Usefullness of a BM?

rhapsodus
rhapsodus Posts: 0 Arc User
edited August 2009 in Blademaster
I've been reading through forums for quite a while, and I can't seem to find an area where BMs REALLY shine. Like for example, barbs are designated tanks while clerics are designated healers. Mages rock hard in TW (i think ?_?) and archers are awesome at PVP. forgive me if those generalizations are wrong, im new. but my question is, is there an area where BMs really shine? or are we just a versatile class that can kind of do everything, but are masters at none?
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  • Chrysanthos - Heavens Tear
    Chrysanthos - Heavens Tear Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    rhapsodus wrote: »
    I've been reading through forums for quite a while, and I can't seem to find an area where BMs REALLY shine. Like for example, barbs are designated tanks while clerics are designated healers. Mages rock hard in TW (i think ?_?) and archers are awesome at PVP. forgive me if those generalizations are wrong, im new. but my question is, is there an area where BMs really shine? or are we just a versatile class that can kind of do everything, but are masters at none?

    This, exactly.
  • SultryShade - Dreamweaver
    SultryShade - Dreamweaver Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Technically its called being a jack of all trades XD. But BMs are the best stunners in the game, and keeping people stunlocked can be devastating. Also I happened to notice you only mentioned archers and mages in pvp situations, they can be used outside of pvp too...with that BMs have one of the highest DPSes in the game.
    I will not hesitate to beat you over the head with your own stupidity.

    Yes I am a hypocrite.
  • Granrey - Sanctuary
    Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    For being Jack of all trades, we are the mob control unit of the game.

    BM can help to increase the damage the squad is doing to mobs or boss as well as reducing the damage the boss or mobs are doing on squad.


    There are many ways to do this by stunning, cancelling, debuff mobs, buffing squad, knocking back, ect.
  • Amarta - Sanctuary
    Amarta - Sanctuary Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    in other words, IF YOU LIKE DOING CRAPLOADS OF WORK WHILE GETTING ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT FROM ANY OTHER CLASS, roll a BM.
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  • rhapsodus
    rhapsodus Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Amarta - Sanctuary wrote: »
    in other words, IF YOU LIKE DOING CRAPLOADS OF WORK WHILE GETTING ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT FROM ANY OTHER CLASS, roll a BM.

    sounds like my type of char b:laugh

    thanks for all the replies.
  • Soujiro_Z - Sanctuary
    Soujiro_Z - Sanctuary Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    i have killed clerics lvl 68, wizards lvl 66, archers lvl 60, venos lvl 65 (easy) and barbs...well barbs at my lvl XD

    i haved kill ppl 10 lvls higher than me n i have been **** by wizards about my lvl....wich means is not the character is the player...yup im in pve server, so im talking about duels n yup im a noob but even with my noobness i can beat every single class in this game XD so BMs arent that bat at all
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  • Warmechanism - Harshlands
    Warmechanism - Harshlands Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Dont roll BM if you want a main tank, main DD or main assasin class. You will be disappointed. Your main roles are mass stunner/mass debuffer in TW and secondary tank, mob crowd control in FBs, solo low scale AoE party(zhen BM+another guy, preferably cleric), DD killer in large scale pk (if on ground). Your not a pure breed.
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  • rhapsodus
    rhapsodus Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    lemme ask this. are we absolutely necessary for anything?
  • Voices - Lost City
    Voices - Lost City Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions_-_Blademaster

    It's in the intro.

    BMs are not just the jack of all trades, they are the best status inducing machines in the game, and actually BMs suck at magic damage so that does not constitute the jack of ALL trades (IMO that class would be venomancer). Nevertheless, most people that play blademasters do NOT know how to use them in more than one or two situations, so it makes the class look terrible. To say that blademasters are versatile is probably too vague, but when you think about a blademaster popping in and out any battlefield situation and still standing after a phoenix bleed, you start to understand that this versatility isn't necessarily offensive, but defensive.
    rhapsodus wrote: »
    lemme ask this. are we absolutely necessary for anything?

    The only classes in the game that are absolutely necessary in most situations are barbs and clerics. Since bms are technically a damage dealing class, they might be overlooked in place of an archer or mage. If the only reason you play a class is because you are wanted then you will end up being miserable in this game. Play what you enjoy, or what you think will be the most fun. Just out of personal experience it was no fun being a cleric for me, even when I was wanted most of the time.
  • rhapsodus
    rhapsodus Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    so far im having a good time playing my bm. i mean i prefer actually having to think on my feet and reacting to the changes on the battlefield. im not saying other classes are straight forward or whatever, but i think the 4 weapon paths for bm let you handle many situations, and im liking the need to switch between them to let you take advantage of your skills.

    but just aside from my own personal enjoyment, i want to make a valuable contribution to my faction whether its during TW or FBs.

    ill do my best to play this class well =P thanks.
  • Warmechanism - Harshlands
    Warmechanism - Harshlands Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    rhapsodus wrote: »
    lemme ask this. are we absolutely necessary for anything?

    Why do you feel the need to be needed. If you are good people will want you in their team no matter what class are you. You don't have to be crucial in a team to be part of it. Only the barb and the cleric are crucial in a team. Everyone else brings a bonus. A wizard isnt needed. But it lowers the time of the fight with the mobs. An archer isn't needed but he makes fights with bosses easier. A BM isnt needed. But it's nice when your squishies are kept safe from aggros. A veno isnt needed unless there's some serious pulling needed to be done. But it makes the FBs more organized and easier to deal with.

