Goodbye QQme.
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1. Crimson didn't kill Pendulum. We were going to stay in Pendulum after our lands were taken, but QQme formed.
2. We really didn't care about Crimson personally. AngeRR had beef with Crimson from MS, but for most of us it was about opposing an OP guild PvE'ing their way to the top because they're bad at PvP.
3. After Crimson hid in safezone for so long and fell WAY behind in levels, they ceased to be that, so we couldn't be bothered anymore. Kingdom took on that posture and we came after you instead.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Ligeia - Harshlands wrote: »1. Crimson didn't kill Pendulum. We were going to stay in Pendulum after our lands were taken, but QQme formed.
2. We really didn't care about Crimson personally. AngeRR had beef with Crimson from MS, but for most of us it was about opposing an OP guild PvE'ing their way to the top because they're bad at PvP.
3. After Crimson hid in safezone for so long and fell WAY behind in levels, they ceased to be that, so we couldn't be bothered anymore. Kingdom took on that posture and we came after you instead.
QQmore pl0x (I feel like flaming right now, who wants to join meh?
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Ligeia - Harshlands wrote: »1. Crimson didn't kill Pendulum. We were going to stay in Pendulum after our lands were taken, but QQme formed.
2. We really didn't care about Crimson personally. AngeRR had beef with Crimson from MS, but for most of us it was about opposing an OP guild PvE'ing their way to the top because they're bad at PvP.
3. After Crimson hid in safezone for so long and fell WAY behind in levels, they ceased to be that, so we couldn't be bothered anymore. Kingdom took on that posture and we came after you instead.
You all have to stop with the Crimson/Kingdom/Whatever PVE to the top your all 90 almost, 90s pking 80s is just like PVEing, I know it. Plus you guys had 35/50 in the top 50 at a point, seriously the more you think about it QQme PVEed to the top. I was the 2nd 90, I know I like pve as much as pking, I tell my members to try and hit 90 becase tripple spark is a new game you cant compete with 1v1 unless your 90, but can you sit back and look at what your QQme actually did? they PvEd to 90 to farm easy Crimson kills, thats your PvEing to the top.
Top 50 majority guild = PvE guild, QQme = was a PvE guild, Kill count dose not matter if you out lvl and out gear everyone.0 -
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Icon - Harshlands wrote: »QQme was made to take Crimson, funlolz goal was to take Crimson, everytime I saw angeRR from 50-90 to grind he told me he wanted to kill Crimson, kos Crimson and ill join you he used to say. Yada yada yada. Pendulum was taken out by Crimson, Paradox got lied too and lost their land on Crimsons attack path to QQme which never happened. What happened? ex-Crimson joined QQme and somehow it got manipulated vrs Kingdom. I really never wanted to take more then 200mil a week but I dont trust Crimson or QQme. QQme and Crimson turning a 2v1 on Kylin started the "server death" map clearing you write of, sorry to say it. If I wanted the map I would have finished Heavenly, I never bid on them after that one land, so someone has to start reading facts here.
yesterday it was all BloodCult's fault server is going dead. O-o Get a story right.
As far as i know KD + Crimson alliance doomed this server. 2 biggest guilds butt kiss each other until they both have 7+ lands while suppressing any other guild rising in power = LoL GG TW wise all other guilds were merely side factors.
Unlike this server in LC biggest 2 factor guilds fought it out and made the server interesting.
And i guess from your point of view you can compare BC/LS/QQme to RQ or any other guild that permited RPK. And Kylin to AxeGang. At the end, ALL SIDE FACTORS TW wise. And don't give me that **** about the non-factors gathering up to make a new power house. First, this server don't have that many people. And second, gold prices fu ck up anyone that doesn't have a nice weekly TW payment already.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Then why didn't you try to DO something about it? Because you were too busy trying to outlevel us without trying to take our grind spots. We leveled fast because we killed everything that came near our grind spots, while all I heard from my friends in Kingdom during KoS was "I level slowly because I can't grind out of safezone." If you guys would bother to oppose us and protect your leveling spots you'd have as many 90's as we did. Funlolz and company came to defend me at butterflies on multiple occasions, but I've never seen any of your high levels doing anything similar.Icon - Harshlands wrote: »Plus you guys had 35/50 in the top 50 at a point, seriously the more you think about it QQme PVEed to the top.
