Archer VS. Blademaster

I've got this wizard, a 68 bm, a 45 cleric and a lvl 30 archer. For the fun, wiz and archer are my favorite. At this point wizard is still winning. As per grinding and what repairs/arrows cost. I would say its about the same from what I've noticed.

aznboiek wrote: »

i was just wondering which of these were more expensive to use.. ive played a bm and used a lot of money and i was just wondering how it was for archers since im starting one anyone got an answer?

Archer is certainly not a cheap class, id say its more expensive since a BM can unlike archers make good money aoeing. As soon as you can start aoe at Nightscream island you will make loads of cash as a BM. I know Bms that made like 40 mil from just aoe at ants, that would be impossible for any archer since they have to kill mobs 1 by 1. Archers also use loads of hp pots or hp charm lvling and they do consume quite a bit mp pots. Winged shell does not regen shiet.

Archers are also pretty gear dependent (like all DD-classes ). A Bm on the other hand can do fine 90+ with only like +3-4 gear and +6 weapon since they can tank a bit more and also have the chain stun. Archers need alot more refine on both weapon and gear or they just drop to fast lol.

Divine_Death - Dreamweaver wrote: »

O.O where are these ants? b:dirty

Your sig is win lolb:laugh

TameThat - Sanctuary wrote: »

Archer is probably one of the least expensive class to play (along with venomancer).

- You have low repair cost due to the fact that you are killing enemy before they reach you (no armor repair, just weapon).
- You have a mp recovery skill. (Winged Shell)
- You use less pots then what you get from grinding.

You can do fine with just the level 1 ammo, so using 4-6 ammo per monster is gonna cost you 8-12 coins if you buy them off Blacksmith and thats pretty much half nothing.

LOL! Winged shell doesn't recover **** for MP. YES you use MORE pots than what ya get from grinding.

.....and only an idiot uses the lvl one arrows if you can get higher grade.

Although....the reasons may be totally untrue, yes an archer is cheaper than a BM by far. BM has way more repairs and costs in Pots.

lol wtf? explain where my 300+ perfect mystery pots came from? and i sure as hell don't use mana charms for grinding

winged shell recovers more than enough for that 1 spell you spam while grinding -> frost arrow

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

lol wtf? explain where my 300+ perfect mystery pots came from? and i sure as hell don't use mana charms for grinding

winged shell recovers more than enough for that 1 spell you spam while grinding -> frost arrow

Yeah if you do "normal attack" you use no MP. Why on earth would you use 1 spell (frost arrow) and nothing else? Thats just crazy. I do not understand out of 25+ skills why you would choose to kill something slower and use normal attack. Not to mention, if you have 300 pots why are you hoarding them. Use your skills and use the pots.... after all; that is what they are for.

BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yeah if you do "normal attack" you use no MP. Why on earth would you use 1 spell (frost arrow) and nothing else? Thats just crazy. I do not understand out of 25+ skills why you would choose to kill something slower and use normal attack. Not to mention, if you have 300 pots why are you hoarding them. Use your skills and use the pots.... after all; that is what they are for.

i hoard them to give them away to faction members who have classes that do spam spells (and when i cube). well strictly talking about pve, more like, it's not necessary to use many skills. archer's damage on mobs mostly comes from normal shots. spells take up channeling and casting time, during which you could've squeezed out an extra shot. the extra damage added to archer spells is not more than what the normal attacks can deal, especially with a decent weapon. no, it's not base damage + x00% weapon damage + addon damage like caster nukes; its usually base damage + addon damage (except for deadly shot and barrage, which you don't spam while grinding, well i dont)

generally speaking, frost is enough to slow down a mob so you can kill it before it touches you. if not, then you can cast knockback and stun or something and slowly regen the mana back with winged shell on subsequent mobs. you're not going to kill mobs faster spamming spells than just normal attacking. as the mob moves toward you, casting something takes up time while dealing less damage than attacking twice (or more depending on the spell), and during that time the mob moves closer toward you without having taken as much damage. that makes you more likely to get hit as well.

with a really good weapon, like a highly refined soulsmasher, you don't even need to cast anything most of the time.

only ever grind 1 day and that was during the double exp week.. and even that put me offb:cute but i heared from bm frineds that aoe grind do give u a lot of money for the hr

Well, I am a lvl 88 BM with little cash and I do AoE grind quite often. The repairs for me are sometimes outrageously high. I also have an archer that I play with for fun, that's close to 60 levels lower than my BM but has almost the same amount of cash. So, either I failed my BM character or my archer is a good money maker for her level.

BM aoe grinding get charms **** (HP and MP), so it's not that easy to make money as a bm. Honestly i make more money grinding mobs 1 by 1, then go and aoe 10+ at once. The point of aoe grind is to get huge loads of xp really fast (perfect for zhening party/fast lvl).
Tbh, the way i see it, fastest way to get money is to grab a cleric, and grind on spiders... BM dragons and aoe while cleric tanks b:dirty

Typical archer grind = 3 skills (less buffs and the likes)

Winged shell
Frost Arrow
Knockback

A decently geared archer may not even need frost or knockback meaning you will only use winged shell, KB at most.

I for one have never ever bought a single pot. I only use pots in instances and other things, NOT grinding.

So all of you who said archers needs pots or need to buy them or "not using any skills for grinding is bad" actually have no idea how archers grind. Grinding gets easier as levels pass. If you're spamming skills to kill when you grind, you're doing something really wrong.

For BM, I have no comment on their expenses.

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Cal - Harshlands wrote: »

Thats a fail bm's ofc.

I know bm's who buy GX mat from wht they get through aoeing. (thats 30M)

Max i saw on a archer is 20M (he was a cash shopper).

Just my bow is over 20mil (got it upgraded at 81 and still using it at 84, meaning I have a 20+ mil item at 81 without cash shopping) and I have not spent one cent on this game. It honestly just depends on how the person plays rather than the class...

At lvl70 I had 300 lvl60 Hp pots and 70 or so MP pots from drops.
Archers do more damage with not using skills on usual mobs especially with W&C + another speed incrising gear.
Archers are not expensive at all. We do not AoE grind, but I dont really feel poor compared with Wizzards.