1 100 vs 100 30

Wizzeled - Sanctuary · August 2009

Heres how this goes, 1 lvl 100 vs 100 lvl 30s. Who would win?

You could instantly say "Lvl 100 duh" but it'd be charmless fight

.

Now barb would prob win, but for cleric or ranged things the 100 couldnt move. U'd be stick in plcae but u can attack, just cant move. And they would all be beside the lvl 100 instantly, not at a distance running.

Now 1 class against 20 of each of the other class

Ex: lvl 100 Archer vs 20 venos, 20 barbs, 20 clerics and 20 bms.

So post your scenario and who would win :P

Part 2

Now same thing BUT the level 30's have the best gear for their class (Level 30 gear of course) +12'd and all perfect sharded (How they are sharded is for you to decide.) And an extra kick in the crotch, the venos all have lvl 30 nixes with full bellies.

Level 100 only has best gear for their class with no refines or shards(level 99/100 gear of course.).

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · August 2009

The lv 30s would.... MAYBE... if they used genie or get lucky interruptions in but really im not too sure.
A lv90 who goes in fb19 still can get hit in terms of acc so theres a good chance to get interrupted.

I made a thead about fb19 and high lvl deaths before:
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=325342&highlight=fb19

80s 90s CAN die there >>; if careless

Starrr - Harshlands · August 2009

1 aoe=100 dead noobs. end of story

Zoe - Heavens Tear · August 2009

Say those 100 level 30s are not new to the game and have plenty of pvp experience. They are therefore, not noobs.

Hemoglobin - Lost City · August 2009

Easy for the lvl 100:

Archer: whatever your zhen is, idk the name...
Wizzy: Dragons breath or one of our fabulous ults
Cleric: Spam ironheart until you have enough chi to tempest
Bm: 1 or 2 AoE's should take out the pack
Veno: I think they have a few AoE's. Everytime I see a high lvl veno AoE, all I see is dead bodies..

But yeah, lvl 100 would always win hands down because it'd only take 1 hit to kill the whole pack of them.

I'm still trying to figure out why you even posted this..

Lolite - Heavens Tear · August 2009

Imagine this:

lvl100 wizard vs 100 lvl1 venos

Almighty wizzy: -begins to cast aoe-
100 Venos: Omg omg! -sends in 100 pets with Shriek and Flesh Ream-
Almighty wizzy: Jeez! -skills being interrupted numerous times- Okay **** that! -runs over to whack venos with his weapon-

Hmm... so what if the pets are nixes? o.o

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · August 2009

Hemoglobin - Lost City wrote: »

Easy for the lvl 100:

Archer: whatever your zhen is, idk the name...
Wizzy: Dragons breath or one of our fabulous ults
Cleric: Spam ironheart until you have enough chi to tempest
Bm: 1 or 2 AoE's should take out the pack
Veno: I think they have a few AoE's. Everytime I see a high lvl veno AoE, all I see is dead bodies..

But yeah, lvl 100 would always win hands down because it'd only take 1 hit to kill the whole pack of them.

I'm still trying to figure out why you even posted this..

Its easy to assume but reality is a bit harsher.
If you take a cleric over lv90 to trail everything in about 3 rooms which = about 25-30 or so mobs, and they all attack you at once, even with your plume shell you will be interrupted alot midcast for tempest. Plumeshot or cyclone not that much, but even ironheart was tricky with 30 mobs on you.

wizzy would have it even harder. Venos maybe the 3rd.

All that huge dmg dont do nothing if you keep getting interrupted.

Fuhjeebies - Harshlands · August 2009

100 stuns?
100 bleeds?
lol no chance

Granrey - Sanctuary · August 2009

Fuhjeebies - Harshlands wrote: »

100 stuns?
100 bleeds?
lol no chance

it all depends about the players, where they are, who attacks first and so on.

Just to give you a sample, sometimes, I;m on fb's and I try to pull all mobs to me so I can aoe them, then a barb in squad trying to helpb:chuckle, knocksthem all back and I cant kill them with my AOE.

So, if somehow the 100 team is around the mighty 100. I'm quite confident a single aoe would kill them all in one shot. My preference would be fissure as it adds weapon damage or cyclone heel for bein quick lol.