    I play a BM cause it's the most fun class IMO. Not because I feel the need to fill a role in a squad.
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  • rhapsodus
    rhapsodus Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    i like having a role when doing something. or a goal. if that's to protect my teammates by stunning the opponents, then that's fine. or if its to deal damage to the enemy, that's ok too. just something that adds to my enjoyment of the game. to be honest, i just rolled a BM cuz i wanted a class that's hard to play right lol. just alongside all that, like i said, i want to make a valuable contribution in TW, and i dont want to be hindered by class limits. but from the sounds of everything, looks like this class is fine for me. thanks.
  • Voices - Lost City
    Voices - Lost City Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    rhapsodus wrote: »
    i want to make a valuable contribution to my faction whether its during TW or FBs.

    On that note, blademaster is the only class that shows usefulness in TW at very early levels (level 60 minimum), because of their ability to stun and their HP. RQ of old Lost City lowered the level requirement for blademasters to get in when everyone else needed to be 80 or above as an example. In ventrilo players talk about need to win the stun war, and it is usually the side with more blademasters that wins this war (for obvious reasons). The ability to stun clumps of enemies is one of blademaster's greatest assets.
  • Warmechanism - Harshlands
    Warmechanism - Harshlands Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    rhapsodus wrote: »
    i like having a role when doing something. or a goal. if that's to protect my teammates by stunning the opponents, then that's fine. or if its to deal damage to the enemy, that's ok too. just something that adds to my enjoyment of the game. to be honest, i just rolled a BM cuz i wanted a class that's hard to play right lol. just alongside all that, like i said, i want to make a valuable contribution in TW, and i dont want to be hindered by class limits. but from the sounds of everything, looks like this class is fine for me. thanks.

    Don't worry. In TW BM are very important because their AoE stun severly disrupts the enemies. The BM is not a hard class to play. Not nearly as hard as wizards. But it is the most fun by far.
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  • rhapsodus
    rhapsodus Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    thanks for the help.
  • Dosinn - Dreamweaver
    Dosinn - Dreamweaver Posts: 205 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Ive played every class thru the 30s, and imo, the bm is the most fun. The four weapon paths each have their own strengths and weaknesses. The stuns are absolute murder in PvP/TW (ive got a lvl 60+ wiz, and know this for a fact), and when it comes to crowd control, no one does it better than a bm, again, imo. But the biggest thing that i like about being a bm, is that i can go absolutely suicidal on mobs, and if im smart (i know, smart & suicidal dont go hand in hand), i can kill all the mobs pretty easy (yes, im an axe bm. have also done swords). If you wanna be able to handle lots of mobs, keep squishies alive in dungeons/TWs, and genrally have lots of fun, be a bm. If you wanna tank/heal/do insane amounts of dmg/pull mobs, play another class. Just my 2 cents worth.
  • Norgannon - Lost City
    Norgannon - Lost City Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Not being needed...rocks. I can't imagine being called every 5 seconds for everything.
  • pervs
    pervs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Norgannon - Lost City wrote: »
    Not being needed...rocks. I can't imagine being called every 5 seconds for everything.

    It sucks that you need to find a whole party if you need stuff like HH, FBs, culti quests and stuff like that yourself though. You need an EP, WB and a DD, while said classes can just say "Anyone need a DD." or "Anyone wanna run some HH I'm willing to tank or heal."
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  • FadedChaos - Heavens Tear
    FadedChaos - Heavens Tear Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    pervs wrote: »
    It sucks that you need to find a whole party if you need stuff like HH, FBs, culti quests and stuff like that yourself though. You need an EP, WB and a DD, while said classes can just say "Anyone need a DD." or "Anyone wanna run some HH I'm willing to tank or heal."

    Not Really TBH, most things dont need a full pro squad or even a full squad.
    Mostly just need a cleric and a veno (any level aslong as they can lure).

    FB's 19-79 (excluding polearm but some bm's have tanked him ) A Bm can tank.

    Culti quest: nothing up to 83 that a Bm cant tank

    Wraiths ploy : All (apart from polearm again) Bm can tank

    TT : For Quest mobs: 1-1,1-2,2-1 (maybe the others but havent tried personally) can be tanked by a BM

    TT: For mats.. pfft sub it and no problem finding a squad and get others to have the repair bill.


    IMO people are to used to having Barbs/Hercs do it and you get the squishie's "OMG we need a barb/Herc for the FB/Boss " .

    And Bm's are FUN to play aslong as you dont let people shoe horn you into their pre-concieved box of whats Bm's should be and should do.

    b:victory
  • Anal_Thunder - Heavens Tear
    Anal_Thunder - Heavens Tear Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Wasn't BM supposed to be a really good farming class? Like a decent mid-high lvl soloer?
  • WickedSwords - Heavens Tear
    WickedSwords - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    FadedChaos - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Not Really TBH, most things dont need a full pro squad or even a full squad.
    Mostly just need a cleric and a veno (any level aslong as they can lure).

    FB's 19-79 (excluding polearm but some bm's have tanked him ) A Bm can tank.

    Culti quest: nothing up to 83 that a Bm cant tank

    Wraiths ploy : All (apart from polearm again) Bm can tank

    TT : For Quest mobs: 1-1,1-2,2-1 (maybe the others but havent tried personally) can be tanked by a BM

    TT: For mats.. pfft sub it and no problem finding a squad and get others to have the repair bill.


    IMO people are to used to having Barbs/Hercs do it and you get the squishie's "OMG we need a barb/Herc for the FB/Boss " .

    And Bm's are FUN to play aslong as you dont let people shoe horn you into their pre-concieved box of whats Bm's should be and should do.

    b:victory
    i can agree with those things(tho have to note its rather hard to Tank drummer(unless you have really insane hp since all below 5k hp one shoots you),and any other magical related boss that hits hard(since bm's usually lack hp overall in which barbs don't have much problems with(due to fact they can buff themselves with hp buff and turn into tiger form which gives them hefty amount of hp already.)).
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