Then why do I solo Frost? Gear, levels cash shop and triple spark doesn't mean anything if you're terrible. Learn to PvP with **** gear and then get something good, you'll be a much better player for it.I tell my members to try and hit 90 becase tripple spark is a new game you cant compete with 1v1 unless your 90
Triple spark is useless 1v1 anyway. Your target has 3 seconds to sleep/paralyze/stun/holy path/drop away from you and wait for it to end and then laugh at you for wasting 300 chi.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Ultimate - Harshlands wrote: »
yesterday it was all BloodCult's fault server is going dead. O-o Get a story right.
As far as i know KD + Crimson alliance doomed this server. 2 biggest guilds butt kiss each other until they both have 7+ lands while suppressing any other guild rising in power = LoL GG TW wise all other guilds were merely side factors.
Unlike this server in LC biggest 2 factor guilds fought it out and made the server interesting.
And i guess from your point of view you can compare BC/LS/QQme to RQ or any other guild that permited RPK. And Kylin to AxeGang. At the end, ALL SIDE FACTORS TW wise. And don't give me that **** about the non-factors gathering up to make a new power house. First, this server don't have that many people. And second, gold prices fu ck up anyone that doesn't have a nice weekly TW payment already.
Kingdom/Crimson were allies before the server even opened had no idea what each were capabile of. People knew on day one, any other guild could have started their own agreements, really could have been 2v2 on day one just no one thought of it? but our alliance didnt really last that long anyway.
BloodCult started the "moment guild" I think its just a chain reaction of them untill pwi gose out of business. I know people desired excitement thats why they went to them, but yah, at the time, if they all went into say LS to oppose the 2 guilds then it would have been alot more intresting, and would have started creating the pvp TWs people were looking for, which would have made other guilds come to help LS. So personally BCs lack of leadership/goals/ability to refuse admittance, created a bad cycle which servers shouldnt endure till they reach LC's state now.0 -
Ligeia - Harshlands wrote: »Triple spark is useless 1v1 anyway. Your target has 3 seconds to sleep/paralyze/stun/holy path/drop away from you and wait for it to end and then laugh at you for wasting 300 chi.
Too true, I love watching archers double spark against me then stunlocking them till it's over or just dropping. Makes me feel happy on the inside. b:pleased0 -
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Ligeia - Harshlands wrote: »Then why didn't you try to DO something about it? Because you were too busy trying to outlevel us without trying to take our grind spots. We leveled fast because we killed everything that came near our grind spots, while all I heard from my friends in Kingdom during KoS was "I level slowly because I can't grind out of safezone." If you guys would bother to oppose us and protect your leveling spots you'd have as many 90's as we did. Funlolz and company came to defend me at butterflies on multiple occasions, but I've never seen any of your high levels doing anything similar.
Then why do I solo Frost? Gear, levels cash shop and triple spark doesn't mean anything if you're terrible. Learn to PvP with **** gear and then get something good, you'll be a much better player for it.
Triple spark is useless 1v1 anyway. Your target has 3 seconds to sleep/paralyze/stun/holy path/drop away from you and wait for it to end and then laugh at you for wasting 300 chi.
Untill recently we lacked alot of high lvls, take a look I honeslty think my guild lvls faster since QQme kosed us, unlike Crimson, I used to be the only 90 when QQme had 7 or more, then HeadTrauma hit 90, so you guys had alot more bored people ready to show up anywhere. Grind spots are littereally undefendable no one will stay over it 24hrs a day, remeber at fish Kingdom crashing you guys, waiting to see its called off, going back, that can happen all day, it isnt defendable. When my members talk to me about their problems, I tell them how I leveled, I only did fish when funlolz asked me too I maybe spent 1 lvl there, otherwise I did more effiencent spots with another friend. Really the popular spots really arnt always the best, except maybe butterfly for its lvl range, and we were kosed by Crimson and QQme, when it was just Crimson kos we had the spots.0 -
*Lindt is unable to enter this thread due to not being able to climb over the walls of text* b:cry0
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Icon - Harshlands wrote: »Kingdom/Crimson were allies before the server even opened had no idea what each were capabile of. People knew on day one, any other guild could have started their own agreements, really could have been 2v2 on day one just no one thought of it? but our alliance didnt really last that long anyway.
