Low Level Wizard

Nyr - Lost City
Nyr - Lost City Posts: 1 Arc User
edited August 2009 in Wizard
Well, don't call me inexperienced because of my low level. I've had many accounts on the game, But this is my first wizard, I've gone for the "Pure INT Build", If you don't like it. I Really dont give a ****, but i was wondering if anybody had any tips to stop me dieing so much? I have the idea of kiting sorted, but is there a good combo/macro to use if i want to finish off a Mob before they get to me?
Also, what skills are the best to get, and what ones should i not bother wasting my SP.

Also, if theres anything else you would like to say/advice about how to play Pure INT Builds, or just wizards in general, it would be highly appreciated.

Thanks
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  • Mikel_oru - Sanctuary
    Mikel_oru - Sanctuary Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Well, don't call me inexperienced because of my low level. I've had many accounts on the game, But this is my first wizard, I've gone for the "Pure INT Build", If you don't like it. I Really dont give a ****, but i was wondering if anybody had any tips to stop me dieing so much? I have the idea of kiting sorted, but is there a good combo/macro to use if i want to finish off a Mob before they get to me?
    Also, what skills are the best to get, and what ones should i not bother wasting my SP.

    Also, if theres anything else you would like to say/advice about how to play Pure INT Builds, or just wizards in general, it would be highly appreciated.

    Thanks

    Kiting and phy def shards are the only solution for your lvl, it gets better at 24+. Still as pure int build mobs shouldn't even reach you..
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  • Rinnve - Lost City
    Rinnve - Lost City Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    But this is my first wizard, I've gone for the "Pure INT Build", If you don't like it. I Really dont give a ****, but i was wondering if anybody had any tips to stop me dieing so much?
    The thing is, pure int build is end-game build. Wiz must get some pdef and some hp. After 9x, hp comes from good refinements, and pdef comes from expensive shards and correct equipment. Before it, pure int lacks pdef or hp 'cause refining to +5 or more is meaningless before 9x, and wiz must choose hp shards or def shards. Both choices are flawed (and pdef choice is just **** IMO lol). So, the only thing you can do to stop your wiz dieing so much is to change your build. If you are pure int, it is not hard, but it'll take some time to add required stats: dex and str (for LA build) or vit (for vit build). Of course, you can continue being pure int and master kiting skills, but i consider it somewhat... masochistic. I've tested vit build, it is solid and good at least to 72. LA is also considered good, but more pvp-ish (more criticals that helps to break through charms, but somewhat lower survivability).
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  • Jonnykins - Dreamweaver
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    To be honest, as a pure int build all you gotta do is know what skills to use and your equipment. Get PDef/HP in your eq keeping to all equal elements, same with your shard. A small thing I've found helpful is to has both PDef and Magic def necklace and belt (I've even found swapping my helms is good too)

    From my experience from leveling, against magic mobs you will find it a breeze as full mag, they don't hit you too hard not much needed to say here.

    Melee mobs are little problematic till 39, they can hit you quite hard but try to use HP pots and don't forget to run if needed to allow you to replenish your HP. Past 39 you wanna use gush (Glacial snare at 49) and pyrogram, then use will of the pheonix to push the mob away, and spam those two again till the mob dies. Generally using that method I get once of twice max.

    Ranged melee mobs are the ones you hate I died quite alot against these, just run when required and don't give up, you can always use will of the pheonix if required to help you along to ensure the mob only gets one hit less on you
  • Rinnve - Lost City
    Rinnve - Lost City Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Ranged melee mobs are the ones you hate I died quite alot against these, just run when required and don't give up, you can always use will of the pheonix if required to help you along to ensure the mob only gets one hit less on you
    They are weakest, in fact. Get some hp regen apoth powder and keep distance SHORT. That is, don't run from then, run to them. They deal 1/2 damage on short distances; moreover, they usually try to run from you. Usual fight for me was: DS to mob, gush, mob hits once (weak) and running, pyro, another gush and DS again - mob runs AGAIN, then gush, pyro and it's usually finished, dealing like no damage (thanks to hp regen and earth shield). Of course, DS must be leveled high enough, or it'll recharge too slowly.
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  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Hard to avoid being hit near the beginning of the game, you lack range which is what mostly gets you. Clerics have the same problem, you could try using a set of level 1-5 HA against physical mobs. That will be effective until lv.20~ish.

    Try and keep your primary skills(Pyro, gush, stone rain) maxed.

    Keep Stone Barrier maxed as well.

    Do not get more than one level of Crown of Flame/Pitfall.. they are useless. Ignore hailstorm until you can get lv.1-10 in one go, maybe get one level and use it as an emergency spell.

    Divine pyrogram is your first nuke so keep it reasonably leveled.

    Distance shrink and sandstorm need to be kept leveled as well.

