What shards to use?

Dimental - Harshlands
Dimental - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
edited July 2009 in Wizard
I've just got my new level 70 armours.

TT70 - Snow Dance (Arcane) Robes, Sleaves and Boots

Mold - Hades (Arcane) Pants

Each has 4 sockets and I will be refining each to +3


What do you guys advise I use to shard each socket? I've never sharded anything before but am willing to spend money where its needed.
I already have two flawless physical defence shards and 1 flawless HP shard.
Dimental - Little bit dim, little bit mental

Celestial - b:victory
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  • Nerithos - Sanctuary
    Nerithos - Sanctuary Posts: 370 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Another flawless HP shard should do quite nicely.
  • Dimental - Harshlands
    Dimental - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I was only considering using flawless in the pants of Hades as these will have a resale value, however the other pieces will have to be decomposed upon getting to level 80 for my next sets of armour, would it be a wiser choice to stick with beautiful shards for these instead?
    Dimental - Little bit dim, little bit mental

    Celestial - b:victory
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    You really shouldn't use flawless gems, either garnet or citrine, on tt70 robes. It's just a waste. TT70 mats and gear prices are dropping fast now that the hercs from recent sof/feather sales are coming of age. Use beautiful shards instead. The difference isn't big.

    If you don't wear pdef ornaments (which tt70 robe wearers should), or have some vit, definitely use garnet. If you wear pdef ornaments, and is pure build, use citrine.
  • Dimental - Harshlands
    Dimental - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    b:victory thanks for the advice, I'm pretty sure the pants dont get replaced till TT90? But can see your point with the TT70 stuff specially with me going to be decomposing them its just like throwing money away!

    If I add garnet first I get a red glow right?
    Dimental - Little bit dim, little bit mental

    Celestial - b:victory
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Dimental - Harshlands wrote: »
    b:victory thanks for the advice, I'm pretty sure the pants dont get replaced till TT90? But can see your point with the TT70 stuff specially with me going to be decomposing them its just like throwing money away!

    If I add garnet first I get a red glow right?

    Not sure what happens if you mix them. But 2 or more garnets for red glow, 2 or more citrine for purple.
  • Dimental - Harshlands
    Dimental - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Thanks, I just don't want my nice yellow armour to have a purple glow b:victory
    Dimental - Little bit dim, little bit mental

    Celestial - b:victory
  • Godofdarknes - Lost City
    Godofdarknes - Lost City Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You really shouldn't use flawless gems, either garnet or citrine, on tt70 robes. It's just a waste. TT70 mats and gear prices are dropping fast now that the hercs from recent sof/feather sales are coming of age. Use beautiful shards instead. The difference isn't big.

    If you wear pdef ornaments (which tt70 robe wearers should), or have some vit, definitely use garnet. If you wear pdef ornaments, and is pure build, use citrine.

    depends if you do a lot of pvp like i do. I have mostly average pdef shards(except for cape and sleeves which both have G6 pdefs) with the exception of my boots which are G6 citrines(my cape,chest,pants,hat and sleeves) then in my weapon(sakyuminis light) i have two immaculants with +5 some say its a waste but hey most of them are oneshotsb:chuckle it all depends on how much you can afford really. Anyways this is coming from a wizard who is hard to take down even for higher lvs(except ganking archersb:angry)
  • Godofdarknes - Lost City
    Godofdarknes - Lost City Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Im getting my HH80 armor and wepon so would this be a waste
    A wand sunflame with two incomparable(G10) sapphires and +8
    all armor with 4 sockets and G7 garnets and +4 or +5 havent decided yet
  • Cryxtal - Sanctuary
    Cryxtal - Sanctuary Posts: 168 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    i dont have a preference if u are using arcane, because flawless is good as u got low pdef and thus need MUCH higher hp if u want to be needed for RBs !

    On the other hand, where u have good barbs and Bms to do aggro, then dont waste money on flawless but just stick to all average shards, and have a vit+10 tome.

    Conclusion if u are rich, all flawless, if not use average as with RB its so easy to lvl up ( i cant stress how easy it is , its just so easy ) providing u have a trustworthy barb XD.
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  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    g10 stones? the hell is the point. with the amount of money it would take to make them, you could've +10'd that weapon.
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Godofdarknes - Lost City wrote: »
    Im getting my HH80 armor and wepon so would this be a waste
    A wand sunflame with two incomparable(G10) sapphires and +8
    all armor with 4 sockets and G7 garnets and +4 or +5 havent decided yet

    I lol'd.
    b:laugh
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    i would save those g10 shards for TT 90 wep, TT 99 wep, Sinrabansho, Nature Talker or warsoul. using them that early isnt gonna be helpful
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    g10 stones? the hell is the point. with the amount of money it would take to make them, you could've +10'd that weapon.

    They drop, fairly reliably, from rebirth.

