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    Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2009 in General Discussion
    I have been seeing a lot of players lately with colored fox tails and some panda barbs, and some blademasters wearing hats. So my question is, is it indeed illegal/bannable to edit this to change this for your character appearence or not? It doesnt give you any advantage so I wouldnt see the big deal about it but I just wanted to ask and make sure.

    If anyone has ever had a offical answer from a GM on this topic I would like to know what you was told, thanks for your time. Or if a GM could commit in here on this matter that would be even better.
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    • Posts: 1,321 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Ok I was off a bit for 2 months but if nothing about this has changed since then:

      Editing your character through the pwi files is illegal/bannable. Apparently, this is allowed on the MY (malaysian) server though.
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    • Posts: 478 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      winty1984 wrote: »
      I have been seeing a lot of players lately with colored fox tails and some panda barbs, and some blademasters wearing hats. So my question is, is it indeed illegal/bannable to edit this to change this for your character appearence or not? It doesnt give you any advantage so I wouldnt see the big deal about it but I just wanted to ask and make sure.

      If anyone has ever had a offical answer from a GM on this topic I would like to know what you was told, thanks for your time. Or if a GM could commit in here on this matter that would be even better.

      colored fox tails?
      you sure it ain't your computer acting up on you?

      panda barbs?
      are you sure it wasn't the panda mount?

      BMs with hats?
      you mean the bandans/headbands? or maybe that chinese hat with the 2 "antennas" (don't know the name), those have been in the customization since the release

      thing is, even if other players add or edit their own content, you "usually" won't see it on your side of the screen unless you have also added or edited your game files
    • Posts: 1,293 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Darkjagans - Heavens Tear wrote: »

      thing is, even if other players add or edit their own content, you "usually" won't see it on your side of the screen unless you have also added or edited your game files

      Not true, I've seen several modifications. One of which was someone who modified their BM to look like a herc. At first I thought it was something new but I posted on forums about it and I was informed this person modified the files.
      I wouldn't even begin to know HOW to modify them, so I assure you I've not. People who do it are gambling with their accounts.

      It is bannable/against the TOS.
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    • Posts: 2,843 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Reikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      Editing your character through the pwi files is illegal/bannable.
      Thing is, the colored fox tails is doable without editing the character ini files.
    • Posts: 478 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      Not true, I've seen several modifications. One of which was someone who modified their BM to look like a herc.
      well i did say "usually"

      a long time ago, a friend of mine who played on another version (probably MY) edited and added his own "skins", however, only he was able to see the custom files, other players did not, so it really depends how they **** it
    • Posts: 3 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      Thing is, the colored fox tails is doable without editing the character ini files.

      I heard something about that also but don't quite understand it, You make your skin color what you want it to be correct? I tryed it on a new veno to test and it didn't work.
    • Posts: 3 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Darkjagans - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      colored fox tails?
      you sure it ain't your computer acting up on you?

      panda barbs?
      are you sure it wasn't the panda mount?

      BMs with hats?
      you mean the bandans/headbands? or maybe that chinese hat with the 2 "antennas" (don't know the name), those have been in the customization since the release

      thing is, even if other players add or edit their own content, you "usually" won't see it on your side of the screen unless you have also added or edited your game files

      Yes I have seen many of the things I listed, I will find some screenshots if you would like to see. Surprised you never heard of this at your level.
    • Posts: 478 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Bethina - Dreamweaver wrote: »
      Yes I have seen many of the things I listed, I will find some screenshots if you would like to see. Surprised you never heard of this at your level.

      well screenshots would be nice

      i've heard about editing files, otherwise i wouldn't be telling you about my friend hacking files in the other version

      however i have not heard it to the extent of getting a barb actually transform (True Form) into an actual panda (unless you meant a barb as a panda without using True Form... coz that's normal...)
    • Posts: 1,321 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      Thing is, the colored fox tails is doable without editing the character ini files.