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  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Pure int I wouldn't even bother refining pre-90...
    Just + your weapon up (1-2 @ 60, 3ish @ 70, 4-5 at 80) and pew pew to 90.
    Just gush kite till you get distance shrink and pheonix if you're having trouble, and don't take mobs too high out of lvl range.

    You can't 'macro' kite, but I usually like to lead with pyro and then gush, so pyro would hit only a little before gush, making the spells hit nearly at the same time. Make sure to take advantage of elemental weaknesses (ie fire > metal, water > fire, earth > water)
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  • DarkV - Dreamweaver
    DarkV - Dreamweaver Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Seeing as I was just at your current level a short while ago, I can definitely say that having an LA Build would help immensely while your level is relatively low. It is not a bad idea to try a few Vitality points to increase the HP. No matter how Pure the build is, at the early levels, it is nearly impossible to eradicate mobs before they touch you.

    Using HP Potions, Kiting, having an LA Build or Vit Build, and equipping the somewhat lame Shards available to you at this point would all help you in your cause.

    As for the spells, the basic 3 (Gush, Pyrogram, Stone Rain) should be maxed whenever possible. At this point, I doubt that the Shields would do "too" much to help your cause. I kept the shields at the base until I got to the 20s.

    One thing I realized (when I got around Level 25) was that investing in Potions for MP more than HP did the trick, as using Morning Dew or the odd HP Potion takes care of the HP, leaving MP Potions and Glacial Embrace (to be leveled up later on) to take care of MP.

    Changing from your Pure Build into a Vit or LA Build will take you a few levels, and by that time, you should be getting stronger anyway, increasing your damage and learning spells to take care of your HP/MP, so, in the end, it is up to you whether you want to try tweaking your Build or plowing through the mobs while having a Pure build.

    Hope this helps.

    DV
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Kiting and phy def shards are the only solution for your lvl, it gets better at 24+. Still as pure int build mobs shouldn't even reach you..

    uhhh you dont shard armor until 50 ish, 60 ish

    go LA it would help at the lower levels
    or
    just deal with it
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  • ilystah
    ilystah Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I think the simple answer have been overlooked: get a better computer/connection.
    Wizard aren't meant to be played with a laggy client because most of the time you can't macro what you should do, and it seems like your client is lagging, that is why you die a lot.
    1 small trick: for any mobs, you can kite them indefinitely by keep running and casting gush/pitfall, so theoretically you will always kill it before it reach you. Of course in practice this is a time-inefficient way of killing though, but you might use it if you face magic resistant mobs.
  • Fireblood - Harshlands
    Fireblood - Harshlands Posts: 1,414 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Well, don't call me inexperienced because of my low level. I've had many accounts on the game, But this is my first wizard, I've gone for the "Pure INT Build", If you don't like it. I Really dont give a ****, but i was wondering if anybody had any tips to stop me dieing so much? I have the idea of kiting sorted, but is there a good combo/macro to use if i want to finish off a Mob before they get to me?
    Also, what skills are the best to get, and what ones should i not bother wasting my SP.

    Also, if theres anything else you would like to say/advice about how to play Pure INT Builds, or just wizards in general, it would be highly appreciated.

    Thanks
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  • Tsuyoginos - Heavens Tear
    Tsuyoginos - Heavens Tear Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Seeing as I was just at your current level a short while ago, I can definitely say that having an LA Build would help immensely while your level is relatively low. It is not a bad idea to try a few Vitality points to increase the HP. No matter how Pure the build is, at the early levels, it is nearly impossible to eradicate mobs before they touch you.

    Using HP Potions, Kiting, having an LA Build or Vit Build, and equipping the somewhat lame Shards available to you at this point would all help you in your cause.

    As for the spells, the basic 3 (Gush, Pyrogram, Stone Rain) should be maxed whenever possible. At this point, I doubt that the Shields would do "too" much to help your cause. I kept the shields at the base until I got to the 20s.

    One thing I realized (when I got around Level 25) was that investing in Potions for MP more than HP did the trick, as using Morning Dew or the odd HP Potion takes care of the HP, leaving MP Potions and Glacial Embrace (to be leveled up later on) to take care of MP.

    Changing from your Pure Build into a Vit or LA Build will take you a few levels, and by that time, you should be getting stronger anyway, increasing your damage and learning spells to take care of your HP/MP, so, in the end, it is up to you whether you want to try tweaking your Build or plowing through the mobs while having a Pure build.

    Hope this helps.

