Level 32 Venomancer that can solo fb19?

Kittypounces - Dreamweaver
Kittypounces - Dreamweaver Posts: 16 Arc User
edited July 2009 in Venomancer
Say it isn't so! I know I'm probably providing more ammunition for the veno-bashers out there, but I just had to share this little morsel of information.

At level 32, a venomancer with a level 31 Crystalline Magmite and a level 3 Heal Pet skill can solo FB19. I have screenshots to prove it, which I will post up here once I have them hosted.

Come on fellow venomancers, let's populate the servers with Molds! For those who don't know, FB19 provides the Mirage Sword, the Moonlight Bow, and 2 other melee weapons (a sword for human, a poleaxe for untamed). They also provide some accessories, but those are not really all that strong.

Anyone interested in farming these dungeons are more than welcome to PM me ingame with any questions you may have. I am a helpful person by nature ^,..,^

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  • XBloodKingx - Heavens Tear
    XBloodKingx - Heavens Tear Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Say it isn't so! I know I'm probably providing more ammunition for the veno-bashers out there, but I just had to share this little morsel of information.

    At level 32, a venomancer with a level 31 Crystalline Magmite and a level 3 Heal Pet skill can solo FB19. I have screenshots to prove it, which I will post up here once I have them hosted.

    Come on fellow venomancers, let's populate the servers with Molds! For those who don't know, FB19 provides the Mirage Sword, the Moonlight Bow, and 2 other melee weapons (a sword for human, a poleaxe for untamed). They also provide some accessories, but those are not really all that strong.

    Anyone interested in farming these dungeons are more than welcome to PM me ingame with any questions you may have. I am a helpful person by nature ^,..,^
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Using a VMag or CMag, a veno should be able to solo FB19 at 23 without too much trouble. If they know what they are doing, even at 19.
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  • XBloodKingx - Heavens Tear
    XBloodKingx - Heavens Tear Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Using a CMag, a veno should be able to solo FB19 at 23 without too much trouble. If they know what they are doing, even at 19.

    ive been in many fbs with my lvl 27 veno and i wanna try to farm molds on her alone. i want the mirage sword mold for her: elf fb19 (pls correct me on that if im wrong)
    should i spam heal the pet and than use skillz or what pls help
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Using a CMag, a veno should be able to solo FB19 at 23 without too much trouble. If they know what they are doing, even at 19.

    Agreed. . .
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  • Kittypounces - Dreamweaver
    Kittypounces - Dreamweaver Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Have either of you actually tried this? In my mid-20s, I attempted it. Rend 3-hit my magmite, then chased me all the way to the entrance of the dungeon. Spam-healing failed, and yes, I know what I'm doing. I had a level 44 venomancer on another server.
    Using a CMag, a veno should be able to solo FB19 at 23 without too much trouble. If they know what they are doing, even at 19.
    Agreed. . .

    To answer your question XBloodKingx, the Mirage Sword drops in all three. The sword (can't remember its name offhand) drops in the human FB. The poleaxe (again, can't remember the name) drops in the untamed FB. The Moonlight Bow drops in the elven FB.
    ive been in many fbs with my lvl 27 veno and i wanna try to farm molds on her alone. i want the mirage sword mold for her: elf fb19 (pls correct me on that if im wrong)
    should i spam heal the pet and than use skillz or what pls help
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    ive been in many fbs with my lvl 27 veno and i wanna try to farm molds on her alone. i want the mirage sword mold for her: elf fb19 (pls correct me on that if im wrong)
    should i spam heal the pet and than use skillz or what pls help

    mm At 27 you should be able to use a skill or two between spams. If you have a VMag with Tought, do"heal, tought, ironwood, blazing scarab, heal, heal" and repeat as the tough is available. If you do not have tough, than do heal heal heal, when you see a miss on mob, do blazing scarab or ironwood, than back to heal
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Have either of you actually tried this? In my mid-20s, I attempted it. Rend 3-hit my magmite, then chased me all the way to the entrance of the dungeon. Spam-healing failed, and yes, I know what I'm doing. I had a level 44 venomancer on another server.

    Yes, have tried it. Rend is a pain, and you really need to be careful with the heals and not lag. If you miss a heal.... than you have to run.
    People that have done it at 19 usualy have tough and threaten on their mags (usualy a VMag, instead of CMag, since VMag comes with tough), so between the 2 skills they are able to pretty much always have the mob do less damage than normal, either by increasing their defenses or by lowering the mob's attack.
    I did it in my mid 20s a couple of times, and it was..... exciting.... and yah, there is a significant chance that you and or your pet will get killed. I used a VMag for it, since it came with tough. Later on I went back to a CMag, since I put 3 attack skills and threaten on it, and it was cheaper to use a CMag, since I did not have to forget tough to make space. Sometimes I wish I had kept both the VMag and CMag....
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Kittypounces - Dreamweaver
    Kittypounces - Dreamweaver Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Missing a heal can be solved easily: hold the Heal Pet hotkey down for the duration. It will auto-fire the skill as soon as its cooldown is over.

