Archer build?

I personaly think you fail ... your dex should be way higher! im lvl 25 archer and got around 103 dex. i have done 1str and 4dex every lvl since i was lvl 1 , archer are pure damage dealer, your defence are evasion! you shouldnt have put anything in mag and vit...

virems wrote: »

Dare To Be Different.

Different can be good, but sometimes being different means less fun.

If you want to get the most out of your archer, go for the pure built, 1 str, 4 dex each lvl and balance the lack of hp with adding HP shards to your gear.

You will be able to kill 90% of the mobs before they hit you at all.

1str 4dex if you have the money get hp from soulstones and refining ftw

i ned help on archer how much build i ned to put on archer like how much dex i put on it and str

Nevermore - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Did you not see Devoted's and my post? >.<

1 str, 4 dex every lvl.

what do you mean by HP shards and soulstones...the only stons i have are the celestones...and whats the difference between their names? like heaven earth hell do they do different things? and what is that mirage celestone from the merchant or whichever NPC it was?

one more thing is.....im going 1 str 4 dex...mbos are doing ridiculous damage...true if theyre melee (not ranged atkers)....probably can kill them before they hit me.....or right now ....im being hit 1-2 times every fight...

im not sure if im doing something wrong? since u said 90% of the time theyll die before they hit you...so is my skill build incorrect...or the order in which im using it incorrect? mind you im not sure on what skills to max out so...my take aim and every other skill is at level 1.....could u help me and inform me [erhaps which skills i should take note to max out and mabye how itd be more efficient for me to attack mobs so i dont get hit as much (or not at all)

thanks again...

oscis wrote: »

isn't 5 dex the best? they need ranged attack, not really physical defense or melee attack.

Yeah, 5 dex every level if you want to run around with rank armor or naked!

Please, think of at least the armor of an archer which is in general:

str required to use most up to date armor = current level +4

This results in 1str and 4 dex every level.

Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »

Yeah, 5 dex every level if you want to run around with rank armor or naked!

Please, think of at least the armor of an archer which is in general:

str required to use most up to date armor = current level +4

This results in 1str and 4 dex every level.

you forgot that with 5 dex you can't wear your wep

b:chuckle
was kind of funny seeing shiky's lvl 100 accnt asking newbie questions until i saw the date

Oh god... I thought that was the most hilarious sarcastic post I'd ever seen until I read your post quil.... MASSIVE necrobump.

b:thanks

raspen wrote: »

I personaly think you fail ... your dex should be way higher! im lvl 25 archer and got around 103 dex. i have done 1str and 4dex every lvl since i was lvl 1 , archer are pure damage dealer, your defence are evasion! you shouldnt have put anything in mag and vit...

yer gunna still be a oneshot to mages at lvl 60 lol

MAGIC DOES NOT MISS (as far as i am aware/tested)

i have slightly more strength then needed just to boost p.def so i can use p.attack shards in my equipment instead

I personally recomend the hybrid archer build. 3 dex 1 str 1 vit, you do rather high damage but at the same have some protection. Firstly you will have much more hp than a full dex archer, secondly vit gives you some physical defense. Not to forget is also that the str you put to wear armor/weapons also give you some physical defense. So you will have much more defense than a full dex archer. And to those who say vit is not necessary think again when you get to the mid-high lvls where the mobs slaughters you like you were a pig.

I think pure dex archers work best, solo, since they can grind alone, without much effort.

But I also think hybrid archers squad well (because they pull aggro slowly and can survive a hit or five).

Comparing Pure Dex and Hybrid:

For Pure Dex, the shortcomings are lower health and lower HP recovery. HP Recovery is not a big deal, as Archers generally have an excess of potions. This leaves lower health. This is remedied with 1) Refining armor pieces, 2) using Citrine Shards, and 3) using an HP Charm. Judicious usage of potions can make the HP Charm last a while, and everything else will make a Pure Dex archer "less squishy enough" for most intents and purposes. But basically, a Pure Dex archer costs more in terms of maintenance (buying HP charms and more Refinement Orbs) than compared to a Hybrid Archer. So you are paying for the extra damage.

For Hybrid, the shortcomings are lower Damage, Accuracy, Evasion, and Critical chance. The 2 or 4 percent loss in Critical chance is tolerable to most Hybrid arhcers. Evasion and Accuracy are high enough anyways that the difference is not significant. Thus, what matters most is the lower Damage. There is no easy way to make up for this shortcoming. On the other hand, you still deal enough damage for most intents and purposes, and it does not really cost you much in coins.

Both of these styles are fairly easy and enjoyable to play.

The unresolved arguments I have seen are in regards to Territory Wars and PvP. There are several players in the archer community that swear on their ancestors' graves that Hybrids are superior for these purposes. Many also cite that the archers in the other Perfect World servers (not United States) go Hybrid for this reason. At the same time, there are a lot of Pure Dex archers here that believe they are strong in those areas.

What makes things more confusing that has not really been discussed is this: what is considered "better" in PvP / duels? As an example, suppose a Hybrid Archer has a better win ratio against a Pure Dex Archer, but a lower win ratio against all of the other classes? Which is "better" in this case?

What we really need is a level 90+ archer to restat and try both Pure Dex and Hybrid (either 3-1-1 or 7-2-1). Then (s)he can tell us which is "superior" in those particular activities.

At level 84, I have done 3-1-1 and 7-2-1 hybrid styles, as well as a something with less Vitality than 7-2-1. I think I will try Pure Dex when I get into the 90s, just for variety.

Like Quilue said, damage is hard to retrieve if you dump stats in VIT to get HP, while HP is obtainable via shards and refines. There are no shards that allow DEX nor any refines that give DEX, making any stat allocation to VIT less beneficial in the long run.

Of course, pure builds do end up requiring a higher financial base to acquire similar survivability to a vit build like Elena summarises quite nicely.

I agree.

The shortcomings of Pure Dex are easy to compensate, but require money.

The shortcomings of Hybrid are harder to compensate.

I should also point out that it is easy for Pure Dex archer to find equipment with bonuses to HP, but it is hard for a Hybrid archer to find equipment that gives bonuses to Damage (or overall damage output).