Pvp mage

FireMagican - Sanctuary
FireMagican - Sanctuary Posts: 23 Arc User
edited July 2009 in Wizard
Hi,
Well i have some questions to pk as mage
1) when should i start (without light armor)
2) how must i change stats (have str like weapon/armorneed,40 dex because of a mistake, 45 vit and rest (a bit more than200) mag)
3) what skills in which situation( cast order at different classes)
4) which classes are easy which are more hardly

That where my questions
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    1. start pking anytime
    2. go pure int or LA.. read a guide to find those stats
    3. the skills always depend on the situation, can't really list them all, but you should always start with sandstorm on any melee class (because of the reduction of accuracy)
    4. in my experience as a LA mage... The hardest (in order from hardest to easiest) would be venos (w/ nix), clerics, barbs, archers, BM's
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  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Worth noting that on sanc the only people in pk mode are over 80.
    Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.

    Send me a mail if you wanna ask/request anything

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  • Mizorie - Lost City
    Mizorie - Lost City Posts: 598 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Best advice. PvP yourself and see what works and what does not work. Takes time though.
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    FAC's are a joke once you get BT, barbs are easy if you got the right skills. BMs and archers probably the most difficult. venos depends on there pets most of the time its a nix so ya either try to sutra it to death or fly away on a maxed zuriels blade ^^ using accelerate. vit clerics are a toss up
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • shuzan
    shuzan Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    FAC's are a joke once you get BT, barbs are easy if you got the right skills. BMs and archers probably the most difficult. venos depends on there pets most of the time its a nix so ya either try to sutra it to death or fly away on a maxed zuriels blade ^^ using accelerate. vit clerics are a toss up
    wtf are you talking about? Clerics don't have blade tempest, and this is the wizard forum.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    ??????????????????? mizu lost

    FACs are a joke once you get BT. Im talking to the poster telling him that FACs are easy when you get BT. I told him the vit clerics are a toss up he asked which class is the easiest and which is the hardest which i decided to answer b:surrender
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    shuzan wrote: »
    wtf are you talking about? Clerics don't have blade tempest, and this is the wizard forum.

    He is saying FAC's (who are full attack clerics) are a joke (meaning u can kill them easier then vit cleric) when you (a wiz) get blade tempest.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    thank you makina <3 b:victory i thought my english was going bad again >.<
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • _makina_ - Sanctuary
    _makina_ - Sanctuary Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    thank you makina <3 b:victory i thought my english was going bad again >.<

    Naw no need for thanks it happens to readers who are just skimming not reading the whole thing out. I doubt the person who accused you of not knowing your class even comes back or posts again in the same thread due to hmmm...pride issues of the fail at a flame.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    LOL they probably wont ^^
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • FireMagican - Sanctuary
    FireMagican - Sanctuary Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    ok ty for all posts

    i just have some questions now
    what skills should i use if the other attacks me first
    because in pk mode i couldn't decide onmyself when I'll be attack
    well if i attack someone first of course one of the 59 aoe skills or sandstorm

    and aren't archers and cleric the most difficult ones
    venos: i knock the pets back and stun them and then i hit the veno with 3-4 attacks down
    because they don't deal much dmg
    barbarians: could be difficult if they get to close to me but if not i will eas
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    archers arent hard if you use the right skills
    pull out your archer genie who must have the skills blinding sand and tree of protection then your choice of frenzy or extreme poison, i recommend the latter.

    single spark > FoW > blinding sand(genie) > extreme poison(genie) > sutra > GS > SS > DP or SR > dead archer

    this works wonders on LA wizards too ^^

    FAC's
    BT - they wont live, if they do they arent FAC

    Vit clerics
    single spark > gush > BT

    if it says single spark, you need max chi at lvl 59+.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    u really think a single sparked tempest is going to kill a proper cleric? a friend tried to kill me with a double sparked tempest, and i still didn't die.

    on the other hand, i've heard horror stories of being hit by a triple sparked tempest.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    well when your lvl 60 clerics are running around with under the average gear. A sparked tempest in my combination can kill a vit cleric. thats the point of hitting them with gush to take out a bit of there HP (my gush hits clerics for 900) then a BT (hits for about 2k-2.3k)

    demon spark BT FTW?
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • FireMagican - Sanctuary
    FireMagican - Sanctuary Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Ok
    Ty alot
    But i still don't understand everything what you said
    Firstly what means frenzy or extreme poision
    Then to the skills
    BT=blade tempest
    Dp=divine pyrogram
    SR=stonerain
    But what does the others mean
    And to the gemie:what does blinding sand do, and what other skills should i take?

    Thanks Fire
  • shuzan
    shuzan Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    _makina_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Naw no need for thanks it happens to readers who are just skimming not reading the whole thing out. I doubt the person who accused you of not knowing your class even comes back or posts again in the same thread due to hmmm...pride issues of the fail at a flame.
    I have an 83 wizard. I misread the post.

