Material Spawns/Fields

nederlandse
nederlandse Posts: 189 Arc User
edited July 2009 in General Discussion
Am I the only one who thinks there's not enough mat spawns? The playerbase is constantly expanding, and I know I'm constantly struggling to find 2nd tier mats (for the lvl 2 skills)... I decided to put up a poll to see what others think.

I voted for other, only because I don't want to sway the vote. Personally, regardless if more spawns get added, some get taken away, or they get left alone, I'd like to see varied level spawns in lower and higher level areas. For example, Nectar and Golden Herb spawns in Tusk Town, and Green Berry spawns in Archosaur West Outskirts.

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  • Elfaria - Dreamweaver
    Elfaria - Dreamweaver Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I was collecting mats for the FB 69/70 and 79 near Dreamweaver and the forest place north of there.

    To me it seems like the mats respawn in 10minutes or so.

    I found a route that'll make me continously fly to the next spawn area.
    Collecting around 9-10 mats per 10mins.
    IF theres someone else collecting, it'll be such a drag.

    I think a little addition will suffice.
  • Guardianmp - Heavens Tear
    Guardianmp - Heavens Tear Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    They should also make it so you can't harvest mats while on a mount, they'll have to dismount, take care of any mobs in the area, and then harvest. It's really annoying when someone runs up as I'm clearing mobs before harvesting and takes the mat spawn...especially when I can see they are just running a route (likely just to sell the mats, like in one of the shops with 100x mid mats of each type).
  • Kittennice - Heavens Tear
    Kittennice - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    They should also make it so you can't harvest mats while on a mount, they'll have to dismount, take care of any mobs in the area, and then harvest. It's really annoying when someone runs up as I'm clearing mobs before harvesting and takes the mat spawn...especially when I can see they are just running a route (likely just to sell the mats, like in one of the shops with 100x mid mats of each type).

    You should have a stand-off. Don't attack the mobs just wait. The person will either:

    A) Go after the mobs to get it
    B) Just leave

    Either way, you'll get it :P
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  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    You know, they are also selling mats in the cash shop for a reason.

    It si doubtful they'll ever change the mats spawn rate.
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  • RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary
    RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary Posts: 593 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    No one buys the materials from cash shop, its not a big money maker for them.

    Materials play a massive role with the in game economy. For example, with the influx of higher levels in every server, the demand for ultimate substances grow every week. The prices will soon skyrocket, and the economy will suffer in other areas.

    A faster spawn rate, or some more spawn areas wouldnt hurt, I think. We have all seen that they can easily change the drop rate/spawn rates very easily, with little to no effort.
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    It'd be nice if they spawned a little more randomly, like at random places on the map instead of at a set area. So players had a fair chance and they couldn't be as easily farmed by people running set paths.

    It's kinda annoying when I've been grinding at a spot for the past god-knows how long, and I'm fighting that one mob, which is on about 1/4 hp, and the entire area is a ghost town... and a mat spawns right beside me.....and I'm like, nice ^_^ mat, I need that....and that ******n $%

    Sorry, but thanks to mat spawns I will forever hate those deer mat thingies lol. b:laugh
    Materials play a massive role with the in game economy. For example, with the influx of higher levels in every server, the demand for ultimate substances grow every week. The prices will soon skyrocket, and the economy will suffer in other areas.

    On the contrary the Ultimate substance market is a joke. Thanks to farmers we're so flooded with them the prices drop daily. I can't even sell mine at 60k anymore.
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Materials play a massive role with the in game economy. For example, with the influx of higher levels in every server, the demand for ultimate substances grow every week. The prices will soon skyrocket, and the economy will suffer in other areas.
    exactly, prices are going down daily, how do you explain that phoenix?
    a few months ago id have a hard time finding them for 65k, now i can get them 55 easily.

    o, theres enough mines. if anything there should be more in the demon world
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    exactly, prices are going down daily, how do you explain that phoenix?

    Same reason TT matts are dropping: more on the market because there are more players farming them. It's when you have fewer players farming them that the prices should go up.
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  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    im aware of why, its just looking for him to defend his argument
  • nederlandse
    nederlandse Posts: 189 Arc User
    edited July 2009

    OFF TOPIC
    demon world

    ??? whaaaa??

