Scary cleric...

Dodgeball - Harshlands
Dodgeball - Harshlands Posts: 11 Arc User
edited September 2009 in Arigora Colosseum
Anyone battled a cleric that you just couldn't beat? I want a cleric like that b:cry! I made a wizard but I dont like it. But i like magic classes. I understand that the cleric can be extremly resistent and almost impossible to kill. Is this true? I'm not a hardcore killer but I want to make my opponents think twice about killing me. Is this class made to last? I heard a guy in my ex guild who had a vit build cleric and he said that once he started using ironheart blessing, wellspring, tree of protection, hp pots and life restore elixirs there was no point fighting him even if you were higher lvl and he could last forever even against a gang of pkers? Is this true or he's just showing off?
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  • Dodgeball - Harshlands
    Dodgeball - Harshlands Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Also in a team who tanks the magic bosses? The cleric or the wizard? (If you have both classes)
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  • Monochrom - Sanctuary
    Monochrom - Sanctuary Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Normally the Wizards I'd say, because they've got the shields which up the elemental defense. So the Cleric could heal them.

    And well, I'm Arcane build so not even much phy def, but as long as I'm not one hit I don't die. Stacking Ironheart is already unbelievable (not using it in pvp though because it's kinda unfair). But if you even use ToP; HP Pots, Life restore elixirs etc. I'm pretty sure it's nearly impossible to die if you're not one shot.
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    your sig makes me nautious, couldn't read your post sorry b:surrender
  • Dodgeball - Harshlands
    Dodgeball - Harshlands Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    your sig makes me nautious, couldn't read your post sorry b:surrender

    You're mean to me!b:cry
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    You're mean to me!b:cry

    Nuh uh, I was just being honest, lol. I might have a less tolerable motion sickness than some. Just sayingb:surrender Too much movement.
  • BeingHope - Harshlands
    BeingHope - Harshlands Posts: 5,013 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Anyone battled a cleric that you just couldn't beat? I want a cleric like that b:cry! I made a wizard but I dont like it. But i like magic classes. I understand that the cleric can be extremly resistent and almost impossible to kill. Is this true? I'm not a hardcore killer but I want to make my opponents think twice about killing me. Is this class made to last? I heard a guy in my ex guild who had a vit build cleric and he said that once he started using ironheart blessing, wellspring, tree of protection, hp pots and life restore elixirs there was no point fighting him even if you were higher lvl and he could last forever even against a gang of pkers? Is this true or he's just showing off?

    Bleh first it depends what build you have.... Me, I don't really have one (oh gawwww.. I need a reset stone... T____T) but anyways, I find that some people who attack me actually don't hit me so hard if you have a lot of vit (too much for me....... T____T) which gives you time to kill back or run away....

    Lol and it is true you can last for a while but your not gonna survive for that long if more than 2+ people are on you, depending on level =P Personally, I lose nearly all my duels so..... <.< But I can take out certain people sometimes with 2-5 shots

    But yah.... In my opinion, clerics rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! b:victory

    So bye bye then! b:bye

    p.s. However, if you are a high leveled cleric, you can take anybody down....... <.< I've gotten pked by level 70+ clerics and they take me out in 1 shot.... Obvious but I've seen them pk the pkers in the area too.... <.<
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  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    robe cleric vs robe/LA wiz=wiz loses most of the time.
    Quit.
  • Rakthor - Lost City
    Rakthor - Lost City Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    grr clerics are annoying as to kill. If I don't spike em in my first hit, my fight with em will go for quite a while.... I once had a fight with cleric my lv that went on for like 5 minutes (sleep, run, heal, sleep, run, heal....)
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  • Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands
    Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    grr clerics are annoying as to kill. If I don't spike em in my first hit, my fight with em will go for quite a while.... I once had a fight with cleric my lv that went on for like 5 minutes (sleep, run, heal, sleep, run, heal....)

    xD for me fighting barbs in pk mode is really fun xD since the fight stay for a while and is challenging unless ur full mag build then barbs 1-2 shot u b:bye
  • Starang - Lost City
    Starang - Lost City Posts: 460 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    grr clerics are annoying as to kill. If I don't spike em in my first hit, my fight with em will go for quite a while.... I once had a fight with cleric my lv that went on for like 5 minutes (sleep, run, heal, sleep, run, heal....)

    Sleep, debuff, spark, genie amp is pretty much GG at your lvl.
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    robe cleric vs robe/LA wiz=wiz loses most of the time.
    That's because u don't know how to play your wiz.

    If it's random PvP depends on who can land the first hit. Indeed, a cleric is very hard to kill because of the high magic resistance, but seal it, undine+poison and drop a tempest. Shouldn't be much left from the cleric after that. TIMING IS VERY IMPORTANT and it takes a lot of practice to get it right. I've seen 90+ wizards in my guild drop a 90+ full buffed cleric in 3 hits (demon sparked in DT) and the cleric was sealed/slept from start to end.
    If it's a duel, FoW makes wonders, but again TIMING IS VERY IMPORTANT.
    We don't have seals/sleeps to last for half an hour like the cleric does, because that will make us overpowered. Timing the important to a wiz. I still have to work on mineb:thanks but when I get it right ( and I'm getting it more and more often now) nothing stands up.

