fb-19 farming?

not possible, need tank and cleric
at level 50ish u can solo boss with using pots etc, but at so high level lvl 19 drops will seem worthless to u

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=3139281#post3139281 here i posted something about soloing fb19 caves b:victory . 2 archers 31lvl i think might die easy even from mobs inside..mobs are grouped ,lol ,2-3, best its to pull mobs by a veno b:laugh.U want that moonlight bow mold ? ..chance to get it from boss its like..0.6% !! ..its very rare..u need to try alot runs b:surrender.wish u good luck both b:victory

You don't need a veno to pull you can use knockback arrow for bunched up mobs. Since it does the damage AFTER it pushes the mob back it wont attract the other monsters.

That is unless it misses, which it will. I have a 98% chance of hitting most monsters my level and yet my knockback arrow misses a good 20% of the time.

By the time you and your friend (bad combo for farming fb's btw) are high enough level, as has been stated, any drops you *might* get will be worthless to you. Amulet of Throm and the lvl 22 legendary sword both come to mind, are quite rare drops...

Fb29 can drop some nice molds, as well as the later fbs, but I'd give up on hoping to make any kind of money from fb19.

Best combo for farming low fbs are BM and Cleric/Mage. Still, you're better off just running it for the XP than thinking you'll get any decent drops.

Teh_fishey - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'd recommend you don't do that. Get a cleric and perhaps a barbarian then you can do it. Me? I can solo that and the fb29, and probably the fb39 but.... I am a venomancer and I have a hercules.

i really doubt that u can do fb29 and fb39 solo, even with herc, its already hard do solo fb29 and almost impossible to do the fb39, even for lvls 60 and u ur only lvl 4x atm... if u dont believe me, just try them and u will see... the fb29 isnt hard, but the boss is, so i may believe u can do it, but the fb39 i too hard for one person only.

correct me if im wrong...b:lipcurl

Guardians - Harshlands wrote: »

i really doubt that u can do fb29 and fb39 solo, even with herc, its already hard do solo fb29 and almost impossible to do the fb39, even for lvls 60 and u ur only lvl 4x atm... if u dont believe me, just try them and u will see... the fb29 isnt hard, but the boss is, so i may believe u can do it, but the fb39 i too hard for one person only.

correct me if im wrong...b:lipcurl

Corrected. I am a level 60 Archer and I can Solo both fb29 and fb39, but then again I have some very good Equipments and Charms. But a Herc Veno can do fb29, I have seen it done before, as long as the Herc is leveled up and the Veno only really Heals.

Actually, all FB19s can easily be soloed by a lv.33 Veno -- we get pet heal upgrade at that level, so don't even have to spam-heal: 1 heal, 1 blazing/ironwood/venomous, repeat; and it's possible to bring Golem (Volcanic one, which has Tough) to full health and do Spark-Venomous-Ironwood-Venomous combo.

However, once you're lv.34, drops get much worse. @lv33 you often get 2 3-stars, sometimes 3-star + amulet mold; @lv34 the best I've seen is one 3*. No more molds, sometimes coins only.

Veno+any other class (without cleric) is possible too, as long as they are careful enough not to grab aggro.

FB29 is a different story. We cleared it yesterday (lv.38 veno + lv.32 barb) -- and were promptly killed by Qingzi in about half a minute. Looking for 3X cleric, anyone wants to give it a try?

All mobs are very strong: @lv33 they hit me for 400+ dmg (that's with a rather decent gear, including 3* arcane armor and pdef+84 quest reward belt). First thing you see after you enter is a patrol of three archers; you have to separate them somehow (this can be done with a pet; Genie skills might work too) -- and first archer will be happy to kite you into remaining two if you allow him. Next, Flames: stationary long-range mobs similar to cactopods from elven FB19. Next, lanterns which explode on death -- for barbs that means MASSIVE DAMAGE. Next, a room packed with mobs, with two ghouls standing right next to the entrance; don't know whether it's possible to pull only one. Next, Towerling midboss with a Flame next to it. Then, three groups: Ghoul + 2 Flames next to each other. And finally Qingzi with his 300k HP -- killed my golem in 4 hits, I think.