BloodCult started the "moment guild" I think its just a chain reaction of them untill pwi gose out of business. I know people desired excitement thats why they went to them, but yah, at the time, if they all went into say LS to oppose the 2 guilds then it would have been alot more intresting, and would have started creating the pvp TWs people were looking for, which would have made other guilds come to help LS. So personally BCs lack of leadership/goals/ability to refuse admittance, created a bad cycle which servers shouldnt endure till they reach LC's state now.
blah blah blah QQ im never wrong + it's all QQme's fault cuz ganging Kylin with Crimson 2vs1. As far as i know Crimson+KD 2vs1 many guilds early server and at this point,TW wise, it would look more like KD+Kylin 2vs1 Crimson. b:bye
Im not replying more than this. I think it's self explanatory.
I ask why KD never KOSed Crimson so other guilds would be able to appear, and he says crimson didn't do anything bad.
b:bye Yup, the story suddenly changed. KD had never problems with crimson even though they had to fight each other after 6X for zhen spots and there were PK between guilds at that point on daily basis.
P.S: KD lvled more when QQme was busy taking down Crimson from the #1 spot.(A.K.A. OMG free fish party And non stop solo AoE 4 KD Bms too L33T!!) I guess U mad we just didn't kill each other until KD had 80% of the map.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
In the few hours I was in Kingdom, I noticed that your entire first page is mostly made of Venos, Blademasters and Clerics - all classes that don't need a party or fish to level efficiently. Your Archers, Mages and Werebeasts got left behind, though the Werebeasts aren't as far behind as the rest, probably because they can somewhat AoE grind with the Blademasters and Clerics.Icon - Harshlands wrote: »Untill recently we lacked alot of high lvls, take a look I honeslty think my guild lvls faster since QQme kosed us, unlike Crimson, I used to be the only 90 when QQme had 7 or more, they HeadTrauma hit 90, so you guys had alot more bored people ready to show up anywhere.
So we defended something that was undefendable? We were just ballin' out of control, weren't we? How often was Kingdom at fish compared to how often we were? Once we stopped letting your people in fish parties, I practically never saw you there or heard about you being there in guild chat. Though to be honest, we didn't really have to defend it because you guys never bothered to take it.Grind spots are littereally undefendable no one will stay over it 24hrs a day, remeber at fish Kingdom crashing you guys, waiting to see its called off, going back, that can happen all day, it isnt defendable.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Ultimate - Harshlands wrote: »I ask why KD never KOSed Crimson so other guilds would be able to appear, and he says crimson didn't do anything bad.
b:bye Yup, the story suddenly changed. KD had never problems with crimson even though they had to fight each other after 6X for zhen spots and there were PK between guilds at that point on daily basis.
P.S: KD lvled more when QQme was busy taking down Crimson from the #1 spot.(A.K.A. OMG free fish party And non stop solo AoE 4 KD Bms too L33T!!) I guess U mad we just didn't kill each other until KD had 80% of the map.
Why didnt you kos Crimson from BC, you were ranked there? probably comes to the same conculsion I did.
Hmm, no. Alot more hit 90 while being kosed by QQme+Crimson, look at the top 50.0 -
Icon - Harshlands wrote: »Why didnt you kos Crimson from BC, you were ranked there? probably comes to the same conculsion I did.
Hmm, no. Alot more hit 90 while being kosed by QQme+Crimson, look at the top 50.
I rallied the whole fu cking server in vent against crimson don't give me this ****. Reason i didn't start PKing was because several guilds said they needed to be ready to attack and asked for time. Then backed up and more blah blah blah.
