BM soloing magic mobs
DSB_SPARTAN - Sanctuary
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I hear that Bms are meant to be teh **** at 60+ when solo grinding. But at 60+ the mobs all turn magical so how can you Bms cope with the magic damage when AoE grinding?
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Because not all turn magical, and you AoE the pure physical ones.0
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Just get lvl 3 alter magic marrow for a good balance of mag and phys def. And i think theres a new genie skill called Balance for BM only that also helps boost mag def i don't know exact details but check out the patch notes if your interested in that skill0
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During the low lvl stage BM's are best to keep in squads till they get around lvl 55 ish and yes as BlademasterxX said all BM's should have magic marrow at least to lvl 3 for good balance between their magic and phy def. but aeolian blade works like a charm when any magical mob tries to cast b:laugh .
after 60+ best way for BM to lvl up is solo grinding(depends on what BM class you are you go either aoe grinding or just eliminate mobs one by one.),best spots for grinding are with foxwings at hidden heroes village(good thing about these foxwings is that they are not agro :P so you can take them one at the time without fear you gonna get owned by couple of them casting magic attack :P).
For any further questions let me know and i will try to answer best way i can b:victory .[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
So for axe Bms, when they AoE grind they go and pull agro from loads of enemies, that then chase them. But 'cos magic mobs use range they won't chase the Bm cos they pwn from far away. So how does the Bm round them all up?0
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DSB_SPARTAN - Sanctuary wrote: »So for axe Bms, when they AoE grind they go and pull agro from loads of enemies, that then chase them. But 'cos magic mobs use range they won't chase the Bm cos they pwn from far away. So how does the Bm round them all up?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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As a rule of thumb. You do not aoe magic mobs.
When you get into your 6x's you look at sanctuary. Get into Zhen groups. Learn how to lure. Gain levels. Grab a cleric AoE grind with out full group. Gain Levels. Soon Cleric isn't really needed just a plus. You go and own on your own. Once you reach level 7x's. There are plenty of pure physical mobs for you to pick from.b:victoryRetired
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many skills to deal with magic mobs 1v1.
you can start by leaping back or tiger leap towards the mob, by doing that the first magic attack does not happen.
The second attack, is either cancelled with stun skills like: roar of the pride, drake bash. or cancell with shadowless kick or genie skill lightning strike.
Another skill not too effective is to use a knockback skill to take the mob out of mag range and then tiger leap towards him.
You can even kill several magic mobs at once if they close to each other. If you leap back towards them (avoiding first mag attack). AOE skills and prior they do the next mag attack you use roar of the pride to stun them all. Then AOE again.0 -
aww man AoE grinding ain't gonna be as much pwnage as I thought QQ.'It is Like a finger pointing to the moon...Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.'
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_Big_Boss - Sanctuary wrote: »aww man AoE grinding ain't gonna be as much pwnage as I thought QQ.
it is. There are many mobs to grind. A level 60 krauftis scouts are good mobs to grind. As they are slow and the drops are great.0 -
Now I remember why I chose Axe BM
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsnJ-kbCUnY&feature=related'It is Like a finger pointing to the moon...Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.'
-Bruce Lee-
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Shadowless Kick cancels magic spells. It's in the fist tree. It can be used unarmed. Use it.0
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There's so many ****ing pure physical mobs that honestly aoeing magical mobs is a waste of time lmao.
Is just like telling a robes mage to grind on physical mobs! b:laugh
Soloing magic mobs is fine, just cancel their magic with stuns. And they are squishy so, really fast and easy.
Your magic marrow is fine to take up to lvl 4, more then that and your pdef gets too reduced and vice versa... Either way, if you have decent HP at your lvl you can survive a few magic attacks till you can stun mob. So it's really easy, just gotta learn how to use your skills >.>0 -
Granrey - Sanctuary wrote: »many skills to deal with magic mobs 1v1.
you can start by leaping back or tiger leap towards the mob, by doing that the first magic attack does not happen.
The second attack, is either cancelled with stun skills like: roar of the pride, drake bash. or cancell with shadowless kick or genie skill lightning strike.
Another skill not too effective is to use a knockback skill to take the mob out of mag range and then tiger leap towards him.
