Archer's soulstone

st4roes
st4roes Posts: 4 Arc User
edited July 2009 in Archer
Hi all

i have some question about soul stone

1. do u think it is useful for adding white jade soul stone in our weapon ? some player said that it is useful because we have metal skill, what do u think ? i think it is little bit useful only for in TW or PK , because it can add some bonus damage rather than if we use Fiery-Red Soulstone

2. How about adding Balas Soulstone in our weapon ? is it useful or not ? reminds that we have blazing skill which can add X% fire damage ??

Really big thanx if u guys can give me ur opinion b:victory
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    No and no.


    Our metal attacks take our PHYSICAL damage and convert that into a metal elemental attack. Adding magic of any kind doesn't help them in the least (Think Cleric's Plume shot for another skill that's similar in how it works).

    As for elemental shards.... those only apply to normal attacks and you're honestly better with garnets anyway.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I did some calculations and for low level weapons (< lvl 40 or so), the elemental shards actually do add more since the damage multipliers are still low. After that garnet is best.
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  • Frijolero - Sanctuary
    Frijolero - Sanctuary Posts: 820 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I would recommend infuse gems that adds physical damage, or gems that add accuracy.

    I don't see the usefulness on adding elemental gems on an archer's weapon since we don't do much elemental damage, and as a truekossy said, the skills turn the physical attack in metal attack, making the metal damage shard usefull only when doing those attacks, while the phys gem will work with almost all attacks.
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  • Neltharius - Heavens Tear
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I would recommend infuse gems that adds physical damage, or gems that add accuracy.

    I don't see the usefulness on adding elemental gems on an archer's weapon since we don't do much elemental damage, and as a truekossy said, the skills turn the physical attack in metal attack, making the metal damage shard usefull only when doing those attacks, while the phys gem will work with almost all attacks.

    accuracy for archers ?
    uhm.... no.
    and what do you mean they don't do much elemental damage ?
    archers have more metal attacks than even a cleric
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  • DarkSniper - Lost City
    DarkSniper - Lost City Posts: 1,830 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Archers don't need accuracy shards, we have plenty of accuracy as it is.
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  • Neltharius - Heavens Tear
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Archers don't need accuracy shards, we have plenty of accuracy as it is.

    but you all don't have as much accuracy as a bowbarian :D
  • Lunnark - Sanctuary
    Lunnark - Sanctuary Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    but you all don't have as much accuracy as a bowbarian :D

    Bowbarian - Nice one! First time I hear this combination of words in PWI !
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  • Neltharius - Heavens Tear
    Neltharius - Heavens Tear Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Bowbarian - Nice one! First time I hear this combination of words in PWI !
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    o.o
    orly

    you obviously haven't even seen that there's a bowbarian guide, eh ?
    barb that uses robes and bow as weapons

    with their bloodbath skill, even with less dex than a pure archer, they get muuuuuuch more accuracy :D
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I did some calculations and for low level weapons (< lvl 40 or so), the elemental shards actually do add more since the damage multipliers are still low. After that garnet is best.

    Did you assume equal level shards?

    (I think elemental shards tend to be an order of magnitude cheaper than useful shards, so for the same price you can probably get higher level gems.)
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I think I was assuming max level shards.

    With a +4 TT90 weapon a lvl 9 Garnet shard still out-damages a lvl 11 elemental shard.
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  • st4roes
    st4roes Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    truekossy wrote: »
    No and no.

    Our metal attacks take our PHYSICAL damage and convert that into a metal elemental attack. Adding magic of any kind doesn't help them in the least

    i dunno whether my english is suck or ecatomb is wrong, according to ecatomb

    lightning strike is A lightning bolt strikes the opponent, dealing Metal damage equal to base physical damage plus xxx (Qty. damage) , so can I conclude that whatever my weapon it is, it doesn't effect my lightning strike's damage, right ? so if i use metal gem here, does it will give us more damage ?
    since the damage multipliers are still low.

    what did u mean damage multipliers here ? did u mean skill that can multiply our damage ? like take aim ?

    ==

    hmm i have hypothesis , and i need ur opinion guys whether it is true or not

    let's see

    A = normal attack + Gem shard's damage
    B = normal attack + elemental shard's damage

    we assume that all have same parameter , include weapon and level gems except the kind of gems

    so can I say

    if we fight with barbarian, blademaster then
    B damage is higher than A
    because as we know that their elemental defence is low

    else if we fight with veno, wizard and cleric then
    B damage is lower than A
    because as we know that their physical damage defence is low

    what do u think guys ? are these hypothesis true or not ??

    ==
    *sigh* I still don't understand how blazing skill works , and why it's not worthed if we combine it with fire gems, can someone give me some explaination b:surrender

    ==

    Big thanx 4 u guys b:thanks love u all b:cute
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    st4roes wrote: »
    i dunno whether my english is suck or ecatomb is wrong, according to ecatomb

    lightning strike is A lightning bolt strikes the opponent, dealing Metal damage equal to base physical damage plus xxx (Qty. damage) , so can I conclude that whatever my weapon it is, it doesn't effect my lightning strike's damage, right ? so if i use metal gem here, does it will give us more damage ?
    No.

    For one thing, elemental shards only affect normal attacks. Not skills. So our metal attacks wouldn't be getting a damage boost anyway. For another, go test out your theory with the base physical damage by using your metal skills against a puppy/horse/etc in town with and without a good weapon equipped. I'm sure you'll notice the difference.