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  • Rule - Heavens Tear
    Rule - Heavens Tear Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Maddrox - Harshlands wrote: »
    I have been wondering.. how good exactly is the xp? Like for a good zhen party, about in how long could you estimate leveling as a lvl 60 barb.

    At 60 with a good party 23-26% an hour is not unrealistic.
  • Maddrox - Harshlands
    Maddrox - Harshlands Posts: 1,140 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Wow.. Thanks. I was planning on Zhenning on monday for the first time.b:victory
  • Exorcist - Harshlands
    Exorcist - Harshlands Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    DD stands for Damage Dealer not Direct Damage.
  • Rule - Heavens Tear
    Rule - Heavens Tear Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Exorcist - Harshlands wrote: »
    DD stands for Damage Dealer not Direct Damage.

    I'm ok with it how it sits. Would not want to imply that a DD could be a position for barb\BM who deal damage in Aoe.
  • Smexxyfox - Heavens Tear
    Smexxyfox - Heavens Tear Posts: 722 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    lots of pages to read.. so sorry if this was posted already.

    For a veno to pull, use your pet exclusively. Stand in range of the blue bubble and use your pet to run around and spank mobs, when he gets 5-6 on him make him come back to you.

    worst case your pet loses agro and the mobs come to you anyways, best case you can lure lots of stuff risk free.
  • Asparagus - Harshlands
    Asparagus - Harshlands Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Rule - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Erm, perhaps we are having a problem in translation. There is literally no expense to being a lure except a minor repair bill. The rest of the party is paying a huge price to kill things as quickly as possible. Your riding thier expense for free, you gain the benefits of thier money. For your time you get a massive XP gain as well as an equal split of drops for things you didn't kill.

    Your payment is the XP+drops from the zhen. You can not gain these doing solo anything without expenditure.


    Well yes, it does not cost much at all, but what you as a lurer put into it is not money but work.

    Also, the best way for a axe warrior/axemaster to gain exp is not to pull for a zhen group, it is to get a cleric to heal you, and go aoe just the 2 of you. Atleast that is what I've been told.

    Cheers
    Arn
    I wanna give you some good frequencies. 1710, 2.6, 2245, 3032, 400.
  • Rule - Heavens Tear
    Rule - Heavens Tear Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Asparagus - Harshlands wrote: »
    Well yes, it does not cost much at all, but what you as a lurer put into it is not money but work.

    Also, the best way for a axe warrior/axemaster to gain exp is not to pull for a zhen group, it is to get a cleric to heal you, and go aoe just the 2 of you. Atleast that is what I've been told.

    Cheers
    Arn

    I'm really pretty confused about why anyone puts comparision xp etc up. Its not a guide for aoe grinding as a bm...its a guide for how to zhen.
  • Asparagus - Harshlands
    Asparagus - Harshlands Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Rule - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I'm really pretty confused about why anyone puts comparision xp etc up. Its not a guide for aoe grinding as a bm...its a guide for how to zhen.


    I just compared the amount of exp a blademaster could get if he didn't pull for zhenpartys, whom would be useless without a puller.

    Cheers
    Arn
    I wanna give you some good frequencies. 1710, 2.6, 2245, 3032, 400.
  • AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear
    AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,413 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Well actually it's level dependent for the Blademaster. For me its better now to aoe grind solo, perhaps with a cleric(not needed anymore though), on seaweed thieves; at level 60 not so great. But i would zhen on Nightscream island. As it would be more beneficial for me to do so for a few more levels.
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  • Elfaria - Dreamweaver
    Elfaria - Dreamweaver Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Wow thats all an archer has to do?
    Do a duel, near the end finish off with barrage of arrows, the person dies while barrage of arrows is still on, then the lurers just lure the monsters in the barrage?

    Sounds easy enough.
    So I pretty much sit there while barrage is active and switch my charm once its empty?

    Did I get it right?
    There was like only 1 video on youtube that showed me a Archer AOEing but I just wanted to make sure.
  • Kasumi - Dreamweaver
    Kasumi - Dreamweaver Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Elfaria - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Wow thats all an archer has to do?
    Do a duel, near the end finish off with barrage of arrows, the person dies while barrage of arrows is still on, then the lurers just lure the monsters in the barrage?

    Sounds easy enough.
    So I pretty much sit there while barrage is active and switch my charm once its empty?

    Did I get it right?
    There was like only 1 video on youtube that showed me a Archer AOEing but I just wanted to make sure.

    yep, duel the cleric, attack her normally until she's half hp or so, then use barrage to finish. Take it slow, you don't wanna attack too fast and then crit at the end and kill her and waste her hp charm. What I do is attack, run a little, then attack again, just to be safe. Sometimes I use an mp potion before I barrage in case I miss and don't kill the cleric, then have to waste time getting chi again. After all that, it's just sit there and watch your screen, watch tv etc. ^^
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  • Kaedriel - Heavens Tear
    Kaedriel - Heavens Tear Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    I'm getting to the point where I'm thinking about zhenning (not quite enough MP just yet) and I had a few questions I'd like to ask the more experienced folks.

    Firstly, how much mana is Barrage1 going to consume per hour? In other words, about how long is my gold MP charm going to last? The pure math says about 430k MP/hr for level 1 barrage - is that about accurate? Also, if it runs out (say I started with only 50k left on it or something), do I have time to drop a new charm into the slot quickly before Barrage runs out and I accidentally get my party killed?

    Secondly, how many arrows per hour will zhenning consume? I know that the OP helpfully cited 10k arrows as a good amount to have; I'd like to know how long I can expect those to last. It would be great to know how many arrows I'll be using per hour so that if I want to go zhen all day, I know how many arrows I should be bringing.

    Thanks so much for an awesome guide, and for all the helpful posts on this thread so far, which has really answered a lot of my questions.
  • RogueFox - Heavens Tear
    RogueFox - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    wtf is zhen?
    hehehe i like my sig >:)
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  • Aerynx - Sanctuary
    Aerynx - Sanctuary Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Kaedriel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Firstly, how much mana is Barrage1 going to consume per hour? In other words, about how long is my gold MP charm going to last? The pure math says about 430k MP/hr for level 1 barrage - is that about accurate? Also, if it runs out (say I started with only 50k left on it or something), do I have time to drop a new charm into the slot quickly before Barrage runs out and I accidentally get my party killed?

    The consumption of mp depends on the lvl of barrage. Assuming the barrage is lvl one, it consumes 360mp per 3 seconds, that is 7200mp per minute, which is 432k mp per hour. One Gold MP charm contains 900k mp which would cover about 2 hrs of barrage of arrows. As the lvl of the barrage increases so does the amount of mp burned every 3 seconds.

    As for the replacement for a burnt charm, I have never tried it but I don't think it would cause too much trouble for the party, as long as everyone stays within the range of BB.

    oh and @ RogueFox: read the first post on the threadb:angry
  • Mistimancer - Heavens Tear
    Mistimancer - Heavens Tear Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I did spider zhen and I was pulling in foxform level 3 and was using the earthquake of my genie... it worked pretty well :)
  • Poopspooge - Heavens Tear
    Poopspooge - Heavens Tear Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Excellent guide, thank you very much!!

    In the guide it says the ideal monster level is 11 levels over your characters. But what about the squad party members level? I've heard that as long as you're within 10 levels of each other, there is no significant exp loss.

    Has anyone zhenned with a party of all the same levels (or very close)? Was the experience significantly higher to where it was worth being that picky over squad mates?

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