Zhenners..
Zuuka - Sanctuary
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To start off I was AoE grinding alone at Seaweed Thieves, apparently there was a Zhen squad close by doing their thing. I was was trying to mob my little area I was at, when I get this PM, Telling me they were zhenning and telling me to leave.
I said no of course, I told them I was grinding too, and they told me I was hurting their exp. I asked them if they thought their exp was more important then mine and they just told me to go grind somewhere else and justified to me there was 6 of them vs 1 of me.
I refused, then I get these rude PMs, such as being inbred, something about being emo, and something about my parents not loving me. They even went as far as to try to provoke me to PK mode, saying I was scared and the likes. After they had finished their zhenning before the Wizard left he Blade Tempests my mob to stick it to me. This isn't the first time this has happened.
I was just wondering has this ever happened to you anyone? What did you do about it?
I said no of course, I told them I was grinding too, and they told me I was hurting their exp. I asked them if they thought their exp was more important then mine and they just told me to go grind somewhere else and justified to me there was 6 of them vs 1 of me.
I refused, then I get these rude PMs, such as being inbred, something about being emo, and something about my parents not loving me. They even went as far as to try to provoke me to PK mode, saying I was scared and the likes. After they had finished their zhenning before the Wizard left he Blade Tempests my mob to stick it to me. This isn't the first time this has happened.
I was just wondering has this ever happened to you anyone? What did you do about it?
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You were being polite and they started whining.
WWDD
What would defected do?
I'd show them that they need to appreciate when a BM is being nice and not interfering with a zhen.
Start aoe grinding in the middle of there zhen center.
Or, just gather up all the mobs before they do.
That's what I'd do.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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if you get lucky and the archer or cleric is in PVP mode, AOE stun them as the puller brings the mobs in
. AOE levelers are generally buttholes and selfish. even worse are the stupid clerics at spiders who try to mob every spider and take like 3-4 mins to kill them at the 96 spider area. i generally find AOEing and finishing their mobs before they can kill them to be fairly effective. 0 -
I've had problems with the aoe squads at the spiders on my veno. My veno has a herc so I like to aoe grind myself of course, I only take around 6-7 mobs each time. I was grinding on the hill, closer to the camp of the intrepid for a good few hours before this zhen mob rock up.
They ask me politley to stay on the other side of the hill. It was a decent request so I obliged, however when they decided to start gathering mobs where I was also, not only in their area I got ticked off. So I invaded their side of the hill, killing mobs near their zhen spot and they complained, I told them why I did that and went back to my area.
However their cleric kept pulling mobs from my area so I kept stealing from theirs. They were taking almost all the spiders >_>;
What gets me is how zhen squads like to seem to think they have these big "RESERVED" signs on all the mobs~[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Skitles - Heavens Tear wrote: »I've had problems with the aoe squads at the spiders on my veno. My veno has a herc so I like to aoe grind myself of course, I only take around 6-7 mobs each time. I was grinding on the hill, closer to the camp of the intrepid for a good few hours before this zhen mob rock up.
They ask me politley to stay on the other side of the hill. It was a decent request so I obliged, however when they decided to start gathering mobs where I was also, not only in their area I got ticked off. So I invaded their side of the hill, killing mobs near their zhen spot and they complained, I told them why I did that and went back to my area.
However their cleric kept pulling mobs from my area so I kept stealing from theirs. They were taking almost all the spiders >_>;
What gets me is how zhen squads like to seem to think they have these big "RESERVED" signs on all the mobs~
I agree with you 100%, I try to stay in one are. Those Zhenners try to be everywhere trying to take every mob, especially when you're waiting for more to spawn.0 -
im refering to lethal arenied sharpfangs in avalanche ridge, theyre level 96 and ONLY poison, so they just sit there and ironheart over and over and its annoying how slow they kill ~_~I've had problems with the aoe squads at the spiders on my veno. My veno has a herc so I like to aoe grind myself of course, I only take around 6-7 mobs each time. I was grinding on the hill, closer to the camp of the intrepid for a good few hours before this zhen mob rock up.0 -
well, you should try to respect zhenners. If they ask politely try to find another grinding spot. Zhenners spend a lot of money and try to get their money's worth. If they get mean, you have full permission to KS them. b:chuckleSins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »well, you should try to respect zhenners. If they ask politely try to find another grinding spot. Zhenners spend a lot of money and try to get their money's worth. If they get mean, you have full permission to KS them. b:chuckle
Well I was staying in my area, I have a right to grind peacefully to. Would you just leave just because someone asked nicely? I try to respect them but it's hard when they're trying to claim the whole area and being childish by PMing trash at you. Its not like only zhenners are spending money. My money is worth as much as theirs.0 -
Zuuka - Sanctuary wrote: »Well I was staying in my area, I have a right to grind peacefully to. Would you just leave just because someone asked nicely? I try to respect them but it's hard when they're trying to claim the whole area and being childish by PMing trash at you. Its not like only zhenners are spending money. My money is worth as much as theirs.