Anyway, as i keep saying. All in the pass and irrelevant now. u are the one busting your ballz trying to guess why this server failed when you were part of the reason.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I remember that meeting. Void and I were whispering that you were the only one with any idea what was going on and we were dying of boredom because everyone was being carebear.Ultimate - Harshlands wrote: »I rallied the whole fu cking server in vent against crimson don't give me this ****. Reason i didn't start PKing was because several guilds said they needed to be ready to attack and asked for time. Then backed up and more blah blah blah.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Ligeia - Harshlands wrote: »In the few hours I was in Kingdom, I noticed that your entire first page is mostly made of Venos, Blademasters and Clerics - all classes that don't need a party or fish to level efficiently. Your Archers, Mages and Werebeasts got left behind, though the Werebeasts aren't as far behind as the rest, probably because they can somewhat AoE grind with the Blademasters and Clerics.
So we defended something that was undefendable? We were just ballin' out of control, weren't we? How often was Kingdom at fish compared to how often we were? Once we stopped letting your people in fish parties, I practically never saw you there or heard about you being there in guild chat. Though to be honest, we didn't really have to defend it because you guys never bothered to take it.
It all comes down to how much your online, I know I play too much. I am sure you know why you arent 90 even with glorious fish. There were more then a few times we crashed and qqme wouldnt come back, but there are always also times we get too busy to come back, I organize most the things in the guild, I am a veno with herc I get busy and cant pick up any second to go crash.0 -
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Ultimate - Harshlands wrote: »
yesterday it was all BloodCult's fault server is going dead. O-o Get a story right.
As far as i know KD + Crimson alliance doomed this server. 2 biggest guilds butt kiss each other until they both have 7+ lands while suppressing any other guild rising in power = LoL GG TW wise all other guilds were merely side factors.
Unlike this server in LC biggest 2 factor guilds fought it out and made the server interesting.
And i guess from your point of view you can compare BC/LS/QQme to RQ or any other guild that permited RPK. And Kylin to AxeGang. At the end, ALL SIDE FACTORS TW wise. And don't give me that **** about the non-factors gathering up to make a new power house. First, this server don't have that many people. And second, gold prices fu ck up anyone that doesn't have a nice weekly TW payment already.
I sorta agree with the BC Thing...it started the whole "all high levels jump to the same guild so they can zhen all day together without interruption"
How the hell did the KD/Crimson alliance doom the server. It ended before every land was even taken. We never 2v1'd any guild. We 2v2'd Pend and LS. Granted Pend never even attempted to expand, but who's fault was that? Not Kingdom or Crimsons. Also...we didn't even have a PvP TW for a long time when we easily could have. How were we suppressing smaller guilds?
In terms of the top 2 guilds fighting it out and making it interesting....yeah....QQme v. Crimson...then you killed that from happening. So the next WOULD have been QQme v. Kingdom...but look who killed that from happening too. We were "threatened" to be attacked from QQme non-stop last week. That would have made things interesting.
This whole high and might saviors of the server is a bunch of BS. You're guild hoppers with large egos, that will never be happy with any outcome of this game. Lets just leave it at that. You don't want any rules or organization yet you cry if you don't get help with HH. You cry about not enough PvP but you PvE more than the rest of the server. You say everyone else sucks at PvP but you bring 6 90+ to kill 1 person in their low 80s.
PS since we've been on KOS with QQme and Crimson...I think I've been attacked like 7-8 times...at least 6 of those were Crimson. I've kept up with levels fairly well without ever zhenning, or fishing, and I don't do GV, so don't give me this BS about how QQme is just so scary nobody can leave safe. I'm sure there are a few people that are total carebears and are literally afraid to leave safe. But as a whole, the KOS had no affect on our leveling whatsoever.
Frankly I just don't want to hear about this anymore. Nobody has saved the server, nobody has killed the server. **** is doing all the work for us.0 -
All i know is QQme failed.......
QQme's Plan..
1st " Lets take down crimsons... they are bully of the server"...
2nd " No No wait wait... lets be butt buddies with Crimsons and take down Kylin and Kingdom..
3rd " arg... **** it.. lets just disband the QQme before we fail more and make new Guilds... Over9k and Sense.. but dont worry folks.. we gonna disband anytime we want without notice. "
4th " Lets make drama about Not having enough PvP on da server..so no one will notice our 1-3 plans..."0 -
I still don't know why KD is a carebear guild?