    Edit: no, I was wrong: G8 drop from rebirths and G9 drop from world bosses. G10 must be combined from G9s.
  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    g8 and g9 drop from rebirth. g10 isn't given by any quest or dropped by any mob.
  • FireMagican - Sanctuary
    FireMagican - Sanctuary Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    you should make flawless hp stones in your eqipt (maybe 1-2 pdef stones)
    and matk into weapon

    Fire


    //edit, because didn't read the question first
  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    But can be made from lower grade.
    Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.

    Send me a mail if you wanna ask/request anything

    Sanctuary's retired king of wizards alongside queen Saintblu.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    FireMagican - Sanctuary wrote: »
    you should make flawless hp stones in your eqipt (maybe 1-2 pdef stones)
    and matk into weapon

    Fire


    //edit, because didn't read the question first



    your joking right >.>
    Your armor gets citrine and garnets, your weapon gets sapphires. And the wizard lived happily ever after and was able to get ganked in DT b:thanks
    Dont focus in one, it will not help unless your LA
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Keep in mind that even though the gold TT80 wand pwns in term of bonus stats, it's bound to you. The wand and stones in it are wasted once you hit lvl 89/90 and switch weapon.
  • Godofdarknes - Lost City
    Godofdarknes - Lost City Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    thanks for the advice guys however as far as it being a waste i want my weapons and armor to be the best on the server
    atm with my lv 70 HH armor i have 3k raw pdef and 5k mag attack with a crit of 5% and im arcane armor( o and did i mention 11k earth def with earth sheild)
    i have 70 vit
    40 str
    295 mag
    and 5 dex
    and as far as my HH 99 or legendary 10x wep ima try for G12s for the hell of it lol and +12 since i wont be needing any armor after that
  • Nerithos - Sanctuary
    Nerithos - Sanctuary Posts: 370 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    ...g12s. G'luck with that, mate.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    can someone say CS player? b:cool
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Calliope - Heavens Tear
    Calliope - Heavens Tear Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    A G12 stone takes 777,600 shabby shards, so it costs 412,128,000 coins if you combine from shabbies. If gold is 120k each, that's $34,344.00 per shard. Even if you can buy perfects at half price, you're looking at more than $17k per shard, and you'll want, what, 2 (wep) + 4 x 6 (top, pants, shoes, wrists, cape, hat) = 26 total? $446,000 is a lot of money. Almost half a million dollars.

    By comparison, +12 on all your gear will run you like $22,000ish. Do that instead if you really need to waste money.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    once again, CS player b:cool
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • WitchBurner - Sanctuary
    WitchBurner - Sanctuary Posts: 1,394 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    You can submit a ticket to raise the limit. Still, anyone with grade 12's is likely a no-lifer or a land-owning factions spoilt leader.
    Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.

    Send me a mail if you wanna ask/request anything

    Sanctuary's retired king of wizards alongside queen Saintblu.
  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    with each gateway. say you have 3 credit cards, a bank card, and a paypal account; that's $500 per day. given that they only have that, half a million would be put into this game over the course of 1,000 days. that's 2.7 years.

    now assume they have 1 credit card, a bank card, paypal, google checkout account, pay-by-phone access, 1 prepaid card a day, click and buy account, ukash account, ultimate gamer card, rixty and paysafe.

    that's 11 gateways. that's spending $1,100 a day. that's 454 days, and about 1.3 years.
  • Kannone - Heavens Tear
    Kannone - Heavens Tear Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Calliope - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    A G12 stone takes 777,600 shabby shards, so it costs 412,128,000 coins if you combine from shabbies. If gold is 120k each, that's $34,344.00 per shard. Even if you can buy perfects at half price, you're looking at more than $17k per shard, and you'll want, what, 2 (wep) + 4 x 6 (top, pants, shoes, wrists, cape, hat) = 26 total? $446,000 is a lot of money. Almost half a million dollars.

    By comparison, +12 on all your gear will run you like $22,000ish. Do that instead if you really need to waste money.
    Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    with each gateway. say you have 3 credit cards, a bank card, and a paypal account; that's $500 per day. given that they only have that, half a million would be put into this game over the course of 1,000 days. that's 2.7 years.

    now assume they have 1 credit card, a bank card, paypal, google checkout account, pay-by-phone access, 1 prepaid card a day, click and buy account, ukash account, ultimate gamer card, rixty and paysafe.

    that's 11 gateways. that's spending $1,100 a day. that's 454 days, and about 1.3 years.

    that's freakin awesome LMAO

    I would like... bow in reverence to the person who A.) is willing to enter that much debt in PWI (a god b:thanks) -OR- B.) actually has that much extra money & time to play this game (a different kind of god) and -OR- C.) (my favorite)- has the perfect combination of balls + parents' credit cards to make this work...

    lol either way that's hillarious that you guys figured out the actual cost of being invincible in PW... thanks Calli & Forp

    b:bye
  • Tsuyoginos - Heavens Tear
    Tsuyoginos - Heavens Tear Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited July 2009
    In all the guides I've read and people I've spoken to. Pures stack up on citrine and garnet, while LA's stack up on citrine. Pretty much you have to imbue gems to counteract your weaknesses, except evasion.
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