    Forgive my nubbishness, but there's other worlds?
    (I'm assuming instances)

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  • Alizeee - Heavens Tear
    Alizeee - Heavens Tear Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    1 other had mentioned what I think is one of the few minor yet very troublesome issues with playing PWi- SPREAD THE SPAWNS OUT A LITTLE MORE RANDOM, This is annoying. Such a simple solution to allow the mats to spawn say like every 7-15 minutes, add a few here and there randomly like occasional 2 mines and allow the re-spawn spot to be a small random area rather than an exact location at a precise time. It would add to the game and allow others to gather mats. The 3 things that have bothered me about PW as compared to say another popular mmorpg is 1. Such a small world. 2. The amazingly limited amount of storage space we have. 3. The issue we're discussing atm with the mat spawn. So far issue #2 has at least been improved greatly. I hope to see this issue taken care of. I mean it is very easy to "jump in" someones route and get mats for yourself but you actually have to fight for it and then they would get mad I'm sure etc etc. In reality it's a conflict that never should have happened in the first place. I believe this is the best solution to an increasingly annoying issue. How hard could it be? At the same time adding a bit more realism to the game.
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    im aware of why, its just looking for him to defend his argument

    That's why he cannot defend his statement.
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    1 other had mentioned what I think is one of the few minor yet very troublesome issues with playing PWi- SPREAD THE SPAWNS OUT A LITTLE MORE RANDOM, This is annoying. Such a simple solution to allow the mats to spawn say like every 7-15 minutes, add a few here and there randomly like occasional 2 mines and allow the re-spawn spot to be a small random area rather than an exact location at a precise time. It would add to the game and allow others to gather mats. The 3 things that have bothered me about PW as compared to say another popular mmorpg is 1. Such a small world. 2. The amazingly limited amount of storage space we have. 3. The issue we're discussing atm with the mat spawn. So far issue #2 has at least been improved greatly. I hope to see this issue taken care of. I mean it is very easy to "jump in" someones route and get mats for yourself but you actually have to fight for it and then they would get mad I'm sure etc etc. In reality it's a conflict that never should have happened in the first place. I believe this is the best solution to an increasingly annoying issue. How hard could it be? At the same time adding a bit more realism to the game.

    Heh why go that way? its already hard getting mats dou ppl farm on mounts and are faster then you lol.
    Just make the mats spawn in 7min rather then 10. That will fix the problem more then anything else right about now.
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  • StormHydra - Sanctuary
    StormHydra - Sanctuary Posts: 2,221 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Not more mat spawns, but faster spawn times.
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  • VenLooki - Heavens Tear
    VenLooki - Heavens Tear Posts: 288 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I think it's still doing ok right now..

    If you go sit for it, then you will get the mats you want..
    If you just grind mobs ok then you have less chance to get the mats.. Cause youre grinding in a smaller area...
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  • Alizeee - Heavens Tear
    Alizeee - Heavens Tear Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Heh why go that way? its already hard getting mats dou ppl farm on mounts and are faster then you lol.
    Just make the mats spawn in 7min rather then 10. That will fix the problem more then anything else right about now.
    WHY go that way? Because it works much much better as I explained. The way I explained would make it fair and balanced with additional mats as well. I farm on a mount have no problems getting mats, it's just a waste of my time to deal with this especially when i can afford to buy them from others. :) Making the mats spawn faster will not fix the problem at all. I believe you missed my point. I was talking about making the overall system better and more fair for everyone involved. Trust me I know- have played another game that does exactly that- there is no problem with it like there is here. If you do "proper" mats runs- you will come up on the exact spot at the exact time it re-spawns, which is lame. And again I'm talking about an overall fix to a problem that would benefit everyone.
  • Fistriel - Heavens Tear
    Fistriel - Heavens Tear Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    No one buys the materials from cash shop, [...]

    There are ppl who do.

    I think the most popular route is around Tusk Town. Seems it's always a fight there who have the better ping. b:shocked

    Btw i have never farmed mid mats before (neither from cs). I just pick up mats when doing WQ.
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Heh why go that way? its already hard getting mats dou ppl farm on mounts and are faster then you lol.
    Just make the mats spawn in 7min rather then 10. That will fix the problem more then anything else right about now.
    WHY go that way? Because it works much much better as I explained. The way I explained would make it fair and balanced with additional mats as well. I farm on a mount have no problems getting mats, it's just a waste of my time to deal with this especially when i can afford to buy them from others. :) Making the mats spawn faster will not fix the problem at all. I believe you missed my point. I was talking about making the overall system better and more fair for everyone involved. Trust me I know- have played another game that does exactly that- there is no problem with it like there is here. If you do "proper" mats runs- you will come up on the exact spot at the exact time it re-spawns, which is lame. And again I'm talking about an overall fix to a problem that would benefit everyone.


    Yes makes it fair but super slow to farm. For higher fbs you need 20+ of each mat for wine. The only way to be able to farm it is if you know when and where they spawn. Making time random and spawns random. What you gonna farm lets say for 1 sub for a TT run 3h eh?
    Sorry that would su'k hard.
    But making them spawn faster. Peeps with mounts would not be able to keep up and farm all the mats from one area. In a way it will benefit them, but its a benefit to all others as well.
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  • RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary
    RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary Posts: 593 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    No one buys the materials from cash shop, its not a big money maker for them.

    Materials play a massive role with the in game economy. For example, with the influx of higher levels in every server, the demand for ultimate substances grow every week. The prices will soon skyrocket, and the economy will suffer in other areas.