Carebear = Lightly derogatory term for an MMO player who avoids PVP combat, heavily preferring cooperative or solo PVE combat, chatting, or developing tradeskills/running quests.
Well from definition, everyone in every server is or at some point(if you just stopped leveling) a carebear. Also we do actually fight, soo I still don't get it. So many complaints about being a PvE server....accuratly it includes both PvE and PvP. Also that lv37 I say has a point. So what if you played since October2007. You can get updated on everything major thats happened in less then an hour, experience..yea ok.
Timing,skills,gear,lv, and some luck. Its like watching nurfed,iamkiller, and ultimate o and zin rocking me at the same time. Imagine me having GM gear b:angry and see how much "skill" it takes to own all 4 of them.
Server is dead....find something else to talk about. Also KD taking the server is getting old...zzzz can I hit 90 so I can stop playing this game QQPvE = F2P PvP = P2P0 -
Tryagain - Harshlands wrote: »This whole high and might saviors of the server is a bunch of BS.
I think most of us (former QQme) agree. While most of us felt there was a problem with the server and made some effort to fix it, you're right. To "save the server" is pretentious, arrogant, and just pathetic. Trying to keep 200 people focused on it got just tedious and boring. That's why we disbanded. It wasn't worth it.
The reason any of us wanted to "save the server" was to try and keep the server fun. But when that becomes un-fun in and of itself, we'll you're just a self-righteous idiot at that point.Tryagain wrote:Frankly I just don't want to hear about this anymore. Nobody has saved the server, nobody has killed the server.
I agree with that too. It doesn't matter at this point. Whatever happens, happens.GreenXtral - Lost City wrote: »QQme's Plan..
QQme's plan, originally, was just to be a joke faction until the original group joined Kylin or some other faction to take out Crimson. Then it became about killing Crimson. Then most of those people (namely funlolz and Nova) left and it became about keeping the server interesting.
Actually it was never about any of that, it was, fundamentally, about having fun. It's just at various points the movers and shakers of QQme felt the biggest threat and/or most fun to fight against was Crimson and then Kingdom.
In that regard, I guess QQme did fail. It became steadily less fun and started feeling more like work. Hence, disbanding.Martin - Harshlands wrote: »I still don't know why KD is a carebear guild?
The main criticism about KD came from KD's essentially admitted gameplan at server start
You guys came onto the server allied with Crimson. Both Crimson and KD's gameplan was
1) Level up to 90 as fast as possible
2) Be large factor factions with a lot of land
3) Share KOSes, preventing any other faction from effectively fighting either one, aiding goals #1 and #2.
That's why everyone started disliking you guys. Crimson was, originally, more arrogant and jerkish about it, and in particular they pissed off Nova, angeRR, funlolz, and others who began QQme. But by and large KD and Crimson were one and the same. Focus on 90 exclusively, instead of spirited competition try to keep it down and to a minimum by overwhelming opponents, divide the map in half.
Of course, we all know KD and Crimson eventually had a falling out, etc. But the criticism stuck[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
kk lets remake a guild and kos crimson and kdb:dirtyb:dirtyb:dirty0
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Aeneas - Harshlands wrote: »That's why everyone started disliking you guys.
Lol what are you, the chairman of KD's popularity contest?
Jesus all you guys **** about is the fact who has more lands, who does not PvP and server's being dead (yes indeed it may be).
On the side note: Asmodian Chanter coming near you in September b:byePWI - retired.
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Thanks guys, was fun .__. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Later QQme.. You guys were a lot of fun to fight with..
I am actually not playing anymore either. I got someone else playing my char (little sis) so go easy on her. I hear people keep killing her lol.0 -
I think Icon said something about QQme being a PvE Guild....Focus on 90 exclusively, instead of spirited competition try to keep it down and to a minimum by overwhelming opponents, divide the map in half.
That's why we grinded to 9x so fast, to rub it in Crimson's face. Show them a small group could level 3 times as fast as their whole faction, while still defending against their "Personal KoS" (and tearing them apart from time to time b:laugh )0 -
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