Sharding armor/wep

Midnitekitty - Heavens Tear wrote: »

[1] Wat kind of shards should I shard on my TT70 armor set?
As for next Lvl80 wep, I wanted to put 2 different shards like Flawless Sapphire and one other different flawless. [2] Any suggestions on wat I should get?([3] btw woould that gives 2 different color swirls?).
thanks ^^

1. Depends on the armour type. HP is often the most popular choice, but some people advocate P.Def shards on arcane armour.

2. Depends on your build. We don't know if you're Arcane/Light/Heavy and if you're Caster/Hybrid/Fox. If you don't use fox, I'd recommend two sapphires; If you do use fox consider either two sapphires or one sapphire and one garnet (P.Atk).

3. Yes, two different flawless shards will create two different coloured swirls.

Im pure Arcane Veno and Caster. I dont use my fox..
Shouldnt I shard all my armor Mag Def for AOEs since pets would already take the Melee and tanking so I should only b worrying bout Mag mobs?
Wep will be Glaives of Divinity with Sapp Flawless n Turquiose or Amber Flawless mayb?

I'm a noob to rpg, but I think your magic def is already sufficiently covered by your high magic, and arcane gear. I use garnet shards not only for more balanced pdef, but because HP shards would make the cost of filling my HP more. When you're soloing a boss and don't have time for Nature's Grace, it's much cheaper to just use Soul Transfusion and refill your HP with much smaller cheaper pots instead of your MP with large expensive ones because your HP is so much less, and when transferred to MP it's done in percent (ie: gain). Many AOE's are phys, and many ranged attacks are phys.

I wouldn't recommend Glaives of Divinity for a Veno. A veno should have no problem getting the TT weapons and those Glaives is more suitable to a Wiz or Cleric that needs the extra MP. With pure mag, and latest TT weapon: refines and imbues could turn out to be overkill. You may run into aggro stealing from your pet issues or just find that that little amount doesn't really change how many hits you must make to kill. The extra attack could help for healing when your pet is tanking bosses though.

In general I've found the pdef shards to be much more useful on my armor and just make sure the actual armor have added vit or +HP on them to compensate. However on my arcane veno the extra HP from sharding was nice since I had low HP and as IceJazmin said the lower your base vit is the greater impact the HP shards will have. Same was true with adding pdef shards on certain armors even for arcane. Then again I never got around to refining my armor due to selling off my mirages during the craze for them when the genies came out lol.

I wouldn't worry about hp sharding at all. You can carry around a few +vit/hp protection ornaments to switch up for those rare occasions when you might need it in later levels. (Soul Banisher )

Side Note: I am saving up my Mirage Stones for the better armor and weapon, since most of the stuff I have is Quest rewards or such that it cannot be refined.

Teartroll - Sanctuary wrote: »

that is totally wrong.

they add the flat amount they say they do, as do refines. i have 5081 HP, i look at my hat which refined gives +51 hp, and has 3x beautiful citrine resulting in a total of 147 HP loss. i take it off, i have 4934, exactly 147 HP gone. dont put nonsense here that is misleading.

@ OP when i say mods + ornaments, it means Protection Belts and Necklaces/Gear that has blue words that say Pdef + xx on it.

What the person meant was a greater percentage gain I believe. If you have 1000 hp and add 100 hp in shards, you've gained 10%. However if you have 2000 hp and add 100 hp in shards, you've only gained 5%. The result is that there's a diminishing return on hp shards the more you get. To take a more realistic example, lets say you have a 3 socket item and you have 1500 hp. Say you're going to put 25 hp shards in it. That first shard gives you 1525 hp which is a gain of 1.67%, the second shard puts you at 1550 hp for an additional gain of 1.64%, and the third shard puts you at 1575 hp for an additional gain of 1.61%.

Brael - Dreamweaver wrote: »

What the person meant was a greater percentage gain I believe. If you have 1000 hp and add 100 hp in shards, you've gained 10%. However if you have 2000 hp and add 100 hp in shards, you've only gained 5%. The result is that there's a diminishing return on hp shards the more you get.

There is no diminishing returns. If a mob is hitting you for 100 damage per hit, 100 hp in shards will let you survive one extra hit. Doesn't matter if you have 1000 or 2000 hp.

The only time base hp would come into play is when comparing to e.g. ornaments which give +5% hp, or if you got hit by an attack which took off (say) 10% of your max hp. It *appears* to come into play when you look at your hp bar because it's the same size no matter how many hp you have. But that's just an illusion. Relative to the size of your hp bar, the damage from attacks is reduced just as much as the bonus from shard hp, so there is no diminishing returns.