      Oh? I didn't hear of that. Even then is it still legal? o_O
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    • Posts: 7,021 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Reikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      Oh? I didn't hear of that. Even then is it still legal? o_O

      Considering how screwed up the bushy tail model is, it had better be legal. All you do is change their skin color and the tail's color (instead of their actual... you know... skin) will change as well.
    • Posts: 3 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Ok, so the legal way to change tail color. I was told that it is your skin color? I put my skin color all the way to black and my tail stayed the same. Am I doing something wrong? Anyone that can explain this to me I would really appreciate it =].
    • Posts: 1,494 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Bethina - Dreamweaver wrote: »
      Ok, so the legal way to change tail color. I was told that it is your skin color? I put my skin color all the way to black and my tail stayed the same. Am I doing something wrong? Anyone that can explain this to me I would really appreciate it =].
      The only way to change a venomancer tail's color is to edit some of your .ini files.
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      Thanks Brit for the sig b:laugh
    • Posts: 63 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      The 'legal' way to change tail color is a bug. IIRC, it only works on one of the fox presets, where changing the skin color only changes the characters face and tail. It leaves the rest of the body the default color. So you'd be playing, for example, a white bodied Veno with a black face and tail.
    • Posts: 2,843 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Bethina - Dreamweaver wrote: »
      Ok, so the legal way to change tail color. I was told that it is your skin color? I put my skin color all the way to black and my tail stayed the same. Am I doing something wrong? Anyone that can explain this to me I would really appreciate it =].
      Well, I dunno if you'd call it "legal" but the skin color customization for at least one of the veno models is messed up, so it's very easy to change the tail color without ever realizing it. You can't see the tail color change in the zoomed-in customization screen, and since people think they're tweaking skin color, they usually end up putting it at a tone look pretty close to the default fox tail color. If they started banning people for it, they'd end up banning a lot of innocent people who didn't even know they'd changed their tail color. (i.e. Didn't notice the tail color until after they'd created their character, and didn't figure out how they did it until after the 2-day customization lock kicked in.)

      It's been reported as a bug almost since day 1, and hasn't been fixed. So I have very little sympathy for the devs making a fuss over the issue (the GMs did their job and reported the problem to them, and are just caught in the middle). At this point it would probably be worse to fix it since it would result in a lot of venos suddenly having their skin color change. Probably to something they don't want since the customization screen didn't give them any visual feedback that the skin color setting would loook awful.

      http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=306571
      http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=132361

      The same fox model also has no nether regions. With the default clothing or arcane armor with short skirts, if you position your camera as if you were trying to peek at her panties, there is just an empty space there. Like the body is invisible and you can see through to the clothes on the other side.
    • Posts: 1 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      But what about the original question of this thread: ini changed chars, allowed or not?
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    • Posts: 54 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      kallikashnikow wrote: »
      But what about the original question of this thread: ini changed chars, allowed or not?

      Absolutely 100% not allowed b:laugh If you see someone with a messed up character please take a screenshot and submit a ticket through the website.
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    • Posts: 3,446 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      eatwithspoons wrote: »
      Absolutely 100% not allowed b:laugh If you see someone with a messed up character please take a screenshot and submit a ticket through the website.

      They are called "tickie's" now, get with the times. Ask Rose if you don't believe me.b:surrender
    • Posts: 130 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      If we see someone who is clearly messing with the files but they also purchase zen, will a proper course of action still be taken?
    • Posts: 3,446 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Bebisita - Dreamweaver wrote: »
      If we see someone who is clearly messing with the files but they also purchase zen, will a proper course of action still be taken?

      I'm pretty sure the punishment would be the same. I don't see why it wouldn't. <_<
    • Posts: 406 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      It is one of my annoyances...If you are a Red Fox Tailed Veno (there is also a Kit Fox model or maybe it is supposed to be a Fennec but the ears are not quiiite big enough) and you try to change your skin tone after your original change your face and tail changes color but not your whole body like you would want. This annoys me because I wanted to make a change to my skin color but cannot because A) It will not really work and B) I would get in trouble because it will make my tail change color...

      It is completely doable with no hacks, and is a bug flat-out that needs to be fixed, but it is against the rules to do it. Though it would not need to be against the rules if the bug was...you know...fixed...Just saying...(Yeah I know the GM's are at the Dev's mercy too but this is an oooold problem)
    • Posts: 54 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Bebisita - Dreamweaver wrote: »
      If we see someone who is clearly messing with the files but they also purchase zen, will a proper course of action still be taken?

