When perfect world is a perfect ......

MadaraUchiiw - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Perhabs it will be cool if the devs do things more than changing the UI
Perfect world is calling like that because of housing so if i didn't see it i
was .
Finding games which are 10 000 better than your sheat that you call perfect world , i don't think that resting in this game will be a good thing.
Look to allods online , runes of magic , C9 , Tera ...
All those games are better than perfect world and it is for one reason :
The developpors want money without doing anything for the gamers.
All the patches are for cash shop users.
All the patches are (adding new mount of 50$-adding Dragon ob 6 for 25 $)
Is that possible ?
You're calling it F2P with micro transcration or the more exepensive mmorpg in the world.
You know i want one thing , the destruction of this server .
Perfect world had a very good "potentiel" but you PWE destruct this and you change perfect world to perfect boring.
You have to remember that we are gamers and not (des portes feuilles).
If you don't agree with that i prefer quiting the game before being banned by an idiot of GM who bought the last BMW last night.

Bye perfect .......

Bye, have fun, can you please mail me your items before you delete your character?

SPC_Senge - Dreamweaver wrote: »

hmm, the changes are only for the cash shop users? this guy's got a point, but it's nothing to quit over. he's either overreacting, or the changes being only for cash shop users hit a nerve somewhere(maybe this guy can barely afford the comp he's using???)

People will complain over anything.... This is the only game I know where you can get all the items in the cash shop in-game as well, making it the most balanced game I ever played between cash shop users and non-cash shop users...

The problem I see is the all "entitlement generation", they think they are entitled to everything without having to do or spend anything. In this game you have two choices, you use your wallet to get stuff, or you grind to get stuff. Money, in this game, only allows you to skip some of the grinding, since everyone has access to all the items from cash shop in game....

MadaraUchiiw - Heavens Tear wrote: »

When you will see [other game] for exemple , i will know that the CS of PWI is the wrost CS ever.
Cash=power , it is the best fault of F2P
In [removed] online for exemple :
Cash =time

The stuff , runes (dragon orbs in PWI) , charmes and more must be available in game without money because when we saw that the golden charm=400k
or the hercule = 20K=200$ ; i prefer spend my money in a the best mmorpg created , ****.

And you , i know you're lvl 80 but you steel being a noob for accepting that.
b:bye

I have played pretty much most of the MMOs out there, and PWI cash shop, is by far the best one. Also as I mentioned, PWI is one of the only games that allow for all the items in Cash shop to be sold in-game, so that makes it very leveled.

However, where you spend your money is your choice, so spend it where it makes you happy.

PS - Does this mean you are not sending me your items?

hmm, okay i can see where this guy is coming from.
However heres a different way to see it:

Stop focusing on changing the cash shop in patches, and start adding new things.
I know that youre starting to do that, with the new daily quest and the blessings feature.

But here is something that is beginning to bother me.
I'm level 68 now, and when i level i get 2 or so quests.
it takes me about 850k of exp to level up.

so it takes a long time to level up, and after ive done my 2 quests, there isnt much to be done, apart from grind & help with kimsa (seriously done it like 20 times)

You've made things that, i guess, are supposed to help this problem, e.g. cube of fate & RB's
but RB's basically REQUIRE a charm for clerics and i havent tried the cube yet, maybe i should give it a go.

Thing is that for me, its 90% grinding now, and it gets boring.
Maybe new patches should introduce more new quests, more to do.

I've spoken to friends who play world of ********. And i was confused about why they would pay a subscription for a game. They explained to me, that they dont mind because the game is constantly changing, new quests & worlds being added.

Now i know PW doesnt have the same userbase or financial support as wow, but i think that you should try and follow this sort of path.

The PW map hasnt changed since i started, the "world" is exactly as it always has been. I make a new character, and I'm doing the same quests as before. More content has to be added, new quests, different places, different monsters. Because just adding new mounts into the game, isnt adding content, its just a new picture to ride around on - where you go is the same, and what you do is the same.