that was my argument about a nightscream thread about AOE levelers a while back. their faction mates tried to defend their barbaric behavior because 'they were there first,' as if it makes any difference. no one cares if theyre wasting supplies to be greedy, aggresive leveling tactics are just plain rude, and oft times inefficient (lol at venos/clerics trying to AOE level.) if i pay for my charm and esoterica too, how am i any less of a customer? and even then if i cant afford CS items, who says the CS users are more important than i? its rather bull that they think everything belongs to them0 -
Zuuka - Sanctuary wrote: »To start off I was AoE grinding alone at Seaweed Thieves, apparently there was a Zhen squad close by doing their thing. I was was trying to mob my little area I was at, when I get this PM, Telling me they were zhenning and telling me to leave.
I said no of course, I told them I was grinding too, and they told me I was hurting their exp. I asked them if they thought their exp was more important then mine and they just told me to go grind somewhere else and justified to me there was 6 of them vs 1 of me.
I refused, then I get these rude PMs, such as being inbred, something about being emo, and something about my parents not loving me. They even went as far as to try to provoke me to PK mode, saying I was scared and the likes. After they had finished their zhenning before the Wizard left he Blade Tempests my mob to stick it to me. This isn't the first time this has happened.
I was just wondering has this ever happened to you anyone? What did you do about it?
Wow, I can't believe some of the people that play this game. Especially when they don't get their way. I'd say, screen shot the incident and send it in for harassment because that's really the only thing you can do. Unless you blacklist and then everything should be fine. But when you're there first, you've got first dibs especially if there is more than one place with the same mobs and same amount of them. It's lack of respect and maturity when doing this, be the bigger person. And besides, if they were perfectly fine for a certain amount of time before contacting you and harassing you, then that's stepping over the line. People should be able to grind, childish behavior doesn't solve anything and just like people always say two wrongs don't make a right, it's absolutely correct and people don't think of it or anything in that matter before they do something about the [situation]. I haven't had the problem of getting crappy whispers or PMs, but I have had the problem in the past where people have ks'd me out of frustration I suppose. I was grinding near Dreamweaver, not positive what the mobs are named but anyway, someone said in world chat not to go near them after they appeared there after me. I was like, "I wasn't planning on it?" But it seems to me as if you have selfish people on your hands.You've got to take the good with the bad, smile with the sad, love what you've got, and remember what you had. Always forgive, but never forget. Learn from mistakes, but never regret.0 -
Its really selfish to expect to take every single mob in an area, even though they were zhenning. Theres only so many mobs for the number of people that play here.Fyrah - Sanctuary wrote: »Wow, I can't believe some of the people that play this game. Especially when they don't get their way. I'd say, screen shot the incident and send it in for harassment because that's really the only thing you can do. Unless you blacklist and then everything should be fine. But when you're there first, you've got first dibs especially if there is more than one place with the same mobs and same amount of them. It's lack of respect and maturity when doing this, be the bigger person. And besides, if they were perfectly fine for a certain amount of time before contacting you and harassing you, then that's stepping over the line. People should be able to grind, childish behavior doesn't solve anything and just like people always say two wrongs don't make a right, it's absolutely correct and people don't think of it or anything in that matter before they do something about the [situation]. I haven't had the problem of getting crappy whispers or PMs, but I have had the problem in the past where people have ks'd me out of frustration I suppose. I was grinding near Dreamweaver, not positive what the mobs are named but anyway, someone said in world chat not to go near them after they appeared there after me. I was like, "I wasn't planning on it?" But it seems to me as if you have selfish people on your hands.0 -
Zuuka - Sanctuary wrote: »Its really selfish to expect to take every single mob in an area, even though they were zhenning. Theres only so many mobs for the number of people that play here.
Yes, that's true and that's also a reason why some of the mobs run back. (:You've got to take the good with the bad, smile with the sad, love what you've got, and remember what you had. Always forgive, but never forget. Learn from mistakes, but never regret.0 -
But when you're there first, you've got first dibs especially if there is more than one place with the same mobs and same amount of them.
This is like making up rules as you go along. The only rule I can see in the game that was violated was that of harassment. It would have been polite for the single person to find something else to do since those people had invested in charms and scrolls, but Zhen squads are also kinda like organized crime gangs which tend to make up their own rules. It sounds like they were all impolite, but some stepped over the line of being acceptable.