      Yes it will, I'm not sure where you get your information, but your accusations are highly unnecessary
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    • Posts: 406 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Bebisita wrote:
      If we see someone who is clearly messing with the files but they also purchase zen, will a proper course of action still be taken?

      Yeah, I am not sure why you think just because they charge Zen they will not get in trouble properly. I have never seen the GM's fail to enforce the rules irregardless of the person's spending habits. I highly doubt they even bother themselves with checking such irrelevant things before doing their duty.
    • Posts: 82 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
      I'm pretty sure the punishment would be the same. I don't see why it wouldn't. <_<

      There is an issue with another gaming company, while not actually proven many people suspect that buyers of the game money are given preferential treatment over non-buying players, i.e. temp bans last shorter time periods, perma bans less likely, ect. As I said though, it is not proven, and since I am inside the system, I can say that no such thing happens.
    • Posts: 59 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      eatwithspoons wrote: »
      Absolutely 100% not allowed b:laugh If you see someone with a messed up character please take a screenshot and submit a ticket through the website.

      I wonder one thing here... If you look at the female BM charactes, you can see 1 off the basic looks have a red hair-colour you cant choice on any other chararacter, are only female BMs allowed to have this colour, or is there a way males can have it to?
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    • Posts: 82 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Harukie - Lost City wrote: »
      I wonder one thing here... If you look at the female BM charactes, you can see 1 off the basic looks have a red hair-colour you cant choice on any other chararacter, are only female BMs allowed to have this colour, or is there a way males can have it to?

      You can edit hair colors with the color thing. So yes, males can get that red color as well.
    • Posts: 2,048 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      what i want to know is when is the glitch going to be fixed that will allow fox tailed venos to have skin tones(*full body,not just face*) other than the pale one now possible? it is most definitly a glitch, that any other veno can have any skin colour they want, but the fox tailed venos have to be white. and yes, i have done the ticket route, and no, there is nothing presently done about it. my son looked at the files for all the venos, and said, as it stands, nothing can be done.

      so how about it, Spoons? can you pass this on to the Devs for us? the reason people want to tweak is because we are tired of being the only ones who cant have other skin tones, but want to be true fox-venos, not wolf/dog venos or the other types. i love my fluffy tail, but hate being so white faced... :-/

      eatwithspoons wrote: »
      Absolutely 100% not allowed b:laugh If you see someone with a messed up character please take a screenshot and submit a ticket through the website.
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    • Posts: 1,494 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      what i want to know is when is the glitch going to be fixed that will allow fox tailed venos to have skin tones(*full body,not just face*) other than the pale one now possible?

      Like many other bugs/glitches in this game : probably never. There are bugs that have not been fixed for a few years now....

      In PW, if something is not fixed after a few weeks, you can bet it will never be fixed.
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      Thanks Brit for the sig b:laugh
    • Posts: 59 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Aerilya - Sanctuary wrote: »
      You can edit hair colors with the color thing. So yes, males can get that red color as well.

      You cant choice THAT red on the hair-colour-thing, if you meen the one in the custemize thing
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    • Posts: 1,321 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Harukie - Lost City wrote: »
      You cant choice THAT red on the hair-colour-thing, if you meen the one in the custemize thing

      He speaks the thruth b:surrender

      I played around with it just then. For the texture it has curly selected, I would've thought you'd get highlights or rainbow and make it red but neither achieve the same dark red. I put it back to curly and selected the darkest red possible however was unable to make it as dark as the preset's.
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    • Posts: 3,814 Arc User
      edited August 2009
      Reikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      He speaks the thruth b:surrender

      I played around with it just then. For the texture it has curly selected, I would've thought you'd get highlights or rainbow and make it red but neither achieve the same dark red. I put it back to curly and selected the darkest red possible however was unable to make it as dark as the preset's.

      That's because the preset was one of the one submitted to the GMs in the preset contest and the funny thing is, it was illegally modified with the ini file.
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