Question about Light Armor Clerics

Its not bad at all. LA is just the medium in choice whereas the arcane might be a tad bit more popular. But it all just boils down to preference when you start to refine those in the future.

Arcane/vit is easier. Easier to play and gear up. Light Armor can be as good, particularly PvP and TW-wise, but you have to invest more effort into your gear. LA shines 6x and 7x. And the high 7x molders for LA are easy to get as well. But HH80 gold arcane is really, really nice and LA starts to fall behind then imo.

Never put a point into vit, unless you wanna be fail LA cleric.
I made the same mistake when I was a noob, put vit up to 17 only to have to buy a reset scroll to put it at 7.

My current stats are
Lvl 67
vit7=hp 2.6k unbuffed(3.2k buffed)
Pdef = ~4.6k buffed (Cleric and BM)

Good idea for you if you want to go with LA, put 1 more point into vit, buy a -10 reset scroll, set vit to 3 and put all into mag(Or even amount sinto dex and str if needed and rest to mag)

At ~lvl 60or 70 you must refine all gear for the HP and Mag def bonuses, which a good LA will inherently lack, and shard all with Citrine shards, go for gear that is +hp, as +vit will only add +10 hp per vit point(The lowest out of any class), Of course if it is +8 vit or something and you are weighing it vs a +60 hp item, the +8 is better (8x10 = 80)

LA Clerics are fun, but they do have weaknesses(Mag def is lower compared to arcane), I play one soley for the reason I like to be very near to the battle, and I love helping with physical aoe grind and with mobs 10 levels higher I dont get hurt even after 5 hits.

I hope this helps:D

naiad14 wrote: »

I was thinking of doing a light armor build.
My stats are as follows:
Level 7
Vit 12
Mag 17
Str 9
Dex 9

and I have one or two left over.

The reason why I was thinking of going Light Armor was because it would protect my character against both physical and magic attacks. Where as the Arcane Armor protects you against magic attacks.

I was wondering if this was good path to go, character wise.

Aeneas - Harshlands wrote: »

I really, really hope this is a joke

b:surrender I was going to let it go......b:chuckle

lol i would hate being LA.... i have a 7x LA friend an she hits the same as me <.< i mean >_<

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »

I am stating this for future use and ChronicDose didn't say anything bad about it infact he is saying the same thing although more in-depth.I would think more before you post and if don't have anything nice to say don't waste the space doing so.That goes for the rest of you except Alyyy

You understand the concept of diminishing returns as applied to resistances in this game correct?

Going from 7000 - 8000 mdef resistance isn't anywhere near the same % reduction in damage going from 2500 - 3500 pdef resistance is.

LA Clerics already have fairly high mdef resistance to begin with. Adding mdef shards reduces significantly less damage per shard then sharding pdef, even on an LA. And both would pal in comparison to stating up the significant weakness of a LA build, HP.

There is no good rational argument for sharding mdef. Such a cleric would be immediately laughed off the server.





To go "more in-depth", LA does have the flexibility of using elemental resistance belt and necklace, as opposed to be wed to a protection belt/necklace. This is significant though not because of the resistances, which is still negligible (we're talking a percent or two at most), but because it allows the cleric to stack both -chan (on the weapon and necklace/belt) as well as crit (from their dex and from crit rings). Which helps improve their damage potential considerably.

But again, this has little to do with having more elemental resistance.

At 80 I had some 7000+ elemental resistance. Sharding mdef would have been b:surrender

^^Exact same magic attack as a full vit build (6mag-3vit-1str). Which is, of course, the lowest amount of mag you can have, but the damage by all means is not horrible. And these builds have the extra hp and/or pdef to compensate for the extra hit they might take.

But talking about mobs and grinding is pretty irrelevant, because everyone who gets to 70+ better have found out a method of grinding that works for them, and you shouldn't be dying while grinding at those levels anyways. You can stay full mag if all you are going to do in the game is endlessly grind and show off your killer matk.

