Genie bug ?

Ormindo - Heavens Tear
Ormindo - Heavens Tear Posts: 62 Arc User
edited July 2009 in General Discussion
Hello fellow players

I recently decomposed a lvl 59 genie, and infused the xp stone I get into a lvl 35 genie. Result : a lvl 40 genie. Kinda weird, uh ?
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  • Jonnykins - Dreamweaver
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I think its supposed to be that

    It sucks I know, but its to stop abuse of the system
  • Fallenangelx - Heavens Tear
    Fallenangelx - Heavens Tear Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    when u decompose a genie it only returns a fraction of xp u put in so think carefully before u level that genie or decompose it. thats why u see people buyin the xp stones, they probably wasted all of their own sp.
  • DarkYin - Dreamweaver
    DarkYin - Dreamweaver Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I thought you got the full XP, but the level difference between 59 and 35 will also mean you don't get 100% when you use it.
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    it also depends on ur lvl i think
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  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    DarkYin - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I thought you got the full XP, but the level difference between 59 and 35 will also mean you don't get 100% when you use it.

    A level 10 genie has 8740 exp but decomposes into a 1000 exp cube. The conversion rate is horrendous. Then you have to apply the level difference penalty when using the cube on a new genie, making it even more horrendous.
  • FitHitDShan - Sanctuary
    FitHitDShan - Sanctuary Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Jonnykins - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I think its supposed to be that

    It sucks I know, but its to stop USE of the system

    Fixed it for you.
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  • Ormindo - Heavens Tear
    Ormindo - Heavens Tear Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    FitHitDShan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Fixed it for you.

    Abuse, you know what it is ? For exemple, you have a genie lvl 105 with 10 lucky points ( the worst ). You get a new one and decompose it, infuse in the new genie. Lvl 105. Cool, 87 lucky points. The guy can do this until he get a perfect one. That's why there is no full xp.

    So the word "Abuse" was good.
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Ormindo - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Abuse, you know what it is ? For exemple, you have a genie lvl 105 with 10 lucky points ( the worst ). You get a new one and decompose it, infuse in the new genie. Lvl 105. Cool, 87 lucky points. The guy can do this until he get a perfect one. That's why there is no full xp.

    So the word "Abuse" was good.

    oops, missread...

    PS- please add an option to delete a post...
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  • surtr
    surtr Posts: 3,378 Perfect World Employee
    edited July 2009
    When you decompose a genie, the amount of xp in the cube is equal to all of the xp from its last level plus all the xp towards its next level.

    So, for example, if your genie is level 50, decomposing it will give you a cube with the amount of xp it takes to get from 49 to 50 plus whatever xp it has towards 51.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    When I bought a 60 or so genie exp cube and put it in my genie exp slot, it showed the cube having um... lv99 and exp999,999,999 lol....to bad it wasnt usable :P
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  • FitHitDShan - Sanctuary
    FitHitDShan - Sanctuary Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Ormindo - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Abuse, you know what it is ? For exemple, you have a genie lvl 105 with 10 lucky points ( the worst ). You get a new one and decompose it, infuse in the new genie. Lvl 105. Cool, 87 lucky points. The guy can do this until he get a perfect one. That's why there is no full xp.

    So the word "Abuse" was good.

    Oh, I undertsood what they were trying to prevent. But, they set the penalty so high that it effectively prevents use altogether. First, the investment in genie leveling is too high to make them really available to anyone except (a) high level players who are increasingly playing a different game from the rest of us, and (b) new players who do not really ever want to become high level. Then, you get smacked with the loss of most experience on decompose. Then, you get double-smacked (or is it triple by this point?) with the discount rate because the genie you are trying to infuse is lower level. And, thus, we complete the circle of making genies useless for mid-level players since you cannot even buy useful stones as an alternative to the painful options for leveling the things.

    That is why I consider this anti-abuse provision to really be an anti-use provision.
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Yeah. My main annoyance with exp stones is they still suffer from conversion penalty, so unless you raise the genie manually to whatever level the cube is, you get far less out of the cube than you could otherwise.

    Then there's the fact that once you raise the genie to the cube's level, the cube doesn't really give you that big of an exp boost...
  • DarkYin - Dreamweaver
    DarkYin - Dreamweaver Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Of course we have to acknowledge that genies are really intended to be coin-sinks, so by inadvertently restricting utility to mainly higher level (and presumably the richest) characters they've actually done their job. b:laugh

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