    And no matter what u do, cleric is always a pain in the bu!t.
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  • Acceptance - Harshlands
    Acceptance - Harshlands Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    u get pwned by clerics because "plume shot" is a physical attack. and thats why i recomend clerics for pking, much more than wizzards.
    its true wizzard skills become unbeateable at lvl 89+. but till then, you as cleric can:


    Buff yourself (making much more powerful)

    Debuff oponent(making it weaker)

    Shield against physical damage(80%damage reduction)

    Heal yourself (till the point u can regen 10000 hitpoints every 3 seconds)

    Sleep and paralize the enemy

    Output one of the HIGEST damage against robes, while having huge magic defence against them.

    Output one of the HIGEST damage against heavy armour, while having your plume shield absorbing damage.


    Clerics who really know how to use their skills can be one of the best, if not the best pkers at normal lvls, due to their survivity and their versatility.

    the bad thing is everyone will call you hacker everytime you heal, use shield, or just win.

    high recommend to read full attack cleric guide from canyeon to check builds, and skills.

    Gd luck with ur potentials clerics^^
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    high recommend to read full attack cleric guide from canyeon to check builds, and skills.

    ew I cant believe that **** is still stickied.
  • Acceptance - Harshlands
    Acceptance - Harshlands Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    try full attack cleric, learn to pvp with a little of strategy, and we will talk. at my lvl only some good bms and wbs with lucky stuns can kill me. not to say robes are a laugh even 10 lvls over me.
  • Acceptance - Harshlands
    Acceptance - Harshlands Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    correction, just beat a bm 7 lvls over (hello sauronuss XD) b:chuckle
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    lol.
    suuure, that BM has to be the benchmark for all the BMs in the world.
    And yes, you might be a good PK at low lvls, waint until BMs will be able to stunlock you or wizards to debuf , seal and sleep u.
    We'll talk once you're gonna start fighting some 80+ well geared and experienced PPL. Every noob can get to 50, with some patience to 70 and with some time to 85. At that point things are startig to get serious. Whatever u think about chars at your lvl is wrong. You'll start to get an idea in the late 70s and 80s how the things are really like.
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  • Acceptance - Harshlands
    Acceptance - Harshlands Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    <---archer lvl 79 lost city...
    and as i said, ye, i was talking bout NORMAL LVLS, not even high. i kno that if a bm stuns u before u had time to shell ur dead; and having tried other "pking" classes i still think that someone with my exp and with average gear would be the best potential pvp class as cleric till...those huge lvls,
    anyway, as many ppl gets tired between lvls 70-80, i think worths making a cleric for pking.
    also, as you are from dreamweaver, i guess ur pvp experience comes from tw, what i wouldnt call exactly pking (and i cant imagine a high lvl character going from lc to a pve server for..dunno, more fun doing again the quests?:D)
    btw, not trying to be annoying, just trying to make a positive analisis of clases based on skills more than experience.
    gd luckb:surrender
  • Stickygreen - Heavens Tear
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,158 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    dont evne talk about pk pre 90


    everyone here hit 90 , go get some pk expierence then come back and argue.
    Less QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks

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  • Acceptance - Harshlands
    Acceptance - Harshlands Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    omg another pker from pve server?!?b:shocked
    anyway, oki, ill tell when im 90, cant wait to be pwned by all the ,as it seems, pking gods^^
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    look, you're cocky now because at your lvl the only ppl that care about PK is the ones that don't know how to do it. The rest of them are not wasting time with PK, are busy to lvl up.
    U win against robe? against what robe? wizards? Well, that has to make u a master of PK of some sort. And BMs? niiice again. I honestly don't know any decent player that puts some tought/cash into gear at that lvl, so yeah, you can win a lot of duels or PK with some success, but right after 79 things will change dramatically.
    Cleric are still good in PvP, don't get me wrong, but around lvl 8x a wizz will seal/sleep you for about 9 seconds total and debuff+hit you about 3 times in that 9s. Or if he sutras you will be dead by the time the seal comes off with or without your plumeshell ( which is for phys dmg anyway). Your plume shots ravages Robes at this lvl, but I need 4 plumeshots from a lvl 84 cleric with a +6 2 imacculate Endless to take me down. And honestly, unless I'm stunned by someone else (read BM) , that 'ain't gonna happen.
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  • SilentBless - Heavens Tear
    SilentBless - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    b:thanks eveyone and every class can be good at Pk .it all comes down to gear, the amount of money u spend to upgrade and refine and the person behind the toon. lol.
    but i still love my cleric. cleric FTW!!!
  • Lenyel - Harshlands
    Lenyel - Harshlands Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    b:thanks eveyone and every class can be good at Pk .it all comes down to gear, the amount of money u spend to upgrade and refine and the person behind the toon. lol.
    but i still love my cleric. cleric FTW!!!

