Heal Or Attack Veno

EvilDragon - Dreamweaver
EvilDragon - Dreamweaver Posts: 224 Arc User
edited July 2009 in Venomancer
Well...there are heal veno's and attack veno's...And i dont mean pvp and pve!! No this is just pve. attack veno's attack allong with their pet for fast kill. Heal veno's let their pet do the job and just only heal their pet. The last group i think is just lazy or something... Or scared they maybe take agro... I am an attack veno... In my opinion: if you only want to heal..Go cleric!!!

Dont want to critisize ppl with herc now... But, some (and i say SOME!!) ppl when they get a herc, they think they got the best tank (true) and only let their pet fight (omg whats up with that!?!?) they just stand besides and wait to heal their pet...
And this is not only for the ppl with herc... other veno's do it too!!

Why spoil the fun of the game and only let your pet attack!?!?!


lazy or not??
what do you all think??
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Yep, it doesn't take that much effort to create a macro and hit it once in a while.
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  • Arshies - Sanctuary
    Arshies - Sanctuary Posts: 666 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Maybe they thinks the pet gains more exp while they are watching how it fights and only healing it, they didnt want waste many MP on spells, or be carefully and dont risk himself and if they think are on trouble go running........ >.<

    I preffer attack and that is what i do, stay watching and healing is very bored if u can attack and kill more faster.

    I saw too many venos let they Herc kill some mobs at same time and only heal it......
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  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    tweakz wrote: »
    Yep, it doesn't take that much effort to create a macro and hit it once in a while.

    Pet Heal isn't a macro.
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  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Isn't the point of grinding with herc so that you don't have to heal it? lolb:chuckle
  • DollParts - Sanctuary
    DollParts - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    if you grind and only use the heal skill.. you may want to delete your veno and forget about playing the game all together.

    I have came accross venos that do this and i would love to smack them accross the face because it is just so stupid.
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  • Dark_witch - Heavens Tear
    Dark_witch - Heavens Tear Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    well i attack to get the job done faster but there is times when you can let the pet work and just heal so as not to pull aggro or if you just feeling lazy, and really, you mentioned spoiling the fun, but, it is a game and if one veno has a different tecnique than yours and they think its fun , i say why not. agian dont flame me bc most of the time i send my pet to attack one mob while i kill another on my own. i say do what works for you and have fun with it.
  • Annondae - Sanctuary
    Annondae - Sanctuary Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    To each their own.

    Herc or no Herc, if you attack along with your pet, the mob dies faster, you can move on to the next mob faster, which means you kill faster and get through quests quicker, gain more coin/drops, and level faster.

    Also, with our HP/MP restorative boost and Soul Transfusion - if you have a relatively safe spot to stand where a mob isn't likely to jump you from behind - I find that mana is the least of my concerns.

    That said, I sometimes do let my pet do all the work, throwing in the occasional heal. Mostly, this happens when I am in a discussion with my faction/a friend.
  • LadyVimes - Sanctuary
    LadyVimes - Sanctuary Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I have kind of the opposite problem, I forget to heal the pet in attack frenzy, lol.
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    DollParts - Sanctuary wrote: »
    if you grind and only use the heal skill.. you may want to delete your veno and forget about playing the game all together.

    I have came accross venos that do this and i would love to smack them accross the face because it is just so stupid.

    If you ask them about it they'll either ignore you, or suddenly start attacking the mobs. It's funny.
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  • HolyInferno - Sanctuary
    HolyInferno - Sanctuary Posts: 767 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Heal veno?!

    Attack veno??


    ....really? that is the weirdest concept I've ever heard. Are there are also buff clerics and heal clerics? Both actions you define your supposedly two venos is the embodiment of a veno. How they pve does not sanction these titles. These titles are just...weird b:surrender
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  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    HolyInferno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Heal veno?!

    Attack veno??


    ....really? that is the weirdest concept I've ever heard. Are there are also buff clerics and heal clerics? Both actions you define your supposedly two venos is the embodiment of a veno. How they pve does not sanction these titles. These titles are just...weird b:surrender

    They are referring to the venos that all they do is stand there and heal their pet, even on normal mobs.
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  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I understood what you meant OP about the Heal or Attack concept of playing a veno.

    Someone who does not assist with their pet attacking probably is a very patient person who really is in no need of leveling fast and/or do not understand everything there is to do with Venos. There can be many different reasons.

    Someone who attacks with their pet is not always considered impatient but they just like to be more involved.

