Is PKing penalty justified on pvp servers?

FieryVixen - Harshlands
FieryVixen - Harshlands Posts: 7 Arc User
edited August 2009 in Arigora Colosseum
Well I have been playing on Harshlands server which is supposed to be a pvp server, but if you look at the penalties of pking they are huge. If you pk a person you stay pink for 1 hour in which u will at least drop one item when you die. Now I am sure the reason one joins a PvP server is for the fun of Pking and not just killing monsters and grinding.

Shouldn't the pk penalties be based more upon if you are killing a person your own level or someone who is 5-10 levels lower than you ? Because unless that is the case you can never Pk until you are really high level or you have nothing in your inventory (which is impractical) as you will eventually find a high level person who will kill you if you have a pink/red name.

Your thoughts are welcome
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  • DarkSniper - Lost City
    DarkSniper - Lost City Posts: 1,830 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Dolls.



    That is all.
    The only way to win is to quit. b:bye
  • Nicka - Harshlands
    Nicka - Harshlands Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    well.. if there is no penalties for pk, or low ones.. u can be sure that high lvl will love to have fun killing lowbies, and them the lowbies will quit the game.
    about the itens.. that why that exist DOLLS, soo u wont drope your itens.. and u give cash" directly or not.." to the game"


    srry about my english..=p
  • FieryVixen - Harshlands
    FieryVixen - Harshlands Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Thats why I mentioned that the penalties should be levied if you kill someone who is of lower level than you and not if you kill any player.

    As for dolls it is the same thing either spend real money or wait to get to a higher level where you can afford to buy dolls. At the initial levels the items u drop are cheaper then a doll...
  • Warmechanism - Harshlands
    Warmechanism - Harshlands Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Well if you pk your gonna have to take what's coming. There's no feeling of danger if you are red for only a few minutes or not lose items when you're red and hunted by pker-killers or get too much stuff for doing it (some ppl want to get all the equips on the target and experience). Life as a criminal is hard... I like the pk system on this game.
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  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I was hoping the thread is asking for harsher penalty for PKer, but the OP disappoint me.
  • FieryVixen - Harshlands
    FieryVixen - Harshlands Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I would like to have harsher penalties depending on the level difference but not just becayse you pked someone who is your own level on a pvp server
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    You don't want penalties? Actually pvp properly and give the other guy a chance to fight back. If they hit you back they'll turn pink, then you can kill them without going red.

    Oh I forgot, you can't kill anyone that can fight back. They just kill you.
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  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You don't want penalties? Actually pvp properly and give the other guy a chance to fight back. If they hit you back they'll turn pink, then you can kill them without going red.

    Oh I forgot, you can't kill anyone that can fight back.

    Oh, Zoe, you troll b:bye

    PK pentalties are fine: you should only really go red from ganking/killing lowbies. And I don't give people the chance to hit back cause I only have 2,2k hp
    Bladestorm lets you spin around like a carnival ride and do damage. Not using it is almost like having a move called Confetti Rocket Power Leap and saving it for "emergencies"
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Nakhimov - Lost City wrote: »
    Oh, Zoe, you troll b:bye

    PK pentalties are fine: you should only really go red from ganking/killing lowbies. And I don't give people the chance to hit back cause I only have 2,2k hp

    Thank you for proving my point.b:chuckle
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  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    that's the point of being a mage b:chuckle


    Hitting hard enough not to get hit back
    Bladestorm lets you spin around like a carnival ride and do damage. Not using it is almost like having a move called Confetti Rocket Power Leap and saving it for "emergencies"
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  • Warmechanism - Harshlands
    Warmechanism - Harshlands Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I don't think any modification is needed on the actual pk system. I think it's just the way it should be. More punishment for pk will drive the pvpers away and there's no point in that. On a pvp server is only fair to be able to attempt to kill anyone. More rewards will make the ideea of "player killer" lose it's essence. As a player killer you are an outlaw, criminal always on the run (red name=drops equip, guards killing, carebears crying), so being a pker means fighting your destiny and the odds against you. Overrewarding make your life to easy and pking becomes like grinding.

    To Zoe, there's no shame in stealth when you are killing someone. It's part of the strategy and the thrill. Remember in other games there are classes with invisibility and the ability to mimic mobs in order to ambush players. I'm not dissing dueling, but the rules of dueling (written and unwritten) actually take away the chances of some classes to win, classes that use ninjakilling in order to be succesful (like a wizard).

    I personally don't have a problem with the actual pvp system of PW. There are other games with harsher pk policy.
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  • FieryVixen - Harshlands
    FieryVixen - Harshlands Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You don't want penalties? Actually pvp properly and give the other guy a chance to fight back. If they hit you back they'll turn pink, then you can kill them without going red.

    Oh I forgot, you can't kill anyone that can fight back. They just kill you.

    Read the thread carefully ... it asks for higher penalties from higher lvl pll killing low level... I have no issues with being pink or red when I kill someone in a fair fight but what follows is a higher level player who is 60.70+ comes and Pks you just because you have your name in pink and being a 30 something you are a sitting duck for them. So a good alternative would be that there are penalties only if you are kill by some one say max 5-10 lvl above you or any level below you not if someone who is 92 comes and kill a red/pink named lvl 37 player

    Also what i gathered is that even if you kill lots of pink named player your name turns red (I do not know this for sure so any clarifications would be welcome).
  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    FieryVixen - Harshlands wrote: »
    Read the thread carefully ... it asks for higher penalties from higher lvl pll killing low level... I have no issues with being pink or red when I kill someone in a fair fight but what follows is a higher level player who is 60.70+ comes and Pks you just because you have your name in pink and being a 30 something you are a sitting duck for them. So a good alternative would be that there are penalties only if you are kill by some one say max 5-10 lvl above you or any level below you not if someone who is 92 comes and kill a red/pink named lvl 37 player

    Also what i gathered is that even if you kill lots of pink named player your name turns red (I do not know this for sure so any clarifications would be welcome).

    Well, if the 92 kills lowbies they are basically a failure, they go red, and have to pay for dolls. Harsh enough, I'd say.

    And no, you only go red from killing whitenames.
    Bladestorm lets you spin around like a carnival ride and do damage. Not using it is almost like having a move called Confetti Rocket Power Leap and saving it for "emergencies"
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  • GREEN_GOD - Heavens Tear
    GREEN_GOD - Heavens Tear Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You don't want penalties? Actually pvp properly and give the other guy a chance to fight back.

    Some how I think you're laying into stealth killing, isn't the best pvper one who doesn't die? And the less you get hit the less chances of you dying? Therefore pvping properly? And in that respect wouldn't stealth killing be proper pvp? I dunno about you, but there are some pretty hardcore rogues in pvp servers on WoW that will stealth gank you if you don't pay attention.

    Penalties are fine, if you want to pvp on a pvp server (duh) then you lose equips, simple. Don't pvp if you don't like losing stuff. It's why I stick to pve servers. Not to mention it gets personal when you're out there grinding mobs and some level ninety noob that can't help but pass up an easy kill, comes out there and one shots you while you're busy doing your own thing.

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