If we care, we may want to send in support tickets suggesting they make some instances for zhenners (like an fb where only people in the party appear) so they'd have nothing to complain about. Or they could just sell people the xp straight up and disable the ability to zhen.
I've run into one of those clerics that think they own the whole area and kill slow also. They had the nerve to accuse me of kill stealing. I kept quiet and just kept killing. Accusations of KS'ing are just way overblown especially in light of the rules people make up for themselves, lag playing visual tricks, and the game itself allowing certain things. Harassment can simply be resolved with a support ticket.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
When I grinded on seaweed things awhile back, I remember there was a zhen squad nearby. To avoid conflict, I decided to stay out in the outer edge where I can pull several mobs to myself peacefully and the zhenners have their huge group of mobs to pull for themselves.
Well, there were instances - many instances where the lurers would go all the way out towards where I am, and at the same time, I'm already pulling something they're about to go after and they start throwing a hissy fit saying that I'm stealing their mobs from their pull when good and well, I was already going after it before they even peeked over the hill. =_=; So, what the one barb did was that he did that roar thing and took all my mobs. >_> But...
That sorta failed anyway because mobs came back running with aggro reset...xD
So that's one thing I don't understand - why do people pull mobs that just run back anyway because of aggro lost?0 -
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i always try to stay out of the zhenners way since i don't like them stealin my mobs and vice versa. but what annoys me is when you're in a group zhenning and people deliberately lure all the mobs away so ur wastin mp charms and the xp scroll. there are quite a few people i noe in heaven's tear that are known for disruptin zhen groups. b:angry
but yea, bak to topic, if zhenners are trespassing in your area even though u moved away from them, then disrupt their zhen, i would do the same b:chuckle0 -
Not condoning this(might count as griefing), but you can try the opposite and pull as many mobs as you can to the zhen, the DD/cleric isn't very alert during zhen so this usually wipes them, magic/ranged mobs are great for this.Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.
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I would've continue to kill the mobs as if they weren't there and of course AoE their mobs while I'm at if they take up the entire spawn.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Witchburner - Sanctuary wrote: »Not condoning this(might count as griefing), but you can try the opposite and pull as many mobs as you can to the zhen, the DD/cleric isn't very alert during zhen so this usually wipes them, magic/ranged mobs are great for this.
thats what I would do if someone steals my mobs.
I am a barb, I would use roar and attract the most mobs I can, then I will gently deliver the mobs to the zhen party until I wipe then out.Happy Sauce face
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Been on both sides of this discussion, as lure and solo AOE grind. Fallenangelx is right about zhen-disruptors, had a friend tell me about some folks who would repeatedly lure a world boss onto the AOE array. And with the casters burning both charm AND eso, there's a certain kind of 'responsiblity' for the lure to bring in as many as possible - when respawns are low, that might mean ranging farther out.
Be that as it may, it's certainly no excuse for being a jerk about it. If you've got a territory already staked out BEFORE they set up camp, well, that's poor planning on their part and if their exp gain suffers they've only themselves to blame. Being obnoxious is simply icing on the Fail-cake.
(re: Jaeseu - dumb barb should've used an AOE like surf impact or sunder to hold 'em better. XD Hope you got a good laugh out of that one.)0 -
luring more mobs to our zhen actually was helpful to us...it didn't wipe any of us out >>b:thanks
its just the luring away all the mobs that pissed all of us0 -
ah the joys of a pve server.0
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Witchburner - Sanctuary wrote: »Not condoning this(might count as griefing), but you can try the opposite and pull as many mobs as you can to the zhen, the DD/cleric isn't very alert during zhen so this usually wipes them, magic/ranged mobs are great for this.
Going to have to work SO hard not to do this now that you've mentioned it.
Oops, you guys didn't want those ranged/magic mobs? I couldn't help but see your friends gathering every damn thing on the beach and I just figured if you can't beat 'em, smother 'em.0 -
Zuuka - Sanctuary wrote: »To start off I was AoE grinding alone at Seaweed Thieves, apparently there was a Zhen squad close by doing their thing. I was was trying to mob my little area I was at, when I get this PM, Telling me they were zhenning and telling me to leave.
I said no of course, I told them I was grinding too, and they told me I was hurting their exp. I asked them if they thought their exp was more important then mine and they just told me to go grind somewhere else and justified to me there was 6 of them vs 1 of me.
I refused, then I get these rude PMs, such as being inbred, something about being emo, and something about my parents not loving me. They even went as far as to try to provoke me to PK mode, saying I was scared and the likes. After they had finished their zhenning before the Wizard left he Blade Tempests my mob to stick it to me. This isn't the first time this has happened.
I was just wondering has this ever happened to you anyone? What did you do about it?Defected - Heavens Tear wrote: »You were being polite and they started whining.
WWDD
What would defected do?