BUT - you need money, i can see and accept that, developers dont work for nothing & server expenses arent small!
So continue the cash shop, maybe you should make a few things cheaper - like he said it's $4 for a charm - expensive when they run out in a day - just to try and make people more willing to buy things.
Add more things in there & get yourself some money - mounts, weapons, armour, player skins, weapon skins maybe replace some of the things that have been there for ages.

I mean: people will want different things, i dont really want somebody to be on exactly the same mount as me. So add more of a selection. Maybe make the cash shop more web based, so that you can update it without having to release a patch. And have it constantly changing.

I have bought things from the cash shop, and do intend to in the future - to contribute more than anything. But i'd be much more inclined to buy something if there was more to choose from (and no that doesnt mean add a $50 for 2 days)

MadaraUchiiw - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You know , why the forum erase the names of games i quote.
look to X and you will see what we can call a cs.
I think you're the best noob in the world because you think that the cs of PW is the best in the world because the F2P you have played are x and x.
Look also to x and x and x and you will see that PW is the wrost game ever created because he is corrupted by the cash more than in other F2P who are in fact bad but the cash shop isn't as expensive and essentiel as PW.
PS:If you send me a kirin , i will send you my items ^^

But since you are quiting you do not need the kirin... or you just threatening to quit and actualy still play?

We can spend the rest of the year debating the merits of the cash shop in PWI compared to other games, however, there is really no point.

One of two things will happen:
1: You keep on complaining and threatening to quit but you will still stay and play, since you are waiting on something better to come along
2: You will delete your character, uninstall the game and take your money somewhere else.

You alone have the power to decide which of the two to do.

I just think the cashshop is farrrrrrfarfarfarfar too damn expensive. I'm a wiz. When I get to a higher level I'll probably be going through an MP charm a day. You're trying to tell me you expect me to pay 4 dollars a day? Thats outrageous. Now on LC people are selling gold for about 150-180k even, and a charm isnt 400k anymore, now its about 600k each if you'd like to buy gold with in game coin. You claim to have such a great F2P game, yet in order to play, you need to cash shop sooner or later. That's faulty advertising, I'm sorry to say. My friend recently got his wiz to 6x and he says he uses a charm in about a day and a half. In that time of grinding with it, its not like he makes back that 450k he spent on the charm.. It's just a continuous system of losing coin.

-starts up game to look in shop and find more insane prices-

CLOTHES! Probably one of your biggest money makers I'm sure! Lets take the new superstar set for example:

Top: 4$-18 pigments
Bottom: 4$-3 pigments
Boots: 2$-3 pigments
Gloves: 2$-1 pigments

Total of 12$...

Thats randomly colored too, probably not the colors you want. In total, you need 25 pigments to dye it. Thats another 12.50$...But whoever gets 25 pigments that they want their clothes to be? No one? Exactly..

I can keep going..But I think the idea is pretty clear. About 24$ or more for a set of virtual clothes? Cmon..

Theres so many other things that are just outrageously priced that I don't even feel like listing, but I will anyways:

Angels (im on a pk server, theyre a must have, but I'm not spending 2.40$ to die 10 times and not lose anything), resets-especially genie resets, mounts/flyers (40 dollar boa? yeah I bought it, but it's such a waste it's not even funny)

Hemoglobin - Lost City wrote: »

I just think the cashshop is farrrrrrfarfarfarfar too damn expensive. I'm a wiz. When I get to a higher level I'll probably be going through an MP charm a day. You're trying to tell me you expect me to pay 4 dollars a day? Thats outrageous. Now on LC people are selling gold for about 150-180k even, and a charm isnt 400k anymore, now its about 600k each if you'd like to buy gold with in game coin. You claim to have such a great F2P game, yet in order to play, you need to cash shop sooner or later. That's faulty advertising, I'm sorry to say. My friend recently got his wiz to 6x and he says he uses a charm in about a day and a half. In that time of grinding with it, its not like he makes back that 450k he spent on the charm.. It's just a continuous system of losing coin.

-starts up game to look in shop and find more insane prices-

CLOTHES! Probably one of your biggest money makers I'm sure! Lets take the new superstar set for example:

Top: 4$-18 pigments
Bottom: 4$-3 pigments
Boots: 2$-3 pigments
Gloves: 2$-1 pigments

Total of 12$...