    DV

    I'd be strongly against a Vit-Hybrid build because you only get 10 hp points per point. So at level 100, you get only 1k extra from having 100 vit. That's 95 vit that could be in your magic. Also you can succeed as full int if you're smart. I used to be LA and hated it. It's hard to find people selling reset scrolls, and if gold keeps messing up (it should level out to around 125k since the events are over), you would need to spend real money to restat.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    (O.o) my advice: Level fast~ i went from level 1 to 40 in 9 days and this is my first character. (>.<)' and squad up~ having a bm or barb who can aggro correctly helps alot. also im a complete noob (^.^) noob power~ FTW~
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  • Zetarana - Heavens Tear
    Zetarana - Heavens Tear Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    One thing I would suggest is, build a macro and try it out, see if it works or doesn't, tweak as needed. (For any particular MOB)

    The Macro I use now for most stuff is Gush, Stone Rain, Will of the Pheonix, Force of Will, Gush, Stone Rain, Pyro... I use Pheonix on F2 if they get to close, and I use the "S" + Distance Shrink for a quick runaway before firing off gush again if I get rushed or Pheonix is in cooldown.

    Note: My Wiz is Level 57 @ time of this writing.

    You will ultimately have to work out your own spell macros based on how they work, and what level you have your skills at.

    I always use Life Powder and Focus Powder, the mats are cheap enough if you don't want to farm them and low enough level as not to need a lot in Apoth skill.

    You can flip between your shields for different needs, HP regen, MP regen, and PDef.

    Morning Dew, is good for Healing yourself and generating chi.

    Lastly, the skill Wellspring Quaff is good to boost the amount of MP you can have available, so that, in combination with Focus Powder and MP Regen Shield is a win to keep you with enough MP to stay going.

    Alway keep potions for your level for quick top offs for both HP and MP.

    Hope this helps...
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  • Rinnve - Lost City
    Rinnve - Lost City Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Also you can succeed as full int if you're smart and don't care about pvp.
    Fixed for you.

    Full int before end-game high-refined equipment can be successfull, but only in pve (and such a wizard may be unwelcome in advanced pve parties due to extreme squishiness). In pvp, full int usually dies before dealing damage, so all this high matk is equal to 0.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Note: My Wiz is Level 57 @ time of this writing.

    =O you went from 57 to 71 in a day? O.o' how you level so quickly? xD me level so slowly T.T only 1-40 in 9 days.

    im a pure int build hamster wizard. =D and my advice is to level as dam fast as you can. >.<' squads help tremendously. =D even if its a two wizard squad you can kill the monsters before they even get a shot off. just time your attacks ^.^' although it is easiest with a bm or barb taking all the aggro (>.<)

    well only problem is the random pking by level 60+. xD fun but kind of saddening when me know i cant kill em....yet ^.^
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  • Zetarana - Heavens Tear
    Zetarana - Heavens Tear Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    =O you went from 57 to 71 in a day? O.o' how you level so quickly? xD me level so slowly T.T only 1-40 in 9 days.

    My Main is a Veno Level 72 now. And my wizzy is 58 Now... check out my sig.

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  • Zetarana - Heavens Tear
    Zetarana - Heavens Tear Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    the mats are cheap enough if you don't want to farm them...

    Boy has this changed over the last few days... Mats have gone through the roof...
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    mats prices are kinda fair.
    Buying high mats for 2k is very nice way to take advantage on the ones that don't have cash and are trying to make some. 3.5k is more like it, not faming mats is a good idea.
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  • Hizaki - Dreamweaver
    Hizaki - Dreamweaver Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I am a low level pure-int wizard and I do just fine killing monsters. On non-metal based monsters i kill in 3-4 hits usually right as the mob gets to hit me once (not a problem really) and on metal monsters i kill them in two hits using both pyrograms.

    All I did was max as much magic attack as I can at my level and try to keep it topped up as best I can (yes you will have to spend a while farming big bucks/dragon quest items) to sell to npcs or other players that are doing the quest
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  • BrownflameZ - Lost City
    BrownflameZ - Lost City Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Go LA prior to 9x, its cheap and it works.
  • Taarloor - Harshlands
    Taarloor - Harshlands Posts: 472 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    -Shouldnt need to shard ur gear if you're a keen manufacturer and make 2 or 3star gears w/ phys def or HP bonuses as you lvl up.
    -Life Powder is your best friend, keep it stocked up, best place to harvest is around Timberfield (4 herb patches in that area, and u get alot of iron/coal/wood for manufacturing too)
    -Forget dex its a waste unless you're going light armour build. The goal, as previously stated, is to be able to kill things in 3 shots, put everything into mag and ur minimum str requirement.
    -Play smart and lure ur kills from the edge of the area when possible, if you go into the think of it you'll attract aggro and this is where you'll die most often, taking on more than one mob.
    -If you've got some $$$ buy HP charms, they certainly make you more useful in general.
    -Level hard and read up on what spells to spend ur spirit on, you wanna get that right as spirit can seem in short supply at early levels.
    -Squad with whoever is killing the same mobs you are, a barb or bm wont mind taking the hits if they kill things 3x as fast.