Barb or Bm...Grr

tweakz wrote: »

Barbs are always needed, so if you don't mind people begging you for help..
BM's are never needed, so if you want to struggle to get into squads...

Fail lol >.>

Immortal...Just make both characters, lvl them to lvl20 or so (its very easy) and find out wich one you like playing more. DONT get a character because someone said so, or because you read something in forums. All classes in PWI are pretty much balanced, so find out what suits your playstyle b:victory

BMs are the most useles class. they arent good as tanks(maybe they can tank low lvl bosses but thats all) and same for dding.
Every1 will take archers or wizards for dd rather than bms so u ll have hard time finding squads especially when tt starts( exept if ur subber)
BTW i dont see their use in this game( exept weak melee dd)

denesis wrote: »

BMs are the most useles class.

I guess you havent gone to a territory war yet. BM roar of pride, heavens flame, etc. b:bye

Fistriel - Heavens Tear wrote: »

No class is useless.
U can replace nearly every class... (f.e. 2-3, Wizzi can replace 2nd cleric b:chuckle)

I talk about HA BMs and TT Astralwalker isnt Low Lv Boss in my opinion.
"I guess you havent gone to a territory war yet. BM roar of pride, heavens flame, etc."
>_>

I do agree BM's are very good in TW, and RB, i wouldnt go rb without bm.
but tbh, TT atsralwaker hit so low that its laughable btw, should count as low lvl boss, and ofc a bm can tank that.
that to say I gave up my BM on heavens tear, when this server started, I don't regret i took barb instead.

btw
Immortal, just my opinion, try the clas urself u can't judge by other ppl's coments

It only took two replies for the right answer to emerge.

Just to clear up a couple of things, though:

BMs are one of the most misunderstood classes I've ever seen. Even within the BM sub-forum, there is perpetually a debate about which type of BM is "best" and which types of weapons "fail." Basically, BM is a class with a lot of flexibility. There is a lot of room to make your character unique and that comes with a lot of potential to make bad investments. But, what may seem bad/weak to one person may be exactly what another liked about the class. If thinking for yourself about how to develop your character makes your head hurt, don't play a BM (be an archer).

BM's role in squads is to give the squad the flexibility to do something other than tank/IH until dead. But, getting the value of an alt-tank requires some good gameplay by the BM and the rest of the squad. Most people are not that sophisticated and won't venture away from an obvious simple solution (barb/cleric or herc) that works most of the time. Then again, sometimes clever people work out a way to use a BM that becomes part of the established dogma (rebirth, cough cough).

On the point about who does better 1-on-1 in PvP, this is not the kind of thing on which to decide a character class. If you enjoy playing a class, you will find ways to enjoy/survive PvP. There will be things/classes that bug you and things you find you are uniquely situated to do. And, it will all depend on situations that vary so much it is not even worth worrying over. For instance, one of my favorite TW experiences with a BM was when our opponent was on the ropes and their infamous PK-leading barb tried to break out with a catapult. Two other BMs and I chased him down and kept him stunned while we basically ate his charm. It was delicious.

let me tell you something barb job in party is to tank and try TO DO there best to damage.


AND BM FREAKEND JOB ARE TO STUN THE FREAKEND BOSS SO THE BOSS WONT ATTACK THE TANKS SO YEA BM ARE NOT USELESS AT ALL.

telling the truth b:laugh

_Spot_ - Lost City wrote: »

I have a 100 barb, slam is not that great.... its bad on squads(cause mobs will knock back not leting dds do they jobs).

I believe that slam is for buying time when you are tanking dozens of monsters and you are in a marginal situation, like your cleric needs some time to get blue bubble up something. You might also use it to push monsters into a static AoE or to move the target of an archer's AoE or to keep a lightweight from pulling too much aggro. If you are not pushing your limits you might never encounter those kinds of situations, and if you do not talk with your teammates about the issues they face you might never think to use it for some of these circumstances.

Or, it can be useful if you are solo AoEing...

Closed for necro.