You can even kill several magic mobs at once if they close to each other. If you leap back towards them (avoiding first mag attack). AOE skills and prior they do the next mag attack you use roar of the pride to stun them all. Then AOE again.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
WickedSwords - Heavens Tear wrote: »Hmmm...okay you do realize that by doing leap back and forward you waste your chi and doing quite nonsensical stuff...is it not pretty simple(if you fight 1vs1 magical mob) to just use cloud sprint to come to melee range and just stun him with either aeolian blade or tiger roar?And then just continue with melee DD on him till he starts casting mag. att. again and you redo all over again the procedure of stun(but its most likely that mob will die before he gets a chance to start casting second time his mag.att. and that way not only you don't waste your chi much on jumping forward and backward wasting your time to hit the darn mob you are making enough of chi for daimond sutra to replenish your hp if its below 50% as well.
did you actually read my posts? I mentioned the stuns skills. b:chuckle
I just wanted to mention all the tools.
check your math.
my technique:
1 first atack, leap back: chi 15, time: instant
2nd attack: shadowless kick (most bm have this skill to level 1): mana 65, time 1.4 secs
after all said and done, I use 15 chi and 65 mana, skills time: 1.4 secs.
your technique:
1 first attack, cloud sprint (most bm have at least 5): 40 mana, time: instant
2nd attack, roar of the pride (most bm have at least level 3): 64.7 mana, 35 chi, skills time: 1.8 secs
after all said and done: 35 chi, 104.7 mana, time:1.8 secs.
your techinique use twice resourses as mineb, keep in mind that I might kill the mob prior next mag attack which means, the entire cost would be 35 chi, 0 mana and 0 skill time:chuckle
saying that, this is just a matter of preference.b:pleased
I have used cloud sprint in these situations but I dont like it as I prefer to use to excape in case another mobs spawn next to me while fighting.0 -
I forgot to add, that I prefer to do magic mobs in fists as fists allows to create more chi for drake bash (axes) and because shadowless will be most likely my choice for second attack.
Also, fists is more likely to cancell mag attacks by regular attacks.
Again, as explain above bms can deal with magic mobs with any weapons as we have many skills to deal with them.0 -
Am a pure sword/blade build BM and truth to be told i never had trouble with getting chi the way i explained (roar of pride was preference i did said aeolian blade as the primary choice of stun.)
As for chi and mana math you did am not quite concerned about mana since that one i got plenty(mana pot ftw) and as for chi after the mob is stunned by aeolian(or if by chance someone uses roar of pride)you have enough time to do at least 3x melee hits which is enough to make up for the lost chi you casted.
Honestly i never found any serious use in leap forward since cloud spirit does fine job in getting me into close combat with magic mob pretty fast if am in a long range as for leap back its neat skill for avoiding any crowded spots(tho truth is i rarely used it as well since i didn't had much trouble with dealing with magical mobs(magical marrow lvl7)).[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
WickedSwords - Heavens Tear wrote: »Am a pure sword/blade build BM and truth to be told i never had trouble with getting chi the way i explained (roar of pride was preference i did said aeolian blade as the primary choice of stun.)
As for chi and mana math you did am not quite concerned about mana since that one i got plenty(mana pot ftw) and as for chi after the mob is stunned by aeolian(or if by chance someone uses roar of pride)you have enough time to do at least 3x melee hits which is enough to make up for the lost chi you casted.
Honestly i never found any serious use in leap forward since cloud spirit does fine job in getting me into close combat with magic mob pretty fast if am in a long range as for leap back its neat skill for avoiding any crowded spots(tho truth is i rarely used it as well since i didn't had much trouble with dealing with magical mobs(magical marrow lvl7)).
well, I was just trying to explain that you mentioned that leap back would be consuming too much chi.
regarding magical marrow, I rarely use this skill. I only use it for pure magical mobs, which I have not found any in long time. For pure magical, I liked to use LA (I used to carry two sets of armor at lower levelsb:chuckle).
Most of the mobs I find, are mobs that have physical attack with magical cycle. So since I will aim to block all their magical attacks. I have marrow physical on, to reduce their physical attack and reduce hp loss in the long term.
What I dont like to do is to have marrow magical on, since you will still take some magical damage plus the physical damage will be increased.
but again thats just a matter of preference.0 -
My bad i forgot to mention if there are multiply magic mobs who cast on you to raise mag.marrow if its 1vs1 then i don't use any marrow at all since stun+pure melee on them works fine.
But LA is fine idea as well (tho personally am not too much fond of switching stuff in during the battle so am sticking with usual layout of my gear and weaponry.)
All in all key to successfully fighting any magical mob is to disrupt their casting with stun and then make an opener with melee or any skill you got :P(tho using skill is not recommended if you wanna save your mana).
Anyhow try out the best style it suits you XD.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
yes believe me aoe grinding gives tons of experience if you have the patience to grind for hours on end. you are able to aoe grind at 4x. If you go southwest of sundown town. west of city of lost there are mobs that look like little munchkins...lol i forget the names but ya, the dont aggro so you have to aoe a group of them..then run to another group. make sure you keep aggro though. its best at 4x to grind in a party of 2-4. when you hit 6x go east of sanctuary and start aoe grinding on seaweed thieves. that is a perfect aoe spot. when you hit 7x go to nightscream island and start aoe'ing there. at 8x west of camp of intrepid aoe grind on spiders till your 90. when your 90 either go to hell and aoe grind or aoe grind Ants up at avalanche canyon b:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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