fb29 is such a fail fb >_<

A 4x cleric and 4x wizard can take Qingzi easily, provided both have some MP pots (NOTE: This was without genie usage or charms) <--confirmed through experience. I noticed Qingzi was only using his creepy stone-throw magic attack, which meant I as a wizard was taking around 200-300 damage a pop with stone barrier thrown up. A 4x cleric spamhealing me allowed me to kill him - albeit taking around 13-14 minutes with a few lucky crits and one pitfall stun (Don't ask me why I decided to use pitfall >_>)

fb19 can be taken care of by two 3x wizards (again, confirmed through experience) without charms or genie skills, and an HP-charmed 4x wizard can solo fb19. I presume a 4x wizard with no charm could solo fb19 with a bit of nifty kiting...I gotta try that sometime >_>

LTraveller - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I heard a rumor that it is possible to force Qingzi to use his mag. attack only (on you, not on pet) -- anyone knows the details?

The few times i've tanked it as an archer.. as long as i stay away from him and use my bow he makes no effort to close the gap and hit me. He just stands there throwing rocks at me. Basically if you want Qinqzi to ONLY use his mag. attack, the person who has aggro just has to stand far enough away from him while attacking. If you think you will survive(you will DEFINITELY need a cleric on you, maybe even a charm).. try not sending in your pet at the start and just spam your various spells on him. He should only come close enough to use his mag. attack on you. When you're sure you'll keep aggro, send in your pet(you should prolly have his aggro skills, ex.: Bash, turned off) for a little extra damage dealing. If you actually decide to attempt this I say unto you: GOOD LUCK!!b:victoryb:victory

Teh_fishey - Dreamweaver wrote: »

yeah exactly what you said

it may take forever but fbs with a herc are really easy, the only tough part of the fb29 is the one with all AoE dudes before the boss

Not sure if the glitch is bannable, but as a Veno, you can pull Qingzi through the door and not have to deal with the AoE mobs, as long as you dont kill the towerling.

XME_Norou - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The few times i've tanked it as an archer.. as long as i stay away from him and use my bow he makes no effort to close the gap and hit me. He just stands there throwing rocks at me. Basically if you want Qinqzi to ONLY use his mag. attack, the person who has aggro just has to stand far enough away from him while attacking. If you think you will survive(you will DEFINITELY need a cleric on you, maybe even a charm).. try not sending in your pet at the start and just spam your various spells on him. He should only come close enough to use his mag. attack on you. When you're sure you'll keep aggro, send in your pet(you should prolly have his aggro skills, ex.: Bash, turned off) for a little extra damage dealing. If you actually decide to attempt this I say unto you: GOOD LUCK!!b:victoryb:victory

Just tried that: lv.39 veno + lv.56 cleric. Wanted to test the hypotheses that drops are based not on average party level, but on the level of the one who does most damage / lands final hit.

I was spamming wood, pet (antelope pup) added some damage and had Howl on autocast. Qingzi ignored ante, cast spells on me about once each 5 seconds, dealing 500-1000 damage; my spells hurt him for 1500-2000, up to 3400 in Spark + Extreme Poison + Ironwood combo. Brought some Jade Powder, but with buffs that powerful didn't need them; several Perfect Mana pots were enough.

Loot: 2 3-star Sunsprite's Marks, some DQ & strong glue, lucky cards & small mystery pot, some nice 1-star items (e.g. Wraith Robe with a socket and MP Recovery +3).

Guardians - Harshlands wrote: »

i really doubt that u can do fb29 and fb39 solo, even with herc, its already hard do solo fb29 and almost impossible to do the fb39, even for lvls 60 and u ur only lvl 4x atm... if u dont believe me, just try them and u will see... the fb29 isnt hard, but the boss is, so i may believe u can do it, but the fb39 i too hard for one person only.

correct me if im wrong...b:lipcurl

you stand corrected. b:chuckle b:pleased

lv53 herc veno (just one of my many characters) and i can solo everything up till the last boss of fb51. was doing fb 39 at lv42-43ish (same lvl as the bosses)

evn got me a couple molds along the way