    A faster spawn rate, or some more spawn areas wouldnt hurt, I think. We have all seen that they can easily change the drop rate/spawn rates very easily, with little to no effort.
    Same reason TT matts are dropping: more on the market because there are more players farming them. It's when you have fewer players farming them that the prices should go up.

    This topic is about more faster spawn rates/lack of spawn areas. Unlike TT, which is an instance that everyone can go in and farm at once, multiple people cannot farm the same exact mine at the same time. It is very different than TT, therefore, I think a better reference should have been made.
    im aware of why, its just looking for him to defend his argument

    Replace the term 'argument' with 'statement', as I am not arguing. This is a topic of discussion, we arent 'arguing' about anything.
    That's why he cannot defend his statement.

    I wouldnt use 'defend' as a proper term to describe my reply to a discussion. It is simply a reply, which is pointed out above.
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  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009

    OFF TOPIC



    ??? whaaaa??

    Forgive my nubbishness, but there's other worlds?
    (I'm assuming instances)
    yes there are othere worlds, that contain level 5 thingers like high alloy steel, granite, etc.

    we need more of those!

    @phoenix - your statement is still wrong ): Mines respawn, its not as if theyre in limited supply. farmers have many spots they can flood us with them, sundown, broken plain, fragrant hills, dreamweaver... ult subs are going down due to that flooding. just like mines are renewable and unlimited, so is TT.
  • RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary
    RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary Posts: 593 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    yes there are othere worlds, that contain level 5 thingers like high alloy steel, granite, etc.

    we need more of those!

    @phoenix - your statement is still wrong ): Mines respawn, its not as if theyre in limited supply. farmers have many spots they can flood us with them, sundown, broken plain, fragrant hills, dreamweaver... ult subs are going down due to that flooding

    Very true that mines respawn, but eventually if the respawn rate is kept current, eventually the demand catches up and exceeds it.

    But I do see the validity in your point. I may be wrong, just throwing my two cents in b:thanks
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    They should also make it so you can't harvest mats while on a mount, they'll have to dismount, take care of any mobs in the area, and then harvest. It's really annoying when someone runs up as I'm clearing mobs before harvesting and takes the mat spawn...especially when I can see they are just running a route (likely just to sell the mats, like in one of the shops with 100x mid mats of each type).

    You are clueless. You need to have a route, or farming mats is useless. I need 3360 mid mats to make 168 ultimate subs for a full TT90 set. Without being on a mount... gimmie a freaking break.

    How am I supposed to farm 168 WITHOUT having a route or paying 8.5m for subs? >.>
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  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Very true that mines respawn, but eventually if the respawn rate is kept current, eventually the demand catches up and exceeds it.

    If you want to move the goal posts out to infinity to make your argument true, then yes, but if you keep the goal posts realistic, then it's unlikely.
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  • Bebisita - Dreamweaver
    Bebisita - Dreamweaver Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I don't have much of a problem with mats and their spawns. Except for the fact that lvl 80s and 90s still use loads of MID MATS to make ultimate substances for their TT weapons. It's kind of stupid that there isn't a high-mat version of ultimate substances.

    Unless there is and I'm just talking out of my ****.
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    This topic is about more faster spawn rates/lack of spawn areas. Unlike TT, which is an instance that everyone can go in and farm at once, multiple people cannot farm the same exact mine at the same time. It is very different than TT, therefore, I think a better reference should have been made.



    Replace the term 'argument' with 'statement', as I am not arguing. This is a topic of discussion, we arent 'arguing' about anything.



    I wouldnt use 'defend' as a proper term to describe my reply to a discussion. It is simply a reply, which is pointed out above.

    A discussion is an informal debate.


    Don't try to word smith me.
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  • RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary
    RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary Posts: 593 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    A discussion is an informal debate.


    Don't try to word smith me.

    Check your links, I believe they dont match up to your words.
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  • Dyrenn - Heavens Tear
    Dyrenn - Heavens Tear Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I think there enough spawns, but maybe they should spawn a bit faster, espeically if there are a lot of people in the area.
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  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Check your links, I believe they dont match up to your words.

    I understand you'd rather nit-pick the link than admit I'm right.
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  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    You are clueless. You need to have a route, or farming mats is useless. I need 3360 mid mats to make 168 ultimate subs for a full TT90 set. Without being on a mount... gimmie a freaking break.

    How am I supposed to farm 168 WITHOUT having a route or paying 8.5m for subs? >.>
    i bought mine, dont see why you cant. BM has way better money making potential with mob training leveling.

    besides 'full set' would be either 12 x 5 or 24 x 5 for gold, which isnt 168, and its not as if youre getting a full set of gold equipment either, most people know TT90 gold sucks.
  • Kittennice - Heavens Tear
    Kittennice - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    All I can agree with is changing the spawn times. I think it's fine with the amount of mats. You just need to know where to look.
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