100% pure vit build?

no. you need enough str to wear TT90 gold axes, 60 vit, and everything else into vit, this is the ideal tank build.

Sticky meant 60 Dex by the way.

And honestly, you can try to go PURE bit, but: your dmg would suck asssssss. You'd miss a loooooot.
You'll take a longer time to die up to the 15's, but you won't be able to kill anything. Once you get past the 20s you'll just be a nuisance with large amount of HP to mobs.

I will disagree with the slow killing part. A barb can kill as fast as a BM in human form. If they both have same STR, they will have same DMG. As a LVL10 barb and BM

they both have the same build STR: 35 / DEX : 10 / CON: 15... with latest equips, both are wearing a LVL9 dual axe. Its just 10 more VIT added for tank build, is it THAT much?

I looked up ectacomb for their stats, i'll copy them down


LVL10 barbarian's stats
HP: 576 / MP: 161
P. Attack: 63-123 / M. Attack 1-1
Crit. Rate 1% / Atk Rate: 0.83 atk/s
Accuracy: 80 / Dodge: 88 / Speed: 4.9 m/s
P. Def: 345
Magic defense-Metal: 123 / Wood: 123 / Water: 123 / Fire: 123 / Earth: 123

HP: 510 / MP: 187
P.ATK: 63-123 / M. Attack 1-1
Crit. Rate 1% / Atk Rate: 0.83 atk/s
Accuracy: 100 / Dodge: 108 / Speed: 5.0 m/s
P. Def: 345
Magic defense-Metal: 123 / Wood: 123 / Water: 123 / Fire: 123 / Earth: 123


BM have more accuracy, but barbs have flesh ream that never misses and gains a little bit more non-missing skill from sage/demon and bloodbath.

Tank's stats would probably be like 35 STR, 10 DEX, 15 VIT... Then following the cylcle of 3 STR, 2 VIT on even LVL, then 3 STR, 1 VIT, 1 DEX on odd LVLs

multiply build by 10 (goes to LVL100). barbs have better survivalbility but BMs have more agility and more MP. Regardless of build, everything else is the same. Use calculator with NPC equips and find out.


Summing it up that a barbarian can kill almost (or exactly) as fast as an axe BM in human form, all it takes is some MP powders/pots/charms not a big deal. I follow the build of getting to use the true scarlet axe, which will help best for tankers b:bye

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I will disagree with the slow killing part. A barb can kill as fast as a BM in human form. If they both have same STR, they will have same DMG. As a LVL10 barb and BM

they both have the same build STR: 35 / DEX : 10 / CON: 15... with latest equips, both are wearing a LVL9 dual axe. Its just 10 more VIT added for tank build, is it THAT much?

Compared to a str barb, the vit barb will kill more slowly.
Vit barb compared to bm is same as above.
vit barb compared to other classes is just: slow killing

OK wall of text time.....

Starang - Lost City wrote: »

VIT adds HP and elemental resist. Elemental resist is more important to raise as a heavy armor user than physical defense.. My build is basically STR 272 (HH90 green/gold requirement), DEX 60, MAG 5 (havent restatted 2 points out yet) and rest to VIT. With bloodbath i can get almost 3000 accuracy and my HP is still at ~13-14k in human form..

Yes Starang. I'm aware Vit adds HP,HP recovery,Pdef and Mdef. I have the same build as you, and you must have some great gear cause I only manage 12k HP in tiger b:chuckle.

But the point I was trying to make is that you do need those 272 str and 60dex. The OP was talking about a pure vit barb, wearing lvl1 armors.

EvilDragon - Dreamweaver wrote: »

If you want a pure vit build (80% vit, not 100% thats just crazy) the str and dex should be what you should have to wear your armor and weapon. And de rest into vit. Squads love this kind of build.

Thats what I was suggesting with the calamities. Though you still need to add 227 str, 49 dex (for lvl90 armors) and everything else into vit. You will find that even then you still have more str than vit.

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I will disagree with the slow killing part. A barb can kill as fast as a BM in human form.

Summing it up that a barbarian can kill almost (or exactly) as fast as an axe BM in human form, all it takes is some MP powders/pots/charms not a big deal. I follow the build of getting to use the true scarlet axe, which will help best for tankers b:bye

I disagree on both counts.

1. The patk is the same yes. That means both can kill one mob each at exactly the same rate if using normal attacks (barb is still slower since he misses abit more). Axe BMs kill faster than humanoid barbs, not because of more or less damage but because axe BMs have better, more spammable, aoes, will allows them to damage more mobs in a given time. Also you are assuming the same stats for both. Why would a BM pump vit like a barb (unless hes a tanker BM)? He would generally be putting a bit more str than a tanker barb.