I'd show them that they need to appreciate when a BM is being nice and not interfering with a zhen.
Start aoe grinding in the middle of there zhen center.
Or, just gather up all the mobs before they do.
That's what I'd do.Skitles - Heavens Tear wrote: »I've had problems with the aoe squads at the spiders on my veno. My veno has a herc so I like to aoe grind myself of course, I only take around 6-7 mobs each time. I was grinding on the hill, closer to the camp of the intrepid for a good few hours before this zhen mob rock up.
They ask me politley to stay on the other side of the hill. It was a decent request so I obliged, however when they decided to start gathering mobs where I was also, not only in their area I got ticked off. So I invaded their side of the hill, killing mobs near their zhen spot and they complained, I told them why I did that and went back to my area.
However their cleric kept pulling mobs from my area so I kept stealing from theirs. They were taking almost all the spiders >_>;
What gets me is how zhen squads like to seem to think they have these big "RESERVED" signs on all the mobs~
if ur faction has at least a lvl 71 clerics 71 barb,veno and bm and 1 archer or veno
start ur own zhenning party it rly **** ppl off and most of the time they will leave b:victory (but be waned not to be in pk mode cuz if on of the ppl in othe zhennibg squad is in pk mode ur in for a fight)
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If you have two cars arrive at an intersection, the one who was there first has the right of way. If both cars try to cross at the same time they crash into eachother.
Sharing a spot isnt hard.
Competing against eachother for limited spawns is inefficient and it is easy enough to work out a time to hand the spot over. If they have 20 mins left on their scrolls why not let them finish and come back in 20 mins? If they are still there then feel free to KS.
There is a significant cost involved in zhenning much more than any other type of aoe grinding. While this is not your fault you are responsible for your own actions and how you behave reflects on you as a character. In general the ones who would steal from my lures without asking were the ones who were rude and vulgar. Most people in the game are nice and reasonable though and we could almost always just settle on a time to hand over the spot.
Also since when do venos use charms? Venos have no real grinding cost I'm aware of.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I had this happen to me on night scream island, but I was not just grinding I was doing a quest. While I was there the zhen party choose to badger for a few then just steal the few mobs I was after. Did so to the point that I ended up dead refusing to rez me, but 1 member that was pulling called on his friend to come rez me. Once my quest was done I left. What I think is we all play this game and there are no set camps so why act like selfish brats.0
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Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »Also since when do venos use charms? Venos have no real grinding cost I'm aware of.
As a personal choice, I always carry a HP charm (never MP, no need) for the following reasons:
a) Just like anyone else, it's a reassurance that just in case something DOES manage to hit me, I have a charm to keep me alive and I don't have to worry about running across the map (exaggerating) until my pet catches aggro.
b) When I want to grind nonstop, the little boost thing (forgot skill name for the HP one - I hardly use it lol unless as secondary emergency heal @_@) has a cooldown that's just too long for my tastes. At least with a charm, I can quickly activate Soul Transfusion and keep going without stopping.
c) Why not? It usually lasts me several levels and I can easily grind back the coins to get another one and some more if I wanted.0 -
As a personal choice, I always carry a HP charm (never MP, no need) for the following reasons:
a) Just like anyone else, it's a reassurance that just in case something DOES manage to hit me, I have a charm to keep me alive and I don't have to worry about running across the map (exaggerating) until my pet catches aggro.
b) When I want to grind nonstop, the little boost thing (forgot skill name for the HP one - I hardly use it lol unless as secondary emergency heal @_@) has a cooldown that's just too long for my tastes. At least with a charm, I can quickly activate Soul Transfusion and keep going without stopping.
c) Why not? It usually lasts me several levels and I can easily grind back the coins to get another one and some more if I wanted.
Still it doesnt sound like you actively use it when grinding. On undines I had to factor in a cost of 50k HP charm per hour and with zhen its 450k MP charm per hour. A veno's grinding cost is pretty negligible, most venos I know don't even bother to carry pots.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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play one at my level!Also since when do venos use charms? Venos have no real grinding cost I'm aware of.
the 'use metabolic boost and hide behinds a meatwall' is such a stupid stereo type. monsters do spawn all around us, not just the general area where our meat wall is, hence why we have to be able to take some hits(like the arenied sharpfangs, gosh darn poison). theyre also needed for soloing AOE TT bosses like feng.
ive always noticed the vulgar ones tend to be the AOE levelers due to a sense of owner ship they feel belongs to them for leveling in an area, im constantly refered to as a b*tch for leveling in the general area of spiders by the larger land owning faction whether its fish, spiders, old HT, its ridiculous. the only way i find solving the issue is kicking their monsters butts, and chopping their exp to pass the message "hey youre rude."0 -
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