Are full attack clerics good at duels/pk?

... no such thing as a full attack cleric endgame


ofc unless you wanna be a rebel and leave every beneficial healing skill at level 1...

well i think against your lvl cliercs r bad that y team up with someone if u want 2 pk.

Stickygreen - Heavens Tear wrote: »

... no such thing as a full attack cleric endgame


ofc unless you wanna be a rebel and leave every beneficial healing skill at level 1...

FAC is a nice build to have fun with until you're about 77...
The guy that wrote the guide said that the FAC is more a mindset then a build. Why? because when u start to rebirth and have SP to sell to others, you can lvl are your spells, and at that point, a FAC cleric will be no different than a "normal" cleric build. The diff will be so small especially in PvP that it just renders a FAC useless.
But few ppl seems to understand that guide...a lot are just following it blindly.

According to the guide, FACs have a pure mag build. While this might be decent against some other low hp-mag res classes like archers, its pure fodder for a wiz that has his/her 79 skills.

Full mag clerics are the only one I can kill as a wiz without using **** rock combo because their hp is so low (3k minimal refines to no more than 4k at 90+ with average refines).

Also, they're not good (in comparison to a cleric with vit ofc) at pk because they die much faster.
-Clerics have low mobility and the lowest pdef (venos go heavy or at least light+foxform for purge&amp, wiz have earth barrier).
-Plume shell doesn't help because its too late to do anything after a stun other than use an invincibility pot/holy path, unless your hp is high enough.

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

FAC is a nice build to have fun with until you're about 77...
The guy that wrote the guide said that the FAC is more a mindset then a build. Why? because when u start to rebirth and have SP to sell to others, you can lvl are your spells, and at that point, a FAC cleric will be no different than a "normal" cleric build. The diff will be so small especially in PvP that it just renders a FAC useless.
But few ppl seems to understand that guide...a lot are just following it blindly.

Even here ppl talk about FAC...

BludShot - Lost City wrote: »

its called full int. cleric...

Silly lowbie troll.

I consider myself FAC, although I dont follow the build exactly. I put 75% or more on magic, enough in strength and vitality to use my equipment, and the rest in vitality. You need enough hp to keep you alive long enough to kill two monsters without using plume shell. This protects you against agro mobs and keeps you from dying and losing EXP. The whole idea is to level, so anything that helps you do that is a good thing. if you find you are being killed easily by a monster or two, there is something very wrong with your build. Also, invest in arcane armor with extra vitality, hp or magic. As far as spells, spend spirit on buffs and attacks and just enough healing to get you and one other person by. Purify is great too. And get revive, but keep it at level 1 or 2. I am not really into pvp, but if you can heal yourself, you are very hard to kill. Then once they are pink you can go after them.

As someone who leveled up a lvl 91 full magic cleric on the server, and didn't have high refines, here's what I noticed.

Up to around 8X, I was slaughtering all classes in DT. Venos were no problem, even with the blubber fish. Barbs I would solo who were close to my level. Wizards were able to be pk'ed even with Undine, because they believe they will beat you and don't run. They may be able to 1 shot you when you are no-low refine and don't have plume shield on, but they are 1 shot as well. And the way they usually win is with their sleep skill on you, followed by no channel skill then Undine and their mixed phys and mag spell. You make it through that with the right apoths and pots used before slept, and they are easy to kill afterwards.

Haven't done any PK at higher end 8X and 9X, since after moving the events all happen while I'm at work. So no DT, no TW, no fun pk spots. Don't really feel like doing SP so much, less chance of getting to 1v1 people from time to time. And eating up angels never seemed fun.

But yes, a full magic build can whoop all classes of equal level and lower all the way up to lower 8X range from personal experience. Just have to get them near 50% health, and either go for the 1 shot with tempest, or go for high DPS and kill em before charm recharges. Either way works, barbs usually need DPS unless you have good crit and rainbow blessing to crit a Demon Sparked Tempest. That'll kill about anything though.

EDIT: Just read Momk's post, and if full mag the last thing you want to do is heal yourself. It's wasted time where you aren't killing them, and their charm is recharging. First thing I learned the first time I tried PvP was to not heal myself. Rely on apoths, pots, and charm to heal you while you deal damage. Only time to heal is when they are slept and you prep for damage or before hostilities start. Self-heal spam is one of the worst things to do I found, it simply won't beat a melees berserks and ultis, or an archers crits and stuns. You want them to stop before you do, and full mag isn't designed for soaking hits like that.