severly nerfed it, too many venos trying to buy Hercs with incame cash (like me). Guess they would rather we all just drop 150+ dollars on it.

I doubt they care how you obtain it. Whether you buy it or someone else buys it, it's 187 gold (average) of demand. Gold from the trader doesn't pop out of nowhere, it's brought in because someone paid for it. If anything, they would rather have gold accessible for everyone through ingame coin, the reason for this, is that if it's accessible with some difficulty, people are more willing to look at boutique items, and somehow obtain gold in order to purchase it which brings them more money.

Maybe they nerfed it because they've added major demands for chi stones with gear repairs and genies, while lowering the supply by making mats to use on tradeskills harder to get (higher demand on them for wines) and at the same time, wanted there to be more of a strain on mirage stones since 1-1 is the most accessible and likely most done TT, remember when they changed it they also added warsong which needs 12 mirage.

MissEva - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I spend about 20 dollors about every 3 to 4 weeks. I know its not alot, and since things have gotten totally strange lately, I havent bothered to buy any gold at all. I wont be any time soon either, cause its shaping up to be a short lived game at this point.

IMHO there really isnt any reason why you should put more money in the game mounthly

Thats the average you pay in a P2P to have access to all the contents.

I think the economical genies at PWE havent undestood some of the economics 101

Is it best to gain 1000 * 50 gold every 2 - 3 weeks witrh temporary sales, boost sales ?

or 4000 * 1 gold every day ?

you have 2 hours, i ll get your copies at the end.

Brael - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Answer: Find a way to get both.

there is a say in france=

You cant have the butter, the gold for the butter and the farmers daughter's A$$

(meaning .. greediness does get you nothing)

Brael - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I doubt they care how you obtain it. Whether you buy it or someone else buys it, it's 187 gold (average) of demand. Gold from the trader doesn't pop out of nowhere, it's brought in because someone paid for it. If anything, they would rather have gold accessible for everyone through ingame coin, the reason for this, is that if it's accessible with some difficulty, people are more willing to look at boutique items, and somehow obtain gold in order to purchase it which brings them more money.

Maybe they nerfed it because they've added major demands for chi stones with gear repairs and genies, while lowering the supply by making mats to use on tradeskills harder to get (higher demand on them for wines) and at the same time, wanted there to be more of a strain on mirage stones since 1-1 is the most accessible and likely most done TT, remember when they changed it they also added warsong which needs 12 mirage.

yap thats it, they dont care if u buy it with coin or $ if u buy feathers u buy chash shop itmes.
each time i buy hp charm / dolls / exp scolls with coins, they make $$.

So... TT pays less AND is more exspensive to run now? (charm costs)

yeah 3-1 already had horrible drop rates for beast armors and now its worse

Yesterday I got 50 mirages from killing Twilight Minister:Doom in 3-3 b:laugh

Last nights results:

TT60, solo: 2 edges, 3 mirages. (Small pile of skeleton bits)

TT60, squad (That is 1-1, hard mode): 3 edges, 4 mirages, 3 drums, about a thousand skeleton bits, and a partridge in a pear tree.

Oh, and we beat up drummer boy even after half the squad, including our big cleric, dropped. Which was nice.


So, since that's, um, my second and third visits - how does that compare to usual, and to now?