2. A humanoid barb does not have the same survivability as a BM. Close but not quite there. Barbs get 30% more HP with our buff maxed.
In humanoid we do not have the 60% pdef bonus from shapeshifting intensify. So our pdef is a lot lower than a BM with golden bell. Additionally BMs have alter marrows and sutras, which make you much more survivable than a humanoid barb.
The barb and BM are almost equal when in a party and everyone has everyone else's buffs. BMs are still better than humanoid barbs (thanks to marrows). For the barb to be more survivable, he has to turn tiger.

Ahtoot - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I got about 16k hp in human form, you need to remember you get alot more mag/phy def from higher lvl armors and HP from good refines.... Extra stats given from higher lvl gears will cover the vit lost from pumping to dex/str....

Yep and thats why quite a few high level barbs often restat to a str/dex build to maximize their damage and help them PK better.

i think a good cheap idea to get alot of hp is to get
tt80 gold full set. +7 that or so then 4 socket which is much cheaper than tt90
and put like 4 imac HP gems per armor
keep ur str at 212 and dex at 50 or 49.. cant remeber which is the lowest.
then level to 90+ and use that +5% tt90 gold neck and tt90 gold belt becuase u save that extra 100 vit u shuold at my level have about 300 - 350 vit which puts u at atleast 21,000 hp in tiger (to 23,100 if ur sage) with +7 refines and some good rings helmet and cape etc.
-good build for barbs who want to save every single point of HP-

Hazardus - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I disagree on both counts.

1. The patk is the same yes. That means both can kill one mob each at exactly the same rate if using normal attacks (barb is still slower since he misses abit more). Axe BMs kill faster than humanoid barbs, not because of more or less damage but because axe BMs have better, more spammable, aoes, will allows them to damage more mobs in a given time. Also you are assuming the same stats for both. Why would a BM pump vit like a barb (unless hes a tanker BM)? He would generally be putting a bit more str than a tanker barb.

2. A humanoid barb does not have the same survivability as a BM. Close but not quite there. Barbs get 30% more HP with our buff maxed.
In humanoid we do not have the 60% pdef bonus from shapeshifting intensify. So our pdef is a lot lower than a BM with golden bell. Additionally BMs have alter marrows and sutras, which make you much more survivable than a humanoid barb.
The barb and BM are almost equal when in a party and everyone has everyone else's buffs. BMs are still better than humanoid barbs (thanks to marrows). For the barb to be more survivable, he has to turn tiger.

1. Yeah I just post stats for BM and barb, a barb would take longer in AOE i would believe you on that, but in how about 1 on 1? I am just stating from the statistics from a BM and a barbarian, also on the recommended STR on blademaster guide is like 3 STR per LVL at most (they can add more if they want) but i don't believe they would just add 9 STR, 1 DEX or somewhere like that every LVL, then again i think they do. So i can't believe a decent BM would commonly add more STR on a BM. I think they rely a lot on DEX over STR

2 . barbarians in human form might not have same survivability as a BM due to sutra and using alter marrows wisely, also golden bell and beast kings inspiration is squad buff. In PVE, barbs end up tanking. Also, imo bestial rage > alter marrow magical (at least that what experienced seen so far, least DMG i got attacked from magic with beastial rage with half HP, i only gotten 2 DMG), that is if you have 50% or less HP, I learned that you can absorb 2k DMG. Also there is invoke the spirit barbs have. As through the levels, especially in endgame barbs (they got to use tiger for defense O.o should ward off attacks and they boost HP, while warriors boost defenses. I find them good at survival in a different way.

Untamedchaos - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm a pure vit barb - minimum strength and dexterity and I hit like a cannon,

You mean minimum str and dex for weapons? Or min str and dex for armors?
If its the latter I'd be interested to know what weapon you use.

And btw, the OP was talking about 5str/5dex/5mag/all vit build.

Untamedchaos - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm a pure vit barb - minimum strength and dexterity and I hit like a cannon, whoever says pure vit barbs hit low obviously doesn't know what they're talking about. Listen to one who knows because they are.

And if you're that desperate to hit somebody, use Bloodbath, that's the whole reason we have that skill

what kinda cannon? plastic?

no barb ever hits like a cannon with anything except armageddon

b:chuckle

when i have 233 str to use calamity with TT90 armor and like 49 dex
the only skill that works good is armageddon

when i hit that zerk crit with tree of protection its up to 35,000 on a arcane
but other than armageddon all the dmg u do is about 40% less than tt90 gold axes or maybe 30 - 40% less dmg

but armadeggon is the only "1 hit skill" u have with a pure vit build

and u shouldnt be pvping with pure vit anyway...