Ideeas to improve the cleric^^...

Im tryin to think in terms of fairness with other classes...

Rey_rey - Harshlands wrote: »

4.Revive-is our most hated skill cause it does nothing for clerics. So I think its fair that CLERICS SHOULD BE ABLE TO REVIVE THEMSELVES.

A PRE-ress spell to cast on ourselves would actually benefit not only us but the whole squad as well.

6.Stream of rejuvenation-should have the same casting speed with "Ironheart blessing" so endgame clerics won't be overdamaged by others.

Not needed but it is useful for everyone.

8.Plume shot-is weak endgame and needs a special attribute like skill intrerrupt.

Not needed but it would be nice if we actually had at least one spell that could stun or interrupt that dealt dmg.

And 17. and last: Flight mastery-should add its bonus to ALL WING TYPES. Stackable.

seems slightly fair enough considering clerics are among THE slowest running classes in the game, and also dont have any sort of warping or speeding skill.

Dodgeball - Harshlands wrote: »

Aw come on guys. There are some good ideeas in there...b:cute

What do you suggest?

Yes I would like to see flight mastery stack with other wings and that would have to go the same for Archers.

...says the lv 1 cleric.


Seriously, actually PLAY your class before suggesting anything.

Soul Transfusion please. That's all we'd ever need. b:victory

1) 12 Hp per Vit point? Not OP, but it would be kinda harsh to Veno's having the same Hp as a Cleric
2) Immunity to stuns for 10 seconds? A better idea is just to realise that it isnt one of those "Max me skills". Like a Wizards FrostBlade or a Veno's Consume Spirit. You have plenty of other Heals that are more effective, are you not happy with them?
3) 33 Chi Each time when cast? Not too bad, but it already grants 10 and considering its a fast casting spammable skill and cheap MP wise, your Vigor is pretty high anyway.
4) Reviveing ourselves? No. Would negate the point of Revival Scrolls and Clerics would never lose anything from dieing at high levels.
5) The Hell version purify's yourself and Purges your target when cast.
6) Stream with 1 second cast time? No. Wellsping surge casts in 1.5 seconds and heals less at level 10 than River does at level 1. IronHeart casts in 1 second and heals 100 more HoT more at level 10 than River does at level 1. No-one would skill Wellspring or IronHeart if River was still one second. You could maybe get away with 2 seconds, but again I doubt if many people would skill Wellspring if that happened.
7) No. Make everyone elses buffs redundant. 100% M.Att is the same as a Half-hour Spark Eruption. OP.
8) No. Everyones starting skills eventually get outdamaged by higher level skills. Wait patiently untill level 89 like everyone else.
9) OP. Damage AND AoE stun is the same as the Wizzies earth Ultie.
10) Permanently active Plume Shell? No. OP. 20 seconds is pushing it as it is, giving only 10 seconds of time in where it wont be active.
11) Crown of Flame is useless. Blazing Scarab is useless. Vicious Arrow is useless. Draw Blood is useless. Garrotte is useless. Get used to DoT being useless (with the exception of Bosses)
12) OP, again. Same attack power as WT at level 29? In an AoE? With a Stun effect? Wizard Ultie again >.>
13) No, it wouldnt. Wizards are Perfect Worlds prime nukers. Having the same attack power as them AND being able to Heal/Buff/Revivie would make them non-existant.
14) Naw, OP. The debuffs are actually OP as it is... (remembers flying through a TW and Debuffing everyone)
15) Seals rule. Elven Boon became part of my grinding combo aswell, so don't knock it. (WT-->GC-->Elven Boon-->GC, dead). I meen seriously, the seals are really good. You get attacked by Veno with nix and a Cleric, sleep cleric, paraylyze Nix, Seal Veno. Anyway, Look at the other 100 skills! Im a BM, I have 2 skills with a 15 minuite Cooldown. Im a Wizzie, I get fury burst again, and a PvP only skill that costs a Spark and does virtually nothing. Im a Archer, a Have to good skills, but one has a 15 min cooldown and the other has a 5 min cooldown. Im a Barb, I have one attack that is a normal attack, but instead has a 20% chance to Purge and 5 min cooldown skill that costs half my MP. Im a Veno, and I have 2 10+ minuite cooldown skills that cost a spark each. Felling luckyer?
16) It would, but that would be like the Veno's self-seal, except without a seal.
17) Yes... and No. I personally think that Flying mastery shouldnt exist, as you can do quests for the brown wings. Adding 2m/sec to all wings however when maxed, would be the same as upgrading your wings 4 times at 1000 stream city, which should normally cost quite a bit of Zen. No-one has skills that replace Boutique items, and this shouldnt do it either.

