Mysterious Merchant price change?

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  • swgs
    swgs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Sacredxstar - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I hope this is a glitch. I've spent a fortune on my sky demon pearl last week.

    ~7.8m for the mold

    Then a guildie comes up to me and says they have a premade one +5 that they will sell me for 8.5m. I got it. I was trying to resell the mold that I got before with no luck yet, and now this!?

    I also know a few people in my guild who are upset with this. Economy has gone whack.

    lucky me, almost bought one last night, I offered 6m for the mold, but the seller do not want to go any lower then 7m
  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The only people who are mad are those whose assets lost value.

    Like people who gamble on stocks. Sometimes they make a profit, sometimes they loose.
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  • Shart - Dreamweaver
    Shart - Dreamweaver Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I'm not complaining. This is a very nice thing to do, for us to be able to get molds easier now. Considering we'll never get warsouls.
  • Kazue - Heavens Tear
    Kazue - Heavens Tear Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Like people who gamble on stocks. Sometimes they make a profit, sometimes they loose.

    A better comparsion would be people buying electronics a week or so before the manufacture lower price. People are pissed when manufacture lower price by 30% after purchase. Now if the manufacture lower price by 90%... they are going to be more pissed customers.
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Kazue - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    A better comparsion would be people buying electronics a week or so before the manufacture lower price. People are pissed when manufacture lower price by 30% after purchase. Now if the manufacture lower price by 90%... they are going to be more pissed customers.

    But only those who brought before.b:victory
  • Kazue - Heavens Tear
    Kazue - Heavens Tear Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »
    But only those who brought before.b:victory

    Early adaptors are responsible for later sales. they are the ones on the street using the gadget for the massive to see. without them, sale would plummet.
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Kazue - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Early adaptors are responsible for later sales. they are the ones on the street using the gadget for the massive to see. without them, sale would plummet.

    Yeah, that's why there are so few early adopters.b:chuckle
  • Kazue - Heavens Tear
    Kazue - Heavens Tear Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yeah, that's why there are so few early adopters.b:chuckle

    have you seem the lines for the iphone on the first day. but i guess that what aapl gets for sending a $100 credit to people who bought their product 2 weeks before they lower the price. more early adopters... more sales.
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It seems all mold prices have been normalized.

    All weapons are now about the same chip cost.

    Same with armor and ornaments.

    There is not much difference in cost between a misty forest ring and a heavenly lord ring.

    Overall I think the new prices are an improvement.
    its not what id call normalized, demon slaughter is a 1.27% chance from fats... compare to heavenly lord, which has like an 88% drop rate from phlebo.

    rares should still cost more.
  • Miss_Tika - Lost City
    Miss_Tika - Lost City Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    lol.. say hello to a dying economy...

    thanks PW, i just spent a fortune on my sky demon.

    Same here. Paid 6 mil for one 3 days ago and found out its cheap as dirt this morning. Apparently this was also a problem on the CN servers?
    xarfox wrote: »
    Hey Everyone,

    The answer is pretty straight forward. In the coming weeks a new NPC will be added to the game, the Bounty Hunter. This NPC will provide players with a new daily quest to kill different bosses within the game for extra EXP/rewards. The highest tier of rewards includes stacks of chips, hence the increased cost for some items.

    Phew, pretty refreshing not having to be vague for once. ;)

    That still doesn't explain why generally expensive items are now cheap as hell.
  • TheGoliath - Heavens Tear
    TheGoliath - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I can't say anything except that I wasted 2M on fb89 wines and now I already bought evert mold for 700k <_>
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Miss_Tika - Lost City wrote: »
    Same here. Paid 6 mil for one and found out its cheap as dirt this morning. Apparently this was also a problem on the CN servers?

    Lol....never buy right before or after a patch or update.

    However, I am very happy about this because now it is more $$ to spend on refinement b:cute

    * Although IF I has been one of the people "screwed" I would be mad too. Like some of the people who did not know about the change and started buying up the AH after maintenance.
    TheGoliath - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I can't say anything except that I wasted 2M on fb89 wines and now I already bought evert mold for 700k <_>

    2 mill?!!! OMG.....way to much
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  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    its not what id call normalized, demon slaughter is a 1.27% chance from fats... compare to heavenly lord, which has like an 88% drop rate from phlebo.

    rares should still cost more.
    fact remains still though!

    misty is like a 5% from linus at that too! rares should have a moderate price, not cut them to 90% of their original!
  • TheGoliath - Heavens Tear
    TheGoliath - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    Lol....never buy right before or after a patch or update.

    However, I am very happy about this because now it is more $$ to spend on refinement b:cute

    * Although IF I has been one of the people "screwed" I would be mad too. Like some of the people who did not know about the change and started buying up the AH after maintenance.



    2 mill?!!! OMG.....way to much
    300k every try (so 150k each wine) and I did several try and got chit o,o
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    fact remains still though!

    misty is like a 5% from linus at that too! rares should have a moderate price, not cut them to 90% of their original!

    I agree with you on this.

    Rare items seem to be getting less rare every week.
    TheGoliath - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    300k every try (so 150k each wine) and I did several try and got chit o,o

    Ooooo...ok I thought you meant on just two. Makes more sense!!
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  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    bikinis were one thing, those didnt effect anyone gear wise, but this... now all noobies have a chance to get an even edge in PVP. more archers, BMs, and barbs with misties are bad :|.
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    I agree with you on this.