Thats randomly colored too, probably not the colors you want. In total, you need 25 pigments to dye it. Thats another 12.50$...But whoever gets 25 pigments that they want their clothes to be? No one? Exactly..

I can keep going..But I think the idea is pretty clear. About 24$ or more for a set of virtual clothes? Cmon..

Theres so many other things that are just outrageously priced that I don't even feel like listing, but I will anyways:

Angels (im on a pk server, theyre a must have, but I'm not spending 2.40$ to die 10 times and not lose anything), resets-especially genie resets, mounts/flyers (40 dollar boa? yeah I bought it, but it's such a waste it's not even funny)

Clothes are a luxary item, they do not add anything to your game play, except eye candy. Same with mounts. You get a free one and you can buy a horse from in-game NPC.

The angels part, that is more of a pvp thing, for me a pack of 10 will last me months, but I do not have to worry about getting ganked 10 times a day or dropping items...

Genie resets are way over the top, in my opinion, specialy since we did not have enough information in the beginning to make the right choices. However, unless you only figure that out once your genie hit level 80, it will be cheaper to just get a new one, trash your old one, and move the exp to the new one (even if you loose some).

The shop only makes things easier (well, except angels, you really have no way around that one).
A cleric from my guild can do TT runs including BB without using MP charms, just by using apoc pots and other mp regain items. We have done all of the 2-x series with him and he has never worn a MP charm.
Obviously he spends alot of time collecting herbs to make apoc pots, but he does not use a charm at all. My last few runs, not even the barb had a HP charm, so it can be done, cash shop just makes it easier.

However, this is from a pve server perspective, I know some of the needs are not the same on a pvp server....

I'm not sure what the complaint is to be honest. I mean I can get through 90% of the game content without using the cash shop at all. All charms do is to allow me to do more dangerous things without dying. It's entirely possible to not use any cash shop items and it will not gimp you the slightest. Not to mention that you can get those items via in game coins. I mean is fashion, mounts, better flying gear absolutely necessary? The pw cash shop are like Honor students compared to some of the ones I've seen: those with items, including fashion, that have time limit for example.

People complain about legendary pets being expensive, not having all the mounts, not having all the fashion yet when you do get them you (on sale or not) complain about not improving game play and game content. I do agree on the expensive part but cash shops are unnecessary.

If you ever went to the CN forum to read some of the posts there, you'll actually see that they ARE doing something although not a doing good enough job. They do respond to the players. Why do you think they introduce the new skill balance for bms and the skill upgrades for barbs? Because they are being murdered by the ranged classes. They didn't do that to mess up the game deliberately.

Do you know that extreme poison used to amplify 100% damage, tree of protection used to heal full hp instantly, undine strike used to be instant cast? The devs changed this so that the classes would be more balanced. Granted it's mostly about pvp balancing but do not assume that they are doing nothing.

According to a gamer on the CN version, the devs are trying to lower the difficulty of Frostland on September since it's so damn hard that no one even bothers trying. The addition of the blessings are to help dungens like those be more approachable.

But yes pw lost A LOT of potential if what I've heard from the CN version is true. The map right now is only 1/6 of the size of the map the original designers have in mind. The 6 classes are designed so that they each have unique ways to use their skills (bm's chain stun is an example). Of course that it is not the case now since the original devs have been disbanded.

I'll end this by leaving a rumor coming from the TW forums: the CN version might be getting a new race sometime this year. Their starting area is said to be somewhere the south of dreamweaver (hence why the south part of the map becomes more extended after the lost empire expansion).
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If it works well we might have our first underwater fb since it looks like the new race is some kind of fish people. And we might get an assasin class (not sure).

Seablue - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm not sure what the complaint is to be honest. I mean I can get through 90% of the game content without using the cash shop at all. All charms do is to allow me to do more dangerous things without dying. It's entirely possible to not use any cash shop items and it will not gimp you the slightest. Not to mention that you can get those items via in game coins. I mean is fashion, mounts, better flying gear absolutely necessary? The pw cash shop are like Honor students compared to some of the ones I've seen: those with items, including fashion, that have time limit for example.

