about rb gamma and barrage...

Lvl 1 barrage is general is kinda leeching on your party imo.
I only did the lvl 85-100 gamma, which i know you can finish with lvl 5-6 barrage if rest of party is pro. I was never able to finish entire Gv til i maxed my zhen tho. The last wave just didn't die fast enough til i maxed zhen and started using attack charms.

I have lvl 11 zhen/ST now tho and mobs die really fast it makes a huge difference. Biggest prob is holding my zhen up. Must have mp aura lvl 1 from start or my zhen stops in the middle of a wave. Lvl 11 takes so much mp that a charm cant keep up. Have to use a mp-helmet + spam lvl 100 mp pots if we for some reason cant get mp aura from start. Full run Gv is like 1.5 mil mp charm + 500k repairs + half a hp gold charm QQQ

So its funny hearing ppl talking about doing Gv with a bronze charm and just using pots b:lipcurl

Randomranter - Sanctuary wrote: »

1 more question, does self procs like gloom and target procs lke stun/freeze work with barrage on multiple mobs?
If so how is it calculated, meaning is the whole bunch treated as one, or each mob calculated separately?

Logically speaking:

A proc triggers as one event, the actual skill damage (in this case aoe) is also a singular event. This means that despite you seeing "aoe gloom", it is a singular proc.

Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It depends on the proc.

If the proc is a self-buff, like Gloom, then all it does is buff yourself. This then affects all of your attacks, even in a Barrage.

If the proc is an offensive effect, like Slow or Knockback, it happens individually to each enemy.

Yup, but I think my description still holds... although a little confusing.

Barrage is AoE, and the proc is applied on to BoA with an end result of AoE KB if in Barrage mode. This still is a singular proc because it is a singular event on an AoE skill and it is only because of the skill that triggers the mass effect.

If Barrage is NOT active or any other AoE skill for that matter, it will only be a single target because there is no AoE skill for the proc to operate on... seems a bit confusing but if you can get your head around that, things become a lot easier.

Edit:
Think of a proc (offensive/debuff) being an operator where [a] (proc) operates on (skill)
[a]

Elena did mention Gloom is a buff and not an attack so in this case it'd be [a] on [c] (character) and then the skill
[a][c]->

Where [a] is always singular. If people understand this, I think it could answer a lot of the "what happens with proc X on skill Y?" etc...

I think I've complicated things here

*disappears*

Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »

No, it is not a singular proc.

If I am armed with my Knockback bow, and I use Sharpened Tooth Arrow on 4 mobs, it is possible that 1 of them gets Knockbacked, and the other 3 are unaffected. Thus, the Knockback proc would have to occur on an individual basis.

It is the same way in which Barrage can miss 1 target, but still damage all of the others.

Eh, I got myself tongue tied. I meant it's a singular event, not necessarily a singular proc. The proc still acts as an operator and the mass effect is only triggered by the skill.

In the case of gloom, it will proc only once meaning only a 5% MP decrease if it triggers on an AoE like barrage.

edit: If it's a stun/freeze thing, every foe in the AoE radius has a chance to obtain a proc trigger, which is again controlled by the skill.

Ok, I'm just confusing myself and probably everyone in the future readi...you know what? I'm just going to give up and sleep. It's 3:26am >.<