Woyaa

<< cleric has to be one of the easiest classes to play >> BS there no easier or harder than any other class it just depends on the person playing it .

<< I personally think that Flying mastery shouldnt exist >> everyones entitled to there opinion but i for one am glad it does.

I dont agree we should be able to revive ourselves . A good group quickly learns to keep the cleric alive and a good cleric quickly learns to agro manage.

I would like to see a <sucky group> spell where we can bubble ourselves and get whiped of the mobs agro list and watch the idiots die . To be used in emergencies so we can at least rezz the group before leaving b:laugh

I personaly feel we are well balanced as we are though maybe a AE pury would be nice, longer cool down and higher mana use so its not abused b:chuckle

Yea.. soul transfusion on a cleric.. pretty rigged.

Its like you will never have to use a potion again. You can heal hp. Then use transfusion to get max mp, then heal to full hp...

LloydAsplund - Sanctuary wrote: »

Yea.. soul transfusion on a cleric.. pretty rigged.

Its like you will never have to use a potion again. You can heal hp. Then use transfusion to get max mp, then heal to full hp...

I'm not saying it had to be just for Clerics...

Why...that Veno-only Genie skill is just BEGGING to be abused by Clerics and Barbs alike! Don't tell me you wouldn't like to swap those piddly...what...1-2k MP for a full HP bar from time to time? =P

But no really, Venomancer is PW on easy mode >.< They get a pet, they can heal said pet, if they're smart enough not to outdamage the pet they don't even need a cleric to do anything or a barbarian. Oh, and don't even get me STARTED on phoenix and herc pets. As if they didn't have enough going for them already to add THOSE. >_> I'm killing the next red named nix I see I swear. I also die to bramble hood so much on my BM it's not funny. I once got PK'd by a veno on my BM, came back with my cleric and said "BRAMBLE THIS B*TCH!" *Plume shot to face*

b:surrender Don't hurt me, I've had coffee....

ANYWAY, out of BM and Cleric I find cleric to be easier, but this is my first MMO and my BM was my first MMO character so I'm not sure that it wouldn't be different if I went back and tried it all over again. Haven't tried Barb yet... I should do that. But in any case, I don't think the cleric needs improving, I get cried to enough as it is when I win duels or thwart a player killer x_x I don't need to be improved b:victory I haven't tried some of the other classes yet, but I'm a little busy with the two that I have.

are u lost?! How many attack spells do u want? If u want more roll a wiz pls. We get some great magical attacks and some decent pyshical attacks

We can DD well, support amazingly and tank magical bosses, sounds pretty good to me.

LOL i like your ideas,b:laugh but you forgot one thing a MP RECOVERY MOVE, because we need that the most for HP spaming on tanks if we run low on mp in FB's or TT's runs and it will save us money on mp pots.b:victory

Since you created a thread trying to make the cleric class more overpowered, can I do the same with barbs.(DD/healing barbsb:sin) Gm's if you add this you might as well make them able to tank and have pets because everyone will become a cleric.


(Hint for your next thread: "Cleric's deserve to start on level 100")

Camerlengo - Dreamweaver wrote: »

...says the lv 1 cleric.


Seriously, actually PLAY your class before suggesting anything.

just got around to this your level 45 im level 80 tyvm and i dont just level though daily so STFU

Belligero - Sanctuary wrote: »

You do realize his post was aimed towards the OP and not you? b:surrender

b:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckle

Do you think clerics should have a MP Recovery move? b:question Because that's one good way to to improve the cleric. b:victory