People complain about legendary pets being expensive, not having all the mounts, not having all the fashion yet when you do get them you (on sale or not) complain about not improving game play and game content. I do agree on the expensive part but cash shops are unnecessary.

If you ever went to the CN forum to read some of the posts there, you'll actually see that they ARE doing something although not a doing good enough job. They do respond to the players. Why do you think they introduce the new skill balance for bms and the skill upgrades for barbs? Because they are being murdered by the ranged classes. They didn't do that to mess up the game deliberately.

Do you know that extreme poison used to amplify 100% damage, tree of protection used to heal full hp instantly, undine strike used to be instant cast? The devs changed this so that the classes would be more balanced. Granted it's mostly about pvp balancing but do not assume that they are doing nothing.

According to a gamer on the CN version, the devs are trying to lower the difficulty of Frostland on September since it's so damn hard that no one even bothers trying. The addition of the blessings are to help dungens like those be more approachable.

But yes pw lost A LOT of potential if what I've heard from the CN version is true. The map right now is only 1/6 of the size of the map the original designers have in mind. The 6 classes are designed so that they each have unique ways to use their skills (bm's chain stun is an example). Of course that it is not the case now since the original devs have been disbanded.

I'll end this by leaving a rumor coming from the TW forums: the CN version might be getting a new race sometime this year. Their starting area is said to be somewhere the south of dreamweaver (hence why the south part of the map becomes more extended after the lost empire expansion).
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If it works well we might have our first underwater fb since it looks like the new race is some kind of fish people. And we might get an assasin class (not sure).

The new class is all well and good, but really irrelivent to the topic. I'm not saying developers aren't doing anything for the players, I actually enjoy how they run the game, just that prices are outrageous for the cash shop. Maybe a BM doesnt need cash shop but if you're a wiz without a charm on lost city, just lay down and act dead. You will be soon. And another thing I left out was refineing is pretty expensive too. Yeah, you can be an 8x wizzy and not refine a thing, but if you'd like to be any bit as good as other classes, refines are essential. Ive never refined a thing, but someone told me without orbs its an impossible endeavor.

But believe me, if there are going to be new classes, I'll reroll asap!

Hemoglobin - Lost City wrote: »

It just comes to a point that prices like that are somewhat criminal when I could go to the dollar store and buy a complete outfit for less than I spend on a virtual set of clothes. I don't have a job, i'm only 17.. I plan to pk, so I have no idea what I'm going to do for angels when it comes to that. Now that they have it so bound gear can shatter, theres no point really in doing that anymore. And who doesn't like easy? Honestly, if they reduced some of the prices on things I bet they'd make more money because more people would use it. I know I would rather spend 2 dollars on a gold charm than 4.. And especially on LC right now (im not sure what gold prices are on other servers) they should really add something so that there is a set gold price, 100k each. 150-180k for gold is insane. Say you want a upgraded panther, 20 gold x 150k = 3m just to buy it, then you turn around to sell it and it only goes for 1.5m coin. It's something where I don't want to leave because the game is so fun, but it's just not fun with the prices for things to be a little easier.

That is the problem with pvp in pwi, there is no way to pay for itself... other games you drop everything when you get killed, so you can actualy make a living just pking, in pwi, you really have to grind or use real money to be able to really pvp, or to get the cool stuff.

Other versions of PW, that have been around for over 3 years, gold is trading at 400k coins per gold unit. So the current amount is still not insane, just border line ridiculous.

if you dont wonna pay the price: just dont buy it.
honestly i dont think anybody really agrees with the price of gold atm.

So just dont buy it, if nobody buys it prices will be forced back to something more reasonable.
The alternative is to sell gold at 100k yourself, nobody will buy the expensive gold so they will also lower their prices.

People are greedy, they will try to get as much as they can as opposed to what is fair or what they need. But accepting that price, and buying it is what makes them think that they can and is also what will drive them to charge more.