    I like this line of thought!
  • Aznchristmas - Harshlands
    Aznchristmas - Harshlands Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Arcane clerics have good magic def (+1)
    With plume shell they have good phys def (+1)
    They do magical and physical damage (+1)
    They never miss (+1)

    Best PKers in my opinion
  • Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands
    Wtfxxxshot - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    try full attack cleric, learn to pvp with a little of strategy, and we will talk. at my lvl only some good bms and wbs with lucky stuns can kill me. not to say robes are a laugh even 10 lvls over me.

    b:laugh i was a pure mag cleric and tbh at 60+ barbs archer bms and like every class 1 shots u =_= wats the point for damage if u cant take 1 hit??? now am vit build and when i fight barb it take them a freaken long time to kill me in pk plumshell combo and just run for 10 secs then use again and if u land a crit with spark gg barb
  • Warmechanism - Harshlands
    Warmechanism - Harshlands Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Arcane clerics have good magic def (+1)
    With plume shell they have good phys def (+1)
    They do magical and physical damage (+1)
    They never miss (+1)

    Best PKers in my opinion

    First of all this is not a flame on clerics. I like clerics.

    But...

    Just one good nuke that doesn't require spark (-1)
    Forced to use ultimate in order to do real damage (-1)
    Physical spells can't be used in a proper combo with the magic spells (-1)
    Anti stun/sleep spells -> harder work for the cleric.

    The cleric can take alot of hits but it's harder for this class to kill others if these wear HP charms. Clerics can't always deal enough damage to kill before the charm ticks again.
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  • Aznchristmas - Harshlands
    Aznchristmas - Harshlands Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    First of all this is not a flame on clerics. I like clerics.

    But...

    Just one good nuke that doesn't require spark (-1)
    Forced to use ultimate in order to do real damage (-1)
    Physical spells can't be used in a proper combo with the magic spells (-1)
    Anti stun/sleep spells -> harder work for the cleric.

    The cleric can take alot of hits but it's harder for this class to kill others if these wear HP charms. Clerics can't always deal enough damage to kill before the charm ticks again.

    these things are true for all classes, whereas the advantages i listed can only fully be achieved by clerics (archers have phys/mag but they miss, etc)
  • Kotecek - Lost City
    Kotecek - Lost City Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Clerics on lvl 60+ are become pk- haters and want to kill all pkers they meet on their way, I had bad luck and meet cleric like that, when I was pink on 2 h, cuz I'm rather bad in pvp and this stuff, so i died... Geeez they have good magic defence, heal, buffs, stucking iron heart, sleep, phys and mag attack .. naaah!! clerics are too overpowered! b:cry cancel this class pls XD replace it with .. Monk XD
    My chars: 97 barb, 87 cleric, 91 veno, 80 archer, 74 Blademaster, 34 Psychic, 30 Assasin, 20 Wizard, 44 Seeker, 20 Mistyc.

    ^ I have SO many personalities to play them all! b:cute

    And YAY for my Phoenix!(on THIS veno ^^) b:victory
  • BeingHope - Harshlands
    BeingHope - Harshlands Posts: 5,013 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    grr clerics are annoying as to kill. If I don't spike em in my first hit, my fight with em will go for quite a while.... I once had a fight with cleric my lv that went on for like 5 minutes (sleep, run, heal, sleep, run, heal....)

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! b:laugh Reminds me of this one time with this one pker (now my friend lol) tried to pk me but I ran from SP to Archosaur by running, flying, dropping, etc. Lol no healing but it worked lmao... <.< b:chuckle

    Its amazing though, just recently I saw a battle (ok okay, duel lol) with a cleric and a BM and even though the BM was higher leveled, the duel went on for 5-10 minutes until the cleric won..... <.< But I guess it just depends which build you have lol
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  • Sir_Martin - Lost City
    Sir_Martin - Lost City Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    To me Clerics are pretty fun, but the only problem is being like 2-4 shot by Physical Damage (If you are using Arcane) and with pking I don't really have much experience except me being kill by pkers *mumble RageQuit mumble*.b:chuckle the problem for being a cleric is being just stun locked by BMs or being stunned in general but as soon as you get your Ironheart going your going to rule since u can heavy hit BMs Barbs Wizards. (If you have High Magic =P) Even though Im a glass cannon I can heal ridiculously fast.
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  • DarkSniper - Lost City
    DarkSniper - Lost City Posts: 1,830 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Anyone battled a cleric that you just couldn't beat?


    Never.


    I can one shot a lot of clerics around my levels.
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    Just Wind Shield + take aim + extreme poison right before take aim connects, regular shot if still alive (not usually still alive unless has an excessive amount of Vit.)

    archers have phys/mag but they miss, etc


    No, we don't. Not unless were fighting another archer.
    The only way to win is to quit. b:bye