pure int pve

A lot of robe players run terrible gear. TT1-3 soulbanisher ticks my charm maybe 1-2 times at the end, and I've completed RB Gamma. I have 3840 hp with barb buff, and a 51% pdef reduction with just Stone Barrier. Those are more than enough, actually.

Don't settle for trash like Steppenwolf Cape, just get good pdef and hp adds. Also, use pdef ornaments, not terrible -% chan ones.

It's almost 4k hp, but it was lower when I fought Soulbanisher, and it's nowhere near the 5k hp "needed" for Rebirth.

51% pdef might be high, but that's only because people don't take the time to look around for good robe gear. I have a couple pieces with 3 hp/pdef adds, the rest have just 2--I'd be looking to upgrade the bad ones if I wasn't so close to 90. I shard average citrines, and I've +2'd most of my gear by now. Oh, and I ran Sakyamuni's Light and now Yaksa, those give a nice boost.

Again, this is just my own experience, but with careful attention to gear, some jiaozi, and good genie skills (blood clot is key), it's really no problem for a pure wizard to survive the double wave, the final RB boss, or any of the other "tough" physical damage situations.

I read the boards all the time, but I've never actually posted before. >.>

At this point, I'm tired of hearing this **** about robe wiz not being able to manage the things an LA wiz can. I'm a pure int wiz lvl 82 with 5 vit (with gear off). After you hit lvl 80, you can get nearly the same hp and pdef as any LA wiz.

I'm wearing spirit eater chest, legs, and boots. BAM! Unrefined thats an additional 360hp. Refined to where mine are, I get 740 hp. No, they're not cheap to get and refine, but I haven't spent a dime of real money on PWI and I still have 15mil in the bank. You just have to know what you're doing. My hp is now at 3420 unbuffed. My physical reduction is 71% with cleric buff, BM buff, and lvl 10 earth barrier.

At level 70 I was doing 1-3 soulbanisher WITHOUT a charm tick. Any good robe wiz knows he/she needs to be wearing pdef ornaments and have a seperate set of gear for phys aoe TT and FB bosses. Do you have 10 dex? Manufacture a set of mithril legs. Thats over 250 pdef right there. They're a freaking pair of lvl 3 heavy legs, but even my 80 gear can't get pdef like that. Look in AH for some sleeves of blood. I used to wear a set that had 3 pdef mods (+45 each) and I added 2 average garnets for some more. I just looked on sanctuary server, there are 3 sets with 2 phys def mods right now for under 50K!

I've finished over 15 rebirths as well, so anyone who says they only take LA wizards need to rethink what they're doing. My lvl 10 DB and lvl 10 fire mastery gives me an average of 400 (600 metal wave) extra damage per hit to mobs. Get bloodclot and tree of protection on your genie and you're fine. I only use lvl 80 pots in conjunction with those 2 skills. My last 3 rebirths I've finished without a death, YES, that includes double wave. Dew doesn't work for wiz in that stage. Use tranquilizing orb instead. 8 secs of no damage > 3K absorbed damage. Having trouble aoe'ing the lanterns after 2nd boss? Get earthquake on your genie. Between that and the archer's aoe knockback skill, I tick maybe 3 or 4 times and clear the whole room in 6 mins.

In the end, its not about LA vs robe - which is better? Its about knowing your character and how to play it. If you're having trouble with something, think about what would help you, then get CREATIVE with ways to fix it (ie. lvl 3 heavy legs).

If you need more help, look me up in-game.
Name: Blosque
Class: PURE INT Wizard
Level: 82
Server: Sanctuary

im going LA for rebirth because i refuse to add vit......
i rather have the extra crit rate, pdef, HP and have sucky normal damage than to just have Hp and sucky normal damage, sucky pdef.

i didnt get TT 70 because +mag resist is kinda useless for an arcane wizard and TT 80 gold is out of the picture since im too lazy to farm gold mats b:surrender

My stats, for the record, and the aid of putting things in perspective: 9vit, 34 str, 305 mag, 5 dex. 1410 unbuffed HP. Unrefined arcane, semi-mundane defensive gear, no phys def or HP shards, at the moment, pure magic defense ornaments (yes, I'm one of the crazies who go with -% channeling). Double Charmed.

Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »

Pure robe wizards can't zhen, can't survive TT aoe, and can't survive RB gamma.

Pure robe wiz can't survive any of these alone. Thankfully, these events come with a party...and usually the party's job is to work together so no one dies. Good teamwork requires that everyone relay on each other to survive the situation at hand, and sometimes, that includes the wiz relaying on the skills of his teammates to survive - not much different than any wiz, honestly.

That said:

Zhen: Cleric stays alive, I stay alive, provided the lurer doesn't drag 50 mobs to me all at once and the archer decides to stop attack then and there...pop an HP if you feel your in trouble, but with a good squad, there's no reason to be dying, pure robe wiz or otherwise.

TT: the only boss's AOE I can't be anywhere near is Soul Banisher, because even with the Cleric's BB, I still get one-shotted. Now, I'm still not useless - I hang in the back and spam Morning Dew at max range...usually when the cleric manages to set BB up in the right place for me to do this on them, otherwise, it's on the archer or veno. Every other boss as far as 2-1 (admittedly, I've never been in a party that went past Wurlord) is peachy for me, required the cleric stays alive, and I'm aware enough to pop an HP pot if I feel I'm in a "danger zone" with my HP.

RB: Gamma I have no experience with, so I won't go there. On the rare occasions I do beta, 80% of the time, the cleric dies before I do, or the barb doesn't do his perceived job correctly (which I'm told is keeping everything off me, but I could be wrong), and I die as a result. The other 10%? I don;t hit a pot in time, the archer dies and I get stuck pulling all his aggro, or I get hit by too many things at once.

In dungeons, overly high spike damage serves nothing other than pulling aggro and result in squad wipe. A wizard's high spike damage is not the same as veno's high dps, which is divided between caster and pet, and is much less likely to pull aggro. Nuke wizards do more harm than good in parties.

Ah, but smart nuke wizards learn quickly and realize when to hold themselves back and when they can go all out...the rest (the ones who are not-so-smart) take a lil longer to figure this out. However, your above statement can be said for the majority of archers, as well, and I've found that, for most, there's very little they can do to curb their damage.

blosk wrote: »

In the end, its not about LA vs robe - which is better? Its about knowing your character and how to play it.

Exactly I like that enough that I may siggy it...

Regarding gamma, I'm with Witch on this one. 1.5K - 2K is perfectly fine for gamma. To be honest, in a good squad, you shouldn't have to worry about pots, tree of protection, or healing of any sort until round 3. Not WAVE 3, but ROUND 3. By then def aura should be high enough that with Stone Barrier, Golden Bell, and cleric buff you should have 7K anyway.

Delta is a different story. Atm, most squads I know doing it are going with 2 archers over wiz and archer in Sanctuary due to the lack of geared wizards. I know one wiz who made it to double wave before dieing and being ported to 1K, but he only did it once and had TT90 sharded with all immac citrine and garnet (1/2 each) refined to +6. For now, I suggest leaving delta alone until you're at least 90. By then, hopefully we'll have a better idea of how to deal with it.

Zhen is completely dependant upon how good your puller is and if he/she knows what you can handle. Pulling 2 less mobs and staying alive is much better than dieing every 3rd pull.

Oh, and thanks Tiaque! It holds true for every class, but wizzy most of all. b:victory