The real issue with the builds is how well they handle squad situations. It's generally regarded that full mag has more shortcomings and doesn't survive as much despite having higher heals. Fact is, bad stuff happens and clerics need to be able to take some hits, especially in boss AOEs. LA allows better handling of physical AOEs (TT is full of them) and physical hits from monsters. Vit gives you more hp so you can handle the same. There is a point in the game where LA (when wearing decent hp sharded armour) is equal and I might argue better than vit (wearing decent armour with pdef and/or hp) because in lower levels that increase in pdef is A LOT. You are able to get a decent amount of hp with minimal refines and sharding but you have more than enough pdef with the bm buff to be able to handle anything in squad. Vit becomes the best option in late levels when you have enough money to heavily refine pdef ornaments (this is really the only way you can make up for the gap in pdef) and you have a very nice amount of hp.

From what I observed, lvl 50-60-70 clerics that went with a hybrid build were still squishy (not sure if I met any full vit ones) in squads because it's really not worth +5ing a lvl 60 pdef belt. After 90 it's no debate; vit build wins hands down. But LA has its place.

And btw LA/full vit crits are higher than full mag regular attacks. I think people have done stats saying LA/full vit build is 70-80% the matk of full mag, and crits are 2x your normal damage. So a full mag hits for 100, LA hits for 70-80, their crits hit for 160 [just an example].

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »

I guess it really comes down to personal preference now doesn't it.No one has to have the very cookie cutter build do they infact forget about Phys and Mag go with hp instead.

No it comes to 1% m.def does nothing for you, while 5%p.def does allot.

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »

Like I said it is personal choice like in another game I play which takes a lot more skill.

Mysti dont add mdef shards to your armor. I had LA armor sharded fully with mdef gems at level 66 and it was a mistake.

You can just outheal the mag dmg if you got more hp with hp shards. Well I am just trying to buy hp gear now.

More hp is generally better against both phys and magic mobs. I guess if you are LA cleric you are used to heal yourself during fight anyway and with hp shards you dont have to pay so much attention to your health bar while fighting.

Well if you can afford hp charm easily dont bother reading this.

Aeneas - Harshlands wrote: »

It's personal preference in-as-far as the game allows you to do whatever you want. You can also shard evasion or mana shards if you so feel like it.

It is not personal preference in regards to whether it's a good idea or not. It's demonstratively a bad idea, and remains a bad idea regardless of how much you want to do it.

Being a game, you're allowed to do whatever you feel like. If it makes you happy, that should be your preferred option. But "wanting to do" something and that thing "making you happy" doesn't make it an idea that has merit on it's own. I could want to build an "evasion cleric", and if so, I should shard evasion shards in my armor, but just because I think it's funny and enjoy doing it doesn't make it a good idea in it's own right.

You see you could have worded this like Torsay did as I would follow his recommendation over what you are saying.

I would imagine for LA it would go like this 1 str,1vit,1dex 7mag every 2 lvls.

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »

I would imagine for LA it would go like this 1 str,1vit,1dex 7mag every 2 lvls.

LA = 1str, 1dex and 3mag per lvl, nothing on vit.

@Lady_Nouhime
Best build for both PvE and PvP is the build that fits you the best

Lady_Nouhime - Heavens Tear wrote: »

8-MAG 1-STR 1-VIT per 2LV,7mag 1str 2vit i saw in a few fourm sections and LightArmours Run out of Mana faster i was told

Well you will run out of mana a lot with any build so don't make your judgment just because of that, the most stable build is the 1str, 2vit and 7mag per two lvls.

I suggest that you try Full Vit build. I was just like you when i first started a cleric, i came from playing a barb and didnt like how i had no Phys def on cleric. Well, I re-stated to Full Vit build and i can tank more than i could with LA, and i had room to add Vit or Mag when needed, unlike LA where everything has to be added a certain way. Just a tip from an old LA user