    I myself depend on my attitude for the day. If I want to clear some quests fast I will go full attack with my pet and Mana Pot so I never have to rest.
    I never just sit around and do nothing because for me that is unproductive. If I am not going to assist in attacking I usually pick a spot with lots of herbs and mines and am constantly digging stuff up while my Pet gets me free EXP.
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • Waterfal - Sanctuary
    Waterfal - Sanctuary Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I always attack together with my pet...
    only healing is so boring xD
    only reason I stop attacking is if my pet nearly dies...
    but that seems pretty logical.. xD
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Waterfal - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I always attack together with my pet...
    only healing is so boring xD
    only reason I stop attacking is if my pet nearly dies...
    but that seems pretty logical.. xD

    My nix sometimes kills so fast, I'm too busy picking up after it.
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  • Vidalaire - Heavens Tear
    Vidalaire - Heavens Tear Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    The only reason I'd just heal my pet is either I'm talking to someone in faction chat/whisper or if I'm AOE grinding with my Herc. I tend to be cautious with my heals when AOE grinding since the Herc's HP goes down fast when you have a lot of mobs on it and it's easy to not get a heal in on time.

    Otherwise, I'm nuking right along with my pet. Even when I'm tanking bosses, as long as the Herc can survive, I throw in nukes when I can.
  • EvilDragon - Dreamweaver
    EvilDragon - Dreamweaver Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    HolyInferno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Heal veno?!

    Attack veno??


    ....really? that is the weirdest concept I've ever heard. Are there are also buff clerics and heal clerics? Both actions you define your supposedly two venos is the embodiment of a veno. How they pve does not sanction these titles. These titles are just...weird b:surrender

    Buff cleric and heal cleric?!?! o.O no, you got it wrong... you have fsc (full support cleric) and fac (full attack cleric). With a fsc the cleric mostly only heals and buffs, these clerics fight allong with barbs. A fac fights allone.

    Now about veno's...just see it as the above. You can only heal your pet and don't fight allong. Or you can fight with your pet. I just think if only heal is what you love to do, why be a veno?? We are known as the best solo class, and also known for fast killing...!!

    It's quite annoying some times when you see an other veno only heal. And you are in the same area killing other mobs. You (the veno who is attacking allong with your pet) kills much faster. The other veno (the one that only heals) gets a bit angry, saying that you are killing all the mobs arround and there is none left for him/her..!!! b:sweat What's up with that?!?! b:beatup
  • Leolf - Heavens Tear
    Leolf - Heavens Tear Posts: 380 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    O.o I think Holy might've been kidding, guys XD And I've never heard of such a seperation of Venomancers. Rather stupid, to not attack yourself. At LEAST ironwood to help your pet a little.
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  • EvilDragon - Dreamweaver
    EvilDragon - Dreamweaver Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Leolf - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    O.o I think Holy might've been kidding, guys XD And I've never heard of such a seperation of Venomancers. Rather stupid, to not attack yourself. At LEAST ironwood to help your pet a little.

    "Rather stupid, to not attack yourself"
    yeah thats what I thought too. That's why I started this topic to ask you guys what you think of this...uhhmm...'unusually group of veno's'. Don't wanna say there is a separation between veno's (well exept mag and melee veno ofcourse) but some ppl are just..you know...different...weird I guess...
  • Leolf - Heavens Tear
    Leolf - Heavens Tear Posts: 380 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I guess I'm one to talk, having a light armored Veno :p But this just seems...I wouldn't think it would just be something they do. Period. I can see once in a while, but I never thought there would be heal venos just like there are light venos o.o
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  • DollParts - Sanctuary
    DollParts - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Vidalaire - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The only reason I'd just heal my pet is either I'm talking to someone in faction chat/whisper or if I'm AOE grinding with my Herc. I tend to be cautious with my heals when AOE grinding since the Herc's HP goes down fast when you have a lot of mobs on it and it's easy to not get a heal in on time.
    .

    how many mobs do you pull at once to where you dont have time to nuke and just heal?
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  • Vidalaire - Heavens Tear
    Vidalaire - Heavens Tear Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I usually group together anywhere from 6-10 mobs at a time. If there's a sac assault or increased attack mob in the mix, that affects how fast the Herc's HP goes down. Then I have to be aggro-concious and make sure the Herc can keep aggro on all the mobs if I throw a Nova or Noxious. As long as Reflect is active and I'm fighting melee mobs, I know throwing a Heal won't steal aggro and will keep the Herc alive and give it more time to build aggro on the mobs.

    AOE grinding with a Herc is much more difficult than when a Cleric or BM does it. I can't just AOE and then heal/purify and rely on a charm to keep me alive. If my Herc dies, I lose 10k for the meat I have to feed it and it takes time to get away from the mobs and get the Herc back and running. I'd rather overheal and take a few seconds longer than risk having my Herc die and cutting into my grinding time/profits.

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