    GG
  • shuzan
    shuzan Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    well when your lvl 60 clerics are running around with under the average gear. A sparked tempest in my combination can kill a vit cleric. thats the point of hitting them with gush to take out a bit of there HP (my gush hits clerics for 900) then a BT (hits for about 2k-2.3k)

    demon spark BT FTW?
    You will want a sage Black Ice Dragon Strike rather than a Demon Blade Tempest. Take my word for this.
  • meaangirl
    meaangirl Posts: 321 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    archers arent hard if you use the right skills
    pull out your archer genie who must have the skills blinding sand and tree of protection then your choice of frenzy or extreme poison, i recommend the latter.

    single spark > FoW > blinding sand(genie) > extreme poison(genie) > sutra > GS > SS > DP or SR > dead archer

    this works wonders on LA wizards too ^^

    FAC's
    BT - they wont live, if they do they arent FAC

    Vit clerics
    single spark > gush > BT

    if it says single spark, you need max chi at lvl 59+.

    BT doesn't 1shot an FAC, even if you dont have any vit. And by the way, clerics have sleep. Who would let you cast a BT? Once you're slept, double spark, razor feathers, plume shot, dead.
  • Piliener - Lost City
    Piliener - Lost City Posts: 589 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Essential Sutra and go for the 4 hit combo on BM's and Archers (make sure to stay close to the archers).

    Blade Tempest for any Robe wearers

    Black Ice Dragon with Xtreme Poison for Heave Armour wearers (not it's not a oneshot), usually sandstorm or will of phoenix to kill them after.

    See a nix run anything else knockback the pet into the veno and aoe both of them just pick one itll die.
    Spoons you will forever be missed in this community
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Firstly i feel as if you have insulted my intellect. I said nothing of demon or sage skills. FYI i am going sage for multiple reasons including the one you said.

    Next, BT does one shot FACs. FACs my lvl have no more than 1.6k HP. My BT does 2k-2.3k that one shots. Cleric sleep is no problem. Let them sleep you, tree of protection channel BT. Once they sleep you, they got nothing but plume shot left and if you got correct items plume shot only hits you for 600.

    as for fire magician

    single spark > Force Of Will > Blinding Sand (genie skill earth 1) > extreme poison (genie skill wood 4) > sutra > sandstorm > glacial snare > Divine Pyrogram or Stone Rain (which ever is stronger) they archer will not live if they are in your level range.
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • shuzan
    shuzan Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Firstly i feel as if you have insulted my intellect. I said nothing of demon or sage skills. FYI i am going sage for multiple reasons including the one you said.

    Next, BT does one shot FACs. FACs my lvl have no more than 1.6k HP. My BT does 2k-2.3k that one shots. Cleric sleep is no problem. Let them sleep you, tree of protection channel BT. Once they sleep you, they got nothing but plume shot left and if you got correct items plume shot only hits you for 600.

    as for fire magician

    single spark > Force Of Will > Blinding Sand (genie skill earth 1) > extreme poison (genie skill wood 4) > sutra > sandstorm > glacial snare > Divine Pyrogram or Stone Rain (which ever is stronger) they archer will not live if they are in your level range.
    Any cleric that calls themselves FAC's suck. PvP real clerics
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    wow i havent seen this thread in a while b:bye
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Piliener - Lost City
    Piliener - Lost City Posts: 589 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Let it stay dead in the future shuzan :)
    Spoons you will forever be missed in this community
  • shuzan
    shuzan Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Piliener - Lost City wrote: »
    Let it stay dead in the future shuzan :)
    Nah. Necro is awesome.
  • Calliope - Heavens Tear
    Calliope - Heavens Tear Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Once they sleep you, they got nothing but plume shot left and if you got correct items plume shot only hits you for 600.
    BT doesn't hit very hard when they put Plume Shell up. Or when they purify away Undine/Poison. Or if they have a genie. Or apoth pots.

    One shotting a cleric in a one on one fight just doesn't happen, in my experience. You have to get the drop on them or have someone else distract them.
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Sleep helps a lot, if they're not expecting it. Undine -> sleep -> BT/amp

    Instant cast ftw :D
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  • Calliope - Heavens Tear
    Calliope - Heavens Tear Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I want Soporific Whisper. b:cry

    I finally saved up almost enough spirit, now I just need to get the rest of the pages.
  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Undecided between Whisper and Undine, leaning towards undine.
    Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.

    Send me a mail if you wanna ask/request anything

    Sanctuary's retired king of wizards alongside queen Saintblu.
  • Calliope - Heavens Tear
    Calliope - Heavens Tear Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    I already have Undine, it's the better one for sure. I just want Whisper tooooooooooo.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Calliope - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    BT doesn't hit very hard when they put Plume Shell up. Or when they purify away Undine/Poison. Or if they have a genie. Or apoth pots.

    One shotting a cleric in a one on one fight just doesn't happen, in my experience. You have to get the drop on them or have someone else distract them.

    Calliope they are FACs nothing else to say b:chuckle
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze

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