However, if they start stunning, things could get interesting.

Fuhjeebies - Harshlands · August 2009

Granrey - Sanctuary wrote: »

it all depends about the players, where they are, who attacks first and so on.

Just to give you a sample, sometimes, I;m on fb's and I try to pull all mobs to me so I can aoe them, then a barb in squad trying to helpb:chuckle, knocksthem all back and I cant kill them with my AOE.

So, if somehow the 100 team is around the mighty 100. I'm quite confident a single aoe would kill them all in one shot. My preference would be fissure as it adds weapon damage or cyclone heel for bein quick lol.

However, if they start stunning, things could get interesting.

i understand what you are saying but, if one single stun connects then it will cause a domino effect allowing all other potential stuns to land

plus i really don't think one single player could handle the attrition of 100 ppl lol
yeh maybe the aoe if used first would handle it but all it would take would be for one archer to stand back and pop a stun while the player is about to aoe and it's gg n g'bye

i really don't see anyine tanking 100 different skills that are all firing at the same point in time lol think about it there would be stuns,bleeds,accuracy debuffs,armour debuffs, 100 GENIES lol............ nah it's not happening >.>

Granrey - Sanctuary · August 2009

Fuhjeebies - Harshlands wrote: »

i understand what you are saying but, if one single stun connects then it will cause a domino effect allowing all other potential stuns to land

plus i really don't think one single player could handle the attrition of 100 ppl lol
yeh maybe the aoe if used first would handle it but all it would take would be for one archer to stand back and pop a stun while the player is about to aoe and it's gg n g'bye

i really don't see anyine tanking 100 different skills that are all firing at the same point in time lol think about it there would be stuns,bleeds,accuracy debuffs,armour debuffs, 100 GENIES lol............ nah it's not happening >.>

I;m not sure but if you use stun skill to a already stunned character, rather than stacking, you get the opposite. you get unstunned.

But I;m not sure, I have not pay much attention into it.

BTW, I have seen late 70 players being killed in fb19 lol

Fuhjeebies - Harshlands · August 2009

Granrey - Sanctuary wrote: »

I;m not sure but if you use stun skill to a already stunned character, rather than stacking, you get the opposite. you get unstunned.

But I;m not sure, I have not pay much attention into it.

BTW, I have seen late 70 players being killed in fb19 lol

i dunno about the stun stack either tbh i just meant it would give an opening to kinda have the lvl 100 perma stunned by consecutive stuns lol

all that aside i just remembered archer don't get a stun at 30 lol haha

good debate but am going to bed b:bye

RRARRRRGGHHH - Sanctuary · August 2009

Level 100 uses maxed genie skill bramble rage, dealing over 12k wood and earth damage on the ground (24k total before pvp reduce), 15 meter aoe of level 30s dies from 25 meters away instantly.

Any survivors are easily cleaned up, a bm could also use anti stun will of bodhistava and aoe without any interference of stun.

And to be honest if this actually did happen i would laugh my **** off.

Hari - Heavens Tear · August 2009

venos - can just bramble and go fox form. all the melees will suicide, the fox can spam leech and mist AoE kill everything.

archers - use wing attack or w/e, the AoE one, has a really short channeling time and will kill everything

barbs - any AoE will kill them all

clerics - use the feather AoE or siren's kiss, whichever has a faster channeling time

BMs - any AoE will kill them all

mages - earth shield, sutra, any 2 spark AoE of your choice. they can't interrupt what doesn't channel.

Calliope - Heavens Tear · August 2009

Purge doesn't affect apothecary pots, right? Anti-stun pot for the lvl 100 should simplify things.

Zuuka - Sanctuary · August 2009

Calliope - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Purge doesn't affect apothecary pots, right? Anti-stun pot for the lvl 100 should simplify things.

Balance Genie Skill would work too, I think. xP

DarkSniper - Lost City · August 2009

If I was lvl 100 I would have demon wingspan.

So if 100 level 30s were attackign me I would use wingspan once and kill them all.

Wizzeled - Sanctuary · August 2009

To make things interesting I've updated the first post.