    As for the rest... well then now it makes sense. I've never used a vmag beyond a few mobs, mainly due to the fact that it has major aggro-control issues. Also, a level 19 newbie wouldn't be able to afford the 300k pricetag on the Tough skill, to put on a cmag. However, I do see your point, and now I want to try it myself. b:shocked
    Yes, have tried it. Rend is a pain, and you really need to be careful with the heals and not lag. If you miss a heal.... than you have to run.
    People that done it at 19 usualy have tough and threaten on their mags (usualy a VMag, instead of CMag, since VMag comes with tough), so between the 2 skills they are able to pretty much always have the mob do less damage than normal, either by increasing their defenses or by lowering the mob's attack.
    I have did it in my mid 20s a couple of times, and it was..... exciting.... and yah, there is a significant chance that you and or your pet will get killed.
  • Kittypounces - Dreamweaver
    Kittypounces - Dreamweaver Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Also, screenshot is up, it's a link, the picture is too big to appear on the forum I guess.
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I heard someone did it at level 29.

    Using a VMag or CMag, a veno should be able to solo FB19 at 23 without too much trouble. If they know what they are doing, even at 19.


    I don't believe a level 19 with a magmite is going to solo the untamed FB19 unless they get lucky.
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  • Dreadmire - Dreamweaver
    Dreadmire - Dreamweaver Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    It's not too hard, I did it at 26. Took a few deaths to Rend because he ate my pet a few times but I figured out a system that worked.

    When I engaged I was at max heal range of my pet and healed through the damage as much as I could. At 26 (full MAG no VIT) I was falling behind in heals. But if you are max range when your pet starts getting low just call it back to you. You can get off a few heals as he is running to you and Rend can't hit him because he is chasing.

    After your pet gets back to you re-engage. Rend will be right up on you again so between heals just take a few steps away and heal again. Once u get back to about max range, repeat.

    It can be done, but it takes forever and a day to do it.

    Hope this helps. b:pleased
  • Aliiceka - Heavens Tear
    Aliiceka - Heavens Tear Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Say it isn't so! I know I'm probably providing more ammunition for the veno-bashers out there, but I just had to share this little morsel of information.

    At level 32, a venomancer with a level 31 Crystalline Magmite and a level 3 Heal Pet skill can solo FB19. I have screenshots to prove it, which I will post up here once I have them hosted.

    Come on fellow venomancers, let's populate the servers with Molds! For those who don't know, FB19 provides the Mirage Sword, the Moonlight Bow, and 2 other melee weapons (a sword for human, a poleaxe for untamed). They also provide some accessories, but those are not really all that strong.

    Anyone interested in farming these dungeons are more than welcome to PM me ingame with any questions you may have. I am a helpful person by nature ^,..,^

    EDIT: Screenshot won't load...
    2009-07-0914-33-31.jpg

    What's your build, and how long did it take? Cuz that sounds fun and I wanna try it sometime XD
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  • Kittypounces - Dreamweaver
    Kittypounces - Dreamweaver Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I use a custom "VIT build" that has no specific "put X points here"... However, because I'm not pure MAG (9 MAG, 1 STR, each 2 levels) my heals are not the strongest. b:chuckle

    Basically, as long as you put most of your points into MAG each couple levels, you shouldn't have any trouble at all once you get Heal Pet level 4 at level 33.

    At level 40 (with this same custom build on my old veno) I typically finished a solo run in about 45 minutes to 1 hour (untamed fb19). It is fun, and it's a great feeling of accomplishment when you get 3star and Mold drops. b:victory
    What's your build, and how long did it take? Cuz that sounds fun and I wanna try it sometime XD

    Dang Dreadmire... gotta give you respect for the determination. b:laugh

    I'll have to try this if I ever roll another veno, sounds like fun.
    It's not too hard, I did it at 26. Took a few deaths to Rend because he ate my pet a few times but I figured out a system that worked.

    When I engaged I was at max heal range of my pet and healed through the damage as much as I could. At 26 (full MAG no VIT) I was falling behind in heals. But if you are max range when your pet starts getting low just call it back to you. You can get off a few heals as he is running to you and Rend can't hit him because he is chasing.

