Archers Should have Crit Rate Buff?

Camp the AH and get some gear.
You've got the highest crit rate of any existing class on PWI, I cant believe your wanting more for free on top of that.

firebreatherr wrote: »

all im asking for is a decently useful buff..the kind that people stop and go like..."can i get that buff please"

In all seriousness, would need to find out first of all is 2% too much or too little, or just right for a lvl 10 buff. Atm all I can say is that for our christmas blessing of 1% crit tome, it cost 80 levels and 5G(approx. 500k)

I'd KILL for your Evasion Buff... And don't you guys get a crit bonus when you go either Demon or Sage?

i'm Sure Any Wizard Would Trade Their Water Buff For Your Speed Buff In A Heartbeat.

Oh Yes Please

firebreatherr wrote: »

where the archers at?!?! b:cry

Following the Advice "Less QQ, moar pew pew?"

Explain to me why the Cleric has the matk buff rather than the wizard.
A crit buff on an archer would be ridiculous.

Wizards have an even less useful buff. At least yours is for all mobs. Water buff is really only useful against fire mobs. I'd trade you in a heartbeat. However; it would be an awesome squad buff to grant maybe +5 dex for 30 mins to entire squad. That would be useful.

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »

archers dont need a crit buff, a good geared demon one can easily get ~40% crit at 89+ ~_~

add in their attack speed buffs from demon spark, rank 4 armor, TT90 gold, and/or crimson horn... and you have one nasty class >.>

for the record, base crit from going pure dex build is 20% at lvl 90. any crit we get on top of that, from + dex gear, from crit equipment, any other class (say a bm) can get.

demon stunning arrow, sharptooth, are all not available at 89, (nor are they easily obtainable)

if you say 40% crit is easily obtained by archers at 90 (how easily is this?), then i'm assuming some bm can have at least 25% crit at 90 as well (also, berserk)

feel free to shut me up with one of those char simulators, but i'm not seeing 40% crit for me in 3 lvls

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

but crit rate buff is kind of not well thought out...crit as a temporary buff wouldn't be very noticeable, unless it's a huge increase in crit, which would be very overpowered

maybe they just need to make evasion not as worthless in this game

or
or

attack speed buff!! b:sin

+1 xD
What she said.

If evasion would actually work like "evasion" nobody would say the buff is useless. But when I have like 1500 evasion and still get hit over 90% of the time it's pretty annoying. With that much evasion (compared to other non-dex classes the same lvl) I feel like archers should get hit much less often.

I agree with most of the previous commenters. A crit rate buff would either not be very useful or just plainly overpowered.

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

hmm? you think the water buff is useless as opposed to our fire self-buff? i think it's a nice buff...if it works like the description says (which is rather dubious).

and our fire buff is not useful only on metal mobs....think about it: every archer you see probably has their hands glowing red 24/7 while fighting, even on fire mobs it makes a difference - the difference between the mob dying or the mob hitting you before dying, which is very very important for an archer

but crit rate buff is kind of not well thought out...crit as a temporary buff wouldn't be very noticeable, unless it's a huge increase in crit, which would be very overpowered

maybe they just need to make evasion not as worthless in this game

or
or

attack speed buff!! b:sin

EXACTLY ! This buff is TOTALY USELESS ! Make it worth something, or give us something else !

<-- angry archer

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Not every buff in the game needs to be useful for all classes all of the time. There are buffs in this game that are only useful a large majority of the time to only two classes, and it's useless to the class that can cast it a large majority of the time: Bramble Guard. While it has it's uses, most of the time it's useless for the veno except to get Bramble Hood later on.

While it is true that some buffs are good for any class all of the time, that isn't the case for all buffs.

just for the record, bramble guard is a useful buff when you are fighting against those nasty, physical aoe bosses. bramble can add a decent amount of DD when casted on squad members, as it reflects a decent amount of the aoe damage.

to the topic, i support the idea of having a more useful buff for archer and wizards whole heartedly. the evasion buff is just useless. for pve, evasion fails to no end. even with the buff, mobs still hit me about 90+% of the times. plus, as an archer, you should be able to kill off the mob before they get to you any way, so that evasion is even more useless. for pvp, evasion only really works on bms and barbs since magic never miss, and other archers will have a similar evasion and accuracy. however, any smart bm and barb, who want to finish you off will use accuracy pots. since evasion is pretty much our line of defence, we'll be pretty much dead after they pop the pot.

yet, the speed increase part of the buff is quite nice, which is pretty much the whole reason why i use it and why i cast it in squad.

as for a more useful buff, a buff that increase attack speed can be very nice, especially if it is a squad buff.

Well I'm sure there are some uses for archer's evasion/speed buff since my archer friend said mobs do miss a lot (he focuses on evasion gear which is another reason the buff can be useful). For every miss, that's less repair bill and less damage you take obviously. Speed buff doesn't stack with anything else but it useful when genie speed skills are in cooldown I guess. I just believe it's "not useless".

A critical hit rate buff is... not needed on an archer epically a demon archer. I will go into detail with this one why they don't need it. They already have a decent chance to critical as it is AND more buffs than you think like a shield that reduce damage from physical and magical plus a skill called wings of grace that helps reduce damage too.

Also they have Elven Alacrity which boosts their speed to 15 m/sec for 8 seconds and only require one spark with 3 second cooldown. This combined with genie holy path is some serious escape time.

You also have Blessing of the Condor to have high chance of avoiding barb's Perdition. Finally at level 100, you can use Awaken to regain 2 sparks.... So do they still need that critical hit rate buff? I'm not done yet cause a demon archer has yet another buff from wingspan:

"Use the divine power of the Winged Elves to attack enemies within 8-meter-radius around you, inflicting base physical damage plus 4347.0, knocking them
back 9.0 meters, and casting a level 5 Winged Shell on yourself upon a successful hit."

They also have two demon path skills that increase critical hit rate by 10 percent for 10 seconds. These same skills can be used every 15 seconds so you alternate between them to always have a critical 10 percent bonus so why do they need more critical hit rate? Flame me if you want but I just stating they don't need that buff for these reasons.

@tear sharptooth is a 99 cube skill, stun is a 92 skill
the rest are (mostly?) fb99 skillbook drops which how many people have...
~30% at 90 is more realisitic
@Lady_Selan alacrity is a 79 skill (woo 20 apoc pages) and its cooldown is 3 minutes not 3 seconds, blessing of condor, again lvl 79 skill, again wild cooldown
wingspan 92 skill woo

if were gonna argue about skills most people dont have lets talk about sage soul degen for venos that overrides the use of sharptooth/archers on bosses