StrangeScar - Lost City · August 2009

Anti stun skill / pot = easy win for lv100

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · August 2009

Starrr - Harshlands wrote: »

1 aoe=100 dead noobs. end of story

what she said ^

Fuhjeebies - Harshlands wrote: »

i understand what you are saying but, if one single stun connects then it will cause a domino effect allowing all other potential stuns to land

plus i really don't think one single player could handle the attrition of 100 ppl lol
yeh maybe the aoe if used first would handle it but all it would take would be for one archer to stand back and pop a stun while the player is about to aoe and it's gg n g'bye

i really don't see anyine tanking 100 different skills that are all firing at the same point in time lol think about it there would be stuns,bleeds,accuracy debuffs,armour debuffs, 100 GENIES lol............ nah it's not happening >.>

stun pots, better anti damage pots since you already cant move

wizard just use emberstorm and become a time bomb, if they get interuptted it goes off b:chuckle

Arshies - Sanctuary · August 2009

O.o 100 angrys nixes bitting u at same time........... XD

I think lv100 win:

Archer: Demon Wingspan = aoe 9m + lv5 windget shell
BM: Demon Cyclone Hell = aoe 8m + 15% speed + 20% attack
Wiz: S/D Black ice dragon strike = aoe 12m + slow enemy's
Cleric: Demon Tempest = aoe 12m + freeze + slow
Barb: Demon Sunder = aoe 12m + bleed
Veno: Demon Parasic Nova = aoe 12m + stunt + 30% dmg also Sage Parasic nova + bramble hood = aoe 12m + stunt + 200% return melee

Im not sure if those skills are the best for others class but......
Summary: 100 lv30 defeated even if they'r wearing the best build they cant support those skills

This thread is funny maybe must be suggested like an event b:laugh

Mizorie - Lost City · August 2009

is they are grped up, blink into the grp and use aoe genie skill GG

Slake - Lost City · August 2009

what about 100 archers in a circle around the lv100 player at max range pew pew-ing (or doing the same in like 2 waves of 50), you wouldn't be able to aoe them all, maybe not even half (that really depends on their range and the aoe range).

TheGoliath - Heavens Tear · August 2009

lag would win

Paladin - Harshlands · August 2009

100 BM with sprint and use stun skills all the time = win

truekossy · August 2009

Level 100 has it easy unless all the lowbies are using +12 sets or something. lol

Archer: Anything that attacks physically will most of their attacks. Wingspan the stuff that's close and barrage/thunderous/etc stuff that's far away. For added lulz, use a magic marrow or damage immunity pot after you kill off the close range people.
BM: AoE stuns. Anyone that survives it and is in range is stunned or near dead, or just realized how screwed they are.
Veno: Go fox and hide under your herc at the start. Half the melee people will die on herc's reflect or it simply killin them while you pick off the rest. Alternatively, stand on herc and enjoy nox gas/parasitic Nova/etc
Wiz: Sutra, cast spell, laugh.
Cleric: Tell them you won't heal/res/buff any of them ever if they attack. They'll be too busy QQing to fight back as you kill them off or walk away.
Barb: See cleric, only replace support with tank. Or you could sunder too I guess. That works too.

nederlandse · August 2009

TheGoliath - Heavens Tear wrote: »

lag would win

+1 10characters

GodlyTank - Dreamweaver · August 2009

Wizzeled - Sanctuary wrote: »

Heres how this goes, 1 lvl 100 vs 100 lvl 30s. Who would win?

You could instantly say "Lvl 100 duh" but it'd be charmless fight .

Now barb would prob win, but for cleric or ranged things the 100 couldnt move. U'd be stick in plcae but u can attack, just cant move. And they would all be beside the lvl 100 instantly, not at a distance running.

Now 1 class against 20 of each of the other class

Ex: lvl 100 Archer vs 20 venos, 20 barbs, 20 clerics and 20 bms.

So post your scenario and who would win :P

Part 2

Now same thing BUT the level 30's have the best gear for their class (Level 30 gear of course) +12'd and all perfect sharded (How they are sharded is for you to decide.) And an extra kick in the crotch, the venos all have lvl 30 nixes with full bellies.

Level 100 only has best gear for their class with no refines or shards(level 99/100 gear of course.).

lol, Tree>Armageddon b:bye nubs

1 100 vs 100 30

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