    After your pet gets back to you re-engage. Rend will be right up on you again so between heals just take a few steps away and heal again. Once u get back to about max range, repeat.

    It can be done, but it takes forever and a day to do it.

    Hope this helps. b:pleased
  • DollParts - Sanctuary
    DollParts - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Say it isn't so! I know I'm probably providing more ammunition for the veno-bashers out there, but I just had to share this little morsel of information.

    At level 32, a venomancer with a level 31 Crystalline Magmite and a level 3 Heal Pet skill can solo FB19. I have screenshots to prove it, which I will post up here once I have them hosted.

    Come on fellow venomancers, let's populate the servers with Molds! For those who don't know, FB19 provides the Mirage Sword, the Moonlight Bow, and 2 other melee weapons (a sword for human, a poleaxe for untamed). They also provide some accessories, but those are not really all that strong.

    Anyone interested in farming these dungeons are more than welcome to PM me ingame with any questions you may have. I am a helpful person by nature ^,..,^

    EDIT: Screenshot won't load...
    2009-07-0914-33-31.jpg

    we already know its possible.. most of us here have already done it at your lvl.
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  • Arshies - Sanctuary
    Arshies - Sanctuary Posts: 666 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Well u spend more time but YES is possible u can use lure for kill mobs one by one i did it sometimes
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  • _Lyra - Lost City
    _Lyra - Lost City Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I dunno about lvl 19, but it's definitely possible to solo fb 19 around level 23-25 with a crystalline magmite (without tough). Of course, you'll just be spam healing and it does take a while, but your chance for a mold drop are a LOT higher
  • Nehemiah - Harshlands
    Nehemiah - Harshlands Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I think I may be too high to get any drops nonetheless molds from fb19
  • Leolf - Heavens Tear
    Leolf - Heavens Tear Posts: 380 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I don't think it counts as soloing when you have a cleric with you. Atleast not a cleric that's attacking *points to the aftermath of tempest underneath Razorjaw.*
  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I'll have to try this if I ever roll another veno, sounds like fun.
    If you want fun in your low-30s, try the 3 dustwraith marksmen out by Florafang in Silver Pool:

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/mob/1107

    Break up the spawn, then park your magmite in the middle of the spawn spot in defend mode. You can stand off to the side so you don't get aggro from the respawns. See how long you can keep the magmite and yourself alive.

    They are archers, so it's very unforgiving if you ever get aggro or pull aggro off your pet. Because there are 3 mobs with a 30 second respawn timer, you're almost always fighting at least two at a time, meaning you have to be sure your pet has aggro from both before you heal it. They are earth mobs so die easily to your spells, and drop decent loot. Figuring out how to loot the drops without picking up aggro or letting your pet die is also a challenge.

    It was challenging and a helluva lot of fun at 30-31 with a mirage sword, so it should be fun in the low 30s with a regular weapon. And it'll teach you some really good aggro management skills which will come in handy at higher levels. After I got it figured out so I rarely died or had to flee anymore, I upped the challenge by imposing a no-potion policy. Only use your veno skills to replenish mana and hp.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    If you want fun in your low-30s, try the 3 dustwraith marksmen out by Florafang in Silver Pool:

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/mob/1107

    Break up the spawn, then park your magmite in the middle of the spawn spot in defend mode. You can stand off to the side so you don't get aggro from the respawns. See how long you can keep the magmite and yourself alive.

    They are archers, so it's very unforgiving if you ever get aggro or pull aggro off your pet. Because there are 3 mobs with a 30 second respawn timer, you're almost always fighting at least two at a time, meaning you have to be sure your pet has aggro from both before you heal it. They are earth mobs so die easily to your spells, and drop decent loot. Figuring out how to loot the drops without picking up aggro or letting your pet die is also a challenge.

    It was challenging and a helluva lot of fun at 30-31 with a mirage sword, so it should be fun in the low 30s with a regular weapon. And it'll teach you some really good aggro management skills which will come in handy at higher levels. After I got it figured out so I rarely died or had to flee anymore, I upped the challenge by imposing a no-potion policy. Only use your veno skills to replenish mana and hp.

    And once he had that mastered, he did it blindfolded...... with his arms tied behind his back. :)
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Serafimo - Sanctuary
    Serafimo - Sanctuary Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Totally doable, I just soloed it with my 31 veno and CMag (no cleric, no outside buffs) and got the mold :o
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  • RockSkin - Sanctuary
    RockSkin - Sanctuary Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Soloing FB's doesn't worth it. Specially FB19. Why? Well the mold drop it's not guaranteed and the mold itself it's almost worthless. Forget soloing FB's.

