Which Faction would take a territory first?

Onlyjayy - Heavens Tear
Onlyjayy - Heavens Tear Posts: 171 Arc User
edited July 2009 in Etherblade (West)
I've seen, recently, many newb factions fighting for a territory war. These factions include -
Alianza
Knights
Blade
Odinblade
and PartyWipe

I can't help but wonder which one would be the first faction from this list to win a territory?
Tell me why please b:embarrass
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  • Rockyk - Heavens Tear
    Rockyk - Heavens Tear Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    If any one PartyWipe they have way more Exp in TW than all the rest b:laugh
  • lazyness
    lazyness Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    none of the above, at least in the near future

    the smaller guilds who don't currently have a territory are just nowhere near challenging any of the big guilds at the moment, both in numbers and also levels, as well as tw experience
  • SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,225 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Enlighten

    10char
    "Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory.
    Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." ~Sun Tzu

    "Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"
    ~Iron Mike Tyson Enrage.omgforum.net
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  • shuzan
    shuzan Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    None of them
  • Rophe - Heavens Tear
    Rophe - Heavens Tear Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    The pattern is to gank whoever appears to be the weakest on the map... So whichever non-land holding faction gets the most favorable time slot in a mass gank will be the first land holder.

    The problem most factions have is getting a serious and solid 80 online and prepared for war (easier for some than others). That problem is amplified in smaller factions. Unless some faction starts having big problems (next weakest is probably Radiance) than the little guys don't stand a chance.
  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    They may get a land but it wont be earned it will be given
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    They may get a land but it wont be earned it will be given

    If you make it to map, it is earned. The "given" excuse is just used to justify the fact that you could not befend your lands.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    If you make it to map, it is earned. The "given" excuse is just used to justify the fact that you could not befend your lands.

    Well srry i believe in Honor and a fair fight i mean if u choose to gank someone and u get a good time slot and get free land gratz on being smart and lucky dont think u earned anythign though
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Well srry i believe in Honor and a fair fight i mean if u choose to gank someone and u get a good time slot and get free land gratz on being smart and lucky dont think u earned anythign though

    If your uber faction cannot hold the land, they are not that uber.....
    Being smart and lucky is part of the game.
    If you send your people and you loose the land, that it was honorable.

    Also, if you believe in honor, than do not make fun or deminish the accomplishment of a smaller faction that got on the map. That shows that you have no honor yourself, they did not cheat to get the land, therefore it was honorable. You should congratulate them on their achievement, and if you are not happy, war dec them the following week.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    If your uber faction cannot hold the land, they are not that uber.....
    Being smart and lucky is part of the game.
    If you send your people and you loose the land, that it was honorable.

    Also, if you believe in honor, than do not make fun or deminish the accomplishment of a smaller faction that got on the map. That shows that you have no honor yourself, they did not cheat to get the land, therefore it was honorable. You should congratulate them on their achievement, and if you are not happy, war dec them the following week.

    Listen if someone beat the faction i was in in a 3 way gank i would say good fight enjoy the land and we would wipe them off the map the next week but if they won because they just attacked because of the ganking then there is no honor in their win and they didnt "earn" it
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Listen if someone beat the faction i was in in a 3 way gank i would say good fight enjoy the land and we would wipe them off the map the next week but if they won because they just attacked because of the ganking then there is no honor in their win and they didnt "earn" it

    Your first post said "They may get a land but it wont be earned it will be given".
    You keep talking about fair and honor.... how is it fair that the large faction has more gold and high level players and more players? You mean that if 80 level 90+s show up to defend a land attacked by 40 level 70s that the large faction has no honor and is not playing fair? What should the large faction do? give the land to the small faction? HAve all their high levels log out?

    You know Honor is a two way street, even if you try to make it that only the small faction has to have honor amd play fair....
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Listen if u have to gank a faction to get land u dont deserve the land so go ahead and grab it but dont think u earned it
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Listen if u have to gank a faction to get land u dont deserve the land so go ahead and grab it but dont think u earned it

    I thought that line was familiar. I guess after Rad "gave" land to Enrage by not even showing up to the wars, that Enrage did not earn where they are, since Rad guild "gave" them their start up land.....

    And please do answer the part of where is the honor and how is it fair for 80 level 90+s defending a land from 40 level 70s? It is not fair nor honorable.. that is why you cannot explain this.

