Desperate? Sale or Greed?

In this very last patch there is hidden content update for the expansion that's coming out soon. You don't hear them crowing about it in the announcement because they'll do that when everything's done. In the meantime, they are earning their paychecks (funded by the Cash Shop) by attending to our concerns in the forums, answering support tickets, fixing the bugs that are revealed, and developing new content. Like the new expansion, which will be the third one to come out in roughly 12 months.

Pay to Play often doesn't have that many expansions. And it certaining isn't free - you have to pay your subscription fee, the money you paid for the first disk, AND the money you pay for the expansion disk.

Here, you get all that for free. And it's because people buy from the Cash Shop. Bottom line is, PWE is a business. And they have bills to pay. You don't have to be the one to help them pay them but I'm quite glad for the people who do

The point isn't to win, its to have fun. **** winning/losing, that's irrelevant. Most people cheat to win anyway.

Blancheneige - Heavens Tear wrote: »

There is at least another option : free to play funded by player donations.

There is at least one game that run with this economic model.

Zen purchasing is like donations, considering that you can grind for in game money to buy boutique items

Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »

Are we still on the origianal topic because I thuoght we were able to derail this about 3 pages ago.

I guess we were discussing the player side of "Sale or Greed." You're right, though. It was off topic. It's my bad for making the first post about it.

On topic: I don't see what the complaint about a sale is all about. Sales are a normal part of business. I do believe that rare items should stay rare or simply be changed to normal cash shop stuff. I've also wondered why the new mounts are all rares with the same selection offered in the shop. What's the reason for that? People should be able to purchase with more variety. That's like offering no new fashion stuff. I can understand the frustration. Anyway, that's my two cents.

heavenlee wrote: »

I think the WHOLE of the matter was lost in the mix. I like CS items, I like that they have NEW items. I do not like when they flood them in at once. Makes it unbalanced. Also I have a Umm complaint, Why have new content new CS items. BUT NO DAMN IN GAME EVENTS OTHER THEN GM MADE UP ONE'S?? Do I want some of the new items? Not really, Does johnny or amy want it? Maybe. There call. But this game and many others live and die by there customers and many customers are not happy. There are many reasons they are unhappy. I am unhappy from lack of GM involvement in known hackers and botters not being dealt with. Lack of enjoyable events. And lastly the new content or items they bring out causing memory leaks and simple fixes not even done. ( like a toggle to show genies or not would solve about 30% of the memory leaks).
So FLAME ON b:angry

1. I agree.
2. People have always complained about these things with unanimous agreement.
3. These issues have never changed even slightly.

Happy gaming. b:bye

b:victoryb:victory

eatwithspoons wrote: »

Zen purchasing is like donations, considering that you can grind for in game money to buy boutique items
Most awesome. This is the first ever MMO I've played that was F2P that did this. PPL don't realize how lucky they are to buy CS items in game. Not to mention in the others you couldn't even TRADE the items, let alone sell them. Rock ON PWI!!!

eatwithspoons wrote: »

I'm going to have to disagree about GMs addressing reported players. We don't ban for a first offense, so we rely on players to report repeat offenders.

I'd agree, doesn't seem like a real functional policy. I worked as mod for an F2P (there was an option to purchase stronger weapons, a house, etc.) single player game for quite a while, where hacking (which only benefited you, as there was no PvP aspect) was punished swiftly on the first offense with a permanent ban... b:bye

People didn't **** very much.

BratFury - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You guys are nitpicking spoons words. That wasn't set in stone as what they do. But could you imagine someone who curses (uses vulgar language) which is against TOS getting a perm ban?

I never said such a ludicrous thing.

It was specifically stated by heavenlee that known hackers and botters are not banned; this isn't a secret.

Spoons replied saying that they don't ban anyone on the first offense.

heavenlee wrote: »

BUT why in the hell would you give anyone a chance who hacks and cheats?

Cash shop users?

I saw some players bot, reported them, saw them banned for a few days and then they came back botting again on the same spot. More than once.

Since then, I simply stopped reporting botters, it's a waste of time.

IMO people will never be happy when they release stuff.When they dont realease stuff people complain.When they actually release stuff and even cut down prices and have a zhen sale people still complain. So wat exactly do u want the DEVs to do?

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »

temp bans are more common than you guys think, even blizzard only gives 48 hr bans on bots on wow for 1st time offenders. either way its better than stupid gravity interactive's policy on botting. if there is ONE botter caught in your guild, they ban the entire guild on grounds of 'benefitting from 3rd party programs.'

i would rather see a bot temp banned hoping theyll get the message, rather than entire groups of people banned for it.

Agreed. And the fact that it's p2p, except for... one crappy server I've yet to try but don't hear anything god about, doesn't help much.

QQless.

10char

....free to play? that becomes questionable, with the incredible pressure to buy items, some of which become almost manditory, the higher the players level...

FatherTed - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It's still WAY better than any other f2p MMO I have played.