    If it's money what you seek, then go do your quests and grind like a freak till you reach high levels. At high level you can make a lot more money. b:pleased
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    How long did this take I haven't done this yet.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Senesia - Heavens Tear
    Senesia - Heavens Tear Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    It took me around an hour before I hit 33. After 33, you will have more time to do damage because you get better healing.

    Just a question though.. do you get like no drop at lv 34.. doing FB19? I did that today and all I got was coins... but when I was lv 33, I would get several 3* everytime..
  • Serafimo - Sanctuary
    Serafimo - Sanctuary Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    It took me around an hour before I hit 33. After 33, you will have more time to do damage because you get better healing.

    Just a question though.. do you get like no drop at lv 34.. doing FB19? I did that today and all I got was coins... but when I was lv 33, I would get several 3* everytime..

    Yeah, I got only coins when soloing fb19 at level 34. When I was 33, I got 3* drops, and when I was 31-32, I got mold and 3* drops =/

    Too bad, because it was waaay easier at level 34 than at 31 (could have been that I was more experienced by 34, though).

    I actually want to offer fb19 services to tabbers since they'd have a better chance of getting swag with me...but I'm slow lol.
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  • Senesia - Heavens Tear
    Senesia - Heavens Tear Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Aww..
    I actually like to collect molds.. O well, I'll make another venomancer some day.

    So, is this constant with other FB bosses? Once you're 10 above the boss level you don't get anything? Because someone told me the drops diminish "significantly," but I didn't know it is to such an extreme way..
    Yeah, I got only coins when soloing fb19 at level 34. When I was 33, I got 3* drops, and when I was 31-32, I got mold and 3* drops =/

    Too bad, because it was waaay easier at level 34 than at 31 (could have been that I was more experienced by 34, though).

    I actually want to offer fb19 services to tabbers since they'd have a better chance of getting swag with me...but I'm slow lol.
  • Xipetotekia - Sanctuary
    Xipetotekia - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I tried to solo fb19 last night for fun. I did pretty freaking good considering it was my first attempt at soloing anything in PWI. My magmite is a beast that even lived through me accidentally pulling a room once. I did die in the last room because it was near 4:00am and I forgot that I should be luring by de-summoning my pet and resummoning him when the guys get close to me. b:cry

    But, I did notice something, for my whole adventure I only made a little over 25,000 coin. Another player in my faction said that she averages over 100,000 coin. Does you money making really depend that much on drops from the boss?
  • Senesia - Heavens Tear
    Senesia - Heavens Tear Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Yes. I mean, you got the 25000 basically from coin drops (I'm assuming around 5k -7k?) and npc'ing DQ/1* items right?

    When the boss drops you several 3*, that's at least one mirage stone each, and should give you a good 20k each, and sometimes he drops quite a bit of DQ items (for razorjaw for example, might drop several dull claws which is a good 3k+ each).

    But if he averages over 100k, then I think he probably kills all mobs as well? (for more DQ items) or just pretty lucky overall, or he averages in the several times he got a good mold.
  • Xipetotekia - Sanctuary
    Xipetotekia - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Yes. I mean, you got the 25000 basically from coin drops (I'm assuming around 5k -7k?) and npc'ing DQ/1* items right?

    When the boss drops you several 3*, that's at least one mirage stone each, and should give you a good 20k each, and sometimes he drops quite a bit of DQ items (for razorjaw for example, might drop several dull claws which is a good 3k+ each).

    Yeah, all of the money I got was from the coin drops and from DQ items being sold.
    Its good to know where the real money is in this. Got a question about the 3* stuff. When you say they're at least one mirage stone each do you mean I can decompose them into a mirage stone?
    I'm also trying to make some extra dough by selling some of the mobs pet eggs and hoping that works out.
    I gave it another try before and died because I got a little over confident and tried to take too many things, might try again latter but I'll play it safe this time.

    Almost unrelated, luring is freaking sweet! I've known how to do it for a while but didn't realize it only brought one enemy towards you. I thought you would still get everything that started attacking your pet but not grab more mobs if you lured. But getting only one guy is even better than I could have hoped for.
  • Senesia - Heavens Tear
    Senesia - Heavens Tear Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    3* items always give mirage stone when you decompose them (well, all the ones I've seen at least), it's just a question of how many. Usually the lower level items (2 and 3) you get from FB19 gives just 1. If you have the required skill level for that item (blacksmith, tailer, craftman etc), then yes you can decompose them. I think those lower items cost 5k to decompose, so if mirage stones can catshop for 23-25K, that's around 19k profit per item.

    If you're just after money (which I doubt), solo'ing FB isn't worth it. It is good fun though, and a good way to train your pet control skills.