    If they did not cheat to get on the map, they deserve it. If your guild is too weak to defend the land from the attacks, so be it, but don't make excuses for it with all the Honor and Fair stuff. There are lots of maps that are locked by one or two factions, and they are successful in defending their lands from attack. It is actualy so bad that lots of people keep asking for map resets!!!
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Ok well about ur Enrage thing Rad did show up to the first Enrage fight so that destroys ur point.



    I mean let ppl gank go ahead but dont say u earn anything i in Rad have waited for Evo to finish their other TWs so it was a fair 1v1 fight when Rad fought Blade Blade agreed to wait on us and i respect them for it
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Ok well about ur Enrage thing Rad did show up to the first Enrage fight so that destroys ur point.



    I mean let ppl gank go ahead but dont say u earn anything i in Rad have waited for Evo to finish their other TWs so it was a fair 1v1 fight when Rad fought Blade Blade agreed to wait on us and i respect them for it

    Is that why Enrage kept calling Rad out because you guys would not show up?

    It is great that other guilds waited, I am not going to say that was not a nice gesture.

    Can you please address the honor part though? Where is the Honor on a guild with 80 level 90+s defending land from an attack from a guild with 40 level 70s?
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Is that why Enrage kept calling Rad out because you guys would not show up?

    It is great that other guilds waited, I am not going to say that was not a nice gesture.

    Can you please address the honor part though? Where is the Honor on a guild with 80 level 90+s defending land from an attack from a guild with 40 level 70s?

    Rad didnt show up to the Enrage fight because it made no sense to do so why dont u ask Enrage why they didnt show up to the caesar fight few weeks ago (not a shot at Enrage just proving my point) Because u have to make choices and sometimes give up a land i know Enrage wouldve won against Rad but do u think Enrage thinks they earned the land?


    Ok the Honor in that is the point that the lvl 70s picked to attack lvl 90s thats their fault and its the attacking fault for having more lands they can defend but just because they lost the land didnt mean the attacking faction earned it

    **Edit** also a faction lacking Honor would stand at the 70s spawn point and just AoE them before they could do anything
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Rad didnt show up to the Enrage fight because it made no sense to do so why dont u ask Enrage why they didnt show up to the caesar fight few weeks ago (not a shot at Enrage just proving my point) Because u have to make choices and sometimes give up a land i know Enrage wouldve won against Rad but do u think Enrage thinks they earned the land?


    Their weekly coin balance says they earned it and you lost it.

    Not showing up for a fight, when it comes to honor, is worse than showing up, putting up a fight and loosing.

    You can only get 3 attacks at the same time. Level 3 guilds can have 200 members, that means they can field 2 full teams and one 40 person team. If you gave up without a fight only means that your guild was not ready, and obviously had too many territories to defend for its quality. It has nothing to do with honor.

    On the AOE attack on spawn. I would have to agree that is not an honorable thing to do.

    Back in the days Rad was the top guild, I remember well Rad being able to defend all their lands from 20 attacks on a weekeend..... And they controled just about 2/3s of the map
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,225 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Rad didnt show up to the Enrage fight because it made no sense to do so why dont u ask Enrage why they didnt show up to the caesar fight few weeks ago (not a shot at Enrage just proving my point) Because u have to make choices and sometimes give up a land i know Enrage wouldve won against Rad but do u think Enrage thinks they earned the land?


    Ok the Honor in that is the point that the lvl 70s picked to attack lvl 90s thats their fault and its the attacking fault for having more lands they can defend but just because they lost the land didnt mean the attacking faction earned it

    **Edit** also a faction lacking Honor would stand at the 70s spawn point and just AoE them before they could do anything

    We didn't show up for Caesar do to being 3v1 and not having the man power to defend 3 lands.

    In the past Rad no-showed 1v1 battles against Enrage.

    Completely different circumstances.
    "Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory.
    Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." ~Sun Tzu

    "Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"
    ~Iron Mike Tyson Enrage.omgforum.net
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    We didn't show up for Caesar do to being 3v1 and not having the man power to defend 3 lands.

    In the past Rad no-showed 1v1 battles against Enrage.

    Completely different circumstances.