    Rare items seem to be getting less rare every week.

    So that the rest of us can finally get it? Hey, maybe one day Warsoul will be here.b:chuckle

    This is a good thing, btw, now the reigning guilds with lots of land and money won't be as dominating anymore.
  • Miss_Tika - Lost City
    Miss_Tika - Lost City Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    Lol....never buy right before or after a patch or update.

    Oh so its MY fault? That's nice to know. It's not like these molds just lost basically all value. I mean, what am i thinking.

    Someone made an analogy of a car, well a car doesn't go from 20k to 1k in one day. It gradually drops in price. These molds LITERALLY lost 90% of their value in one day. That has never happend in any update since the server started. (please correct me if i'm wrong)

    So my bad. Next update i'll reconsider buying a 5 mil mount because it might be 100k the next day!
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Its not hard to search around the net to speculate possible updates. =P Some of us knew of these upcoming chip changes as well as their price change to make the mold. The price of the chips are not a problem because as the GM said thers gonna be new NPCs to give us more chances to get chips. You guys should focus on the prices themselves. Some have jacked up more than 1.5M lol
    Expensive things have gone down, and cheap ones have jacked up. They all seem more or less at the same price lvl now. Grats to those who made a move before the change on cheap mold.
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  • Gwendolynne - Heavens Tear
    Gwendolynne - Heavens Tear Posts: 816 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Muahaha, anyone wanna buy a Reqium Blade Mold? b:chuckle
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  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    You know what's interesting? Some people reset to LA just for the cheap armors during certain levels.b:chuckle

    Btw, brought a Requiem blade this morning for 300k, from someone who's late on the news.
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Miss_Tika - Lost City wrote: »
    Oh so its MY fault? That's nice to know. It's not like these molds just lost basically all value. I mean, what am i thinking.

    Someone made an analogy of a car, well a car doesn't go from 20k to 1k in one day. It gradually drops in price. These molds LITERALLY lost 90% of their value in one day. That has never happend in any update since the server started. (please correct me if i'm wrong)

    So my bad. Next update i'll reconsider buying a 5 mil mount because it might be 100k the next day!

    You should know better. There are usually glitches. And I never said it was your fault. No need to be defensive....Zzzzzz

    I just do not relie on the fact there there might now be issues. Besides, look what happened to GA's when people found out Jolly was coming back. Even I have benefited from this.

    Get some dolls and sell = $$ from mold back in a flash. I made 5mill last nite in 10 minutes b:cute
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  • TheGoliath - Heavens Tear
    TheGoliath - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    and I did sell a requiem blade for 400k...

    damn me..
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  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Its not hard to search around the net to speculate possible updates. =P Some of us knew of these upcoming chip changes as well as their price change to make the mold. The price of the chips are not a problem because as the GM said thers gonna be new NPCs to give us more chances to get chips. You guys should focus on the prices themselves. Some have jacked up more than 1.5M lol
    Expensive things have gone down, and cheap ones have jacked up. They all seem more or less at the same price lvl now. Grats to those who made a move before the change on cheap mold.
    so its totally fair to make things with a 1% drop readily avaliable to anyone, and then take things that have incredibly high ones and make them the same price?

    god, sea captains should NOT be the same price as sky demons.
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    so its totally fair to make things with a 1% drop readily avaliable to anyone, and then take things that have incredibly high ones and make them the same price?

    god, sea captains should NOT be the same price as sky demons.

    Agreed...but maybe this is just a lead way into new and better armor?

    b:surrender
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    so its totally fair to make things with a 1% drop readily avaliable to anyone, and then take things that have incredibly high ones and make them the same price?

    god, sea captains should NOT be the same price as sky demons.

    Are you sure the percentages are that much different? In my experience all molds (except those impossible ones) have about the same drop rate (~8%) and the difference in price is just from differences in demand and chip cost.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Gwendolynne - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Muahaha, anyone wanna buy a Reqium Blade Mold? b:chuckle
    b:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckle high five lol
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    so its totally fair to make things with a 1% drop readily avaliable to anyone, and then take things that have incredibly high ones and make them the same price?

    god, sea captains should NOT be the same price as sky demons.
    I dunno... lol seems fair enough for peeps who did their homework to speculate upcoming changes and took the risk XD
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  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Are you sure the percentages are that much different? In my experience all molds (except those impossible ones) have about the same drop rate (~8%) and the difference in price is just from differences in demand and chip cost.
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/mob/8220
    idk, i just memorize this and quote it like my bible?
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/mob/8220
    idk, i just memorize this and quote it like my bible?

    Well that is a per item drop rate but fats tends to drop like 10 items so the actual drop rate of getting at least one mold is higher.

    To tell the truth though I don't trust the RNG in this game at all. It always seems overly lopsided and not truly random. Maybe its psychological.
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    so its totally fair to make things with a 1% drop readily avaliable to anyone, and then take things that have incredibly high ones and make them the same price?

    god, sea captains should NOT be the same price as sky demons.

    Yes, this seems fair. Why would it be unfair?

    You have two different sources of items. One source has a high output, the other has a low output. And players can access either of them. How is this unfair?

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