    It was a strategic decision for them to not show up, that way your victory has no meaning and your guild no honor, since you did not really earn that land (even if you end up 20 million richer at the end of the week).
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    It was a strategic decision for them to not show up, that way your victory has no meaning and your guild no honor, since you did not really earn that land (even if you end up 20 million richer at the end of the week).

    ...or it could show that they're plain scared of Enrage, and knew they were gonna lose, so why fight a losing battle? Coulda sword I heard someone from Radiance say that before...looks like I'm on a post hunt!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Yeah, it's me. Don't read to much into it, though; I'm only here for myself now, killin' time and chillin' when need-be. So sue me. Tch...
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ...or it could show that they're plain scared of Enrage, and knew they were gonna lose, so why fight a losing battle? Coulda sword I heard someone from Radiance say that before...looks like I'm on a post hunt!

    Crazydan is from Rad, and keeps mentioning honor and fair... I was just trying to have him explain why is it when a small faction gets land, he says it was given to them, and they have no honor in ganking a large faction, but when the large faction simply does not show up they are making "strategic decisions" and there is no mention how unhonorable it is to not show up for a fight.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ...or it could show that they're plain scared of Enrage, and knew they were gonna lose, so why fight a losing battle? Coulda sword I heard someone from Radiance say that before...looks like I'm on a post hunt!

    i know what u r doing thinking she is from Rad she isnt so forget that and shocker Enrage trolls im outta this thread
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  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Now I'm confused. b:sad Ah, well. Another debate, brought to a stop by me: Konari Raiden; thread killer! b:victory
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Yeah, it's me. Don't read to much into it, though; I'm only here for myself now, killin' time and chillin' when need-be. So sue me. Tch...
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Crazydan, I am sure Konariraiden did not think I was from Rad. After all I have been arguing with you, and we know you are from Rad.....

    Good way to bail on having to explain the honor thing though.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I am sure Konariraiden did not think I was from Rad. After all I have been arguing with you, and we know you are from Rad.....

    Good way to bail on having to explain the honor thing though.

    Erm...actually...I never really knew/cared what factions you two were in. I'm in Tao, if you don't know. ^^;; I don't know who we're gunning for while I post this...but honestly, I don't really care who it is. Even though we're lost against Enrage a fairly decent amount of times, I've really learned a lot about the aspects of TW, and what my most suitable role is. Hell, if it wasn't for those hour, hour-and-a-half, even three-hour battles, I wouldn't have learned a damn thing!

    So I personally thank you, Enrage, for showing up to our fights and giving me a great taste of what a challenging TW is truly like! ~.^
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Yeah, it's me. Don't read to much into it, though; I'm only here for myself now, killin' time and chillin' when need-be. So sue me. Tch...
  • Krasava - Heavens Tear
    Krasava - Heavens Tear Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Well, Crazy Danny should not participate in TW this weekend against Triad, cuz it don't look all that "honorable" to me.

    What, with Enrage and Tao attacking Triad, Radiance is sure looking to grab a very DIShonorable freebee of a land.

    Matter of fact, Crazy Danny, you should leave such dishonorable guild at once, you hear? b:beatenup

    Oh, the bullsh!t that some ppl come up with. Hilarious! b:chuckle
  • Krasava - Heavens Tear
    Krasava - Heavens Tear Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Onlyjayy - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I've seen, recently, many newb factions fighting for a territory war. These factions include -
    Alianza
    Knights
    Blade
    Odinblade
    and PartyWipe

    I can't help but wonder which one would be the first faction from this list to win a territory?
    Tell me why please

    There are much stronger guilds that do not own land on this server who are much better positioned to grab a land in the event of a lucky collective gank.

    Why did you list all these 20-some million refund nonentities? b:question
  • Plicid - Heavens Tear
    Plicid - Heavens Tear Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Sadly with how TW map is atm if one of those faction got land they wouldnt keep it more than a week or 2 and probably couldnt get a 2nd land. I like to see Variety on the TW map but currently it is becoming a elite club TW map. Pretty soon TW will be a 89+ only thing to be in main party of any big TW faction.
  • BeccaD - Heavens Tear
    BeccaD - Heavens Tear Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    Partywipe....even though I am an ex member of OdinBlade.
  • Stickygreen - Heavens Tear
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,158 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    i say PTF will take a land next week
    Less QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks

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