Seeking Wizardly Advice

Mariven - Harshlands · June 2009

Hello, hello.

I have a Lv. 17 Wizard in the works, and I was pondering a few things, the first of which is my build. I'm in a light armor build currently, but I've been tempted to go pure. What I want to know is if that's wise when I primarily play solo. If you're pure, are you like, constantly dying to the point of it being a pain in the rear? And I know that depends on the player, so I'll say I have a pretty fair understanding of the game mechanics. I'm not an expert yet, but I think I'm past the noob stage.

Next I was wondering about kiting. I think I'm doing it right, but I'm not sure. *laughs* I keep my camera panned out, choose a target, cast, run a ways off, cast again, and I utilize my slowing spells like Gush and Hailstorm. I'm also good about not aggroing nearby mobs. But even though I'm in a light armor build, enemies in my level range still beat me down pretty good. I've seen it mentioned that others with the LA build don't even bother kiting. Is there some way to kite without ever taking a hit or are these people just considerably higher in levels?

My last question is about the Reset Point service offered by the Elders. If I decide to go pure, I'll want to be able to do this, but I can't find the note you need to give him. I know it's supposed to be in the Boutique or the Auction House if you're lucky, but I cannot find it listed for the life of me. Could someone let me know exactly where it's listed at, pretty please?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Mizorie - Lost City · June 2009

Ok LA is manly for PvP but it does have its uses in Pve, but you will get to the point where you can tank a bit, but theres no point. But as a wiz just run away, we have the lowest hp in the game. Pure is more useful for pve, lots of magic mobs at higher lvls, can tank a fb and a few bosses.And pure will over all have more dmg then a light armor mage. There fixed

For your second question, you will later on get 3 skills used for kiting. At lvl 29 you will get a skill call Distance Shrink, basically shoots you in the direction your facing. Next is Will of the Phoenix, which is a knock-back skill. And last is Force of Will, which silences the enemy so he cant attack but still moves, all enemy's that get effected by it run away from you. So yes at later lvls it is possible to kite with out taking a hit. Oh and even light armor mages kite.

Yes only way to get them is from the Boutique. It is under the "Items" tab then its under the "Reset" tab. You can get them from other people also.

<--Light armor since lvl 1 baby

_makina_ - Sanctuary · June 2009

Mizorie - Lost City wrote: »

Ok LA is manly for PvP but it does have its uses in Pve, but you will get to the point where you can tank a bit, but theres no point. But as a wiz just run away, we have the lowest hp in the game. Pure is more useful for pve, lots of magic mobs at higher lvls, can tank a fb and a few bosses.And pure will over all have more dmg then a pure.

For your second question, you will later on get 3 skills used for kiting. At lvl 29 you will get a skill call Distance Shrink, basically shoots you in the direction your facing. Next is Will of the Phoenix, which is a knock-back skill. And last is Force of Will, which silences the enemy so he cant attack but still moves, all enemy's that get effected by it run away from you. So yes at later lvls it is possible to kite with out taking a hit. Oh and even light armor mages kite.

Yes only way to get them is from the Boutique. It is under the "Items" tab then its under the "Reset" tab. You can get them from other people also.

<--Light armor since lvl 1 baby

You must be tired. Your last sentence in your first paragraph you said, "And pure will over all have more dmg then a pure." O.o

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · June 2009

ya a pure wizard is stronger than a pure wizard you didnt knew that >.>

Cyrinity - Harshlands · June 2009

Mariven - Harshlands wrote: »

Hello, hello.

I have a Lv. 17 Wizard in the works, and I was pondering a few things, the first of which is my build. I'm in a light armor build currently, but I've been tempted to go pure. What I want to know is if that's wise when I primarily play solo. If you're pure, are you like, constantly dying to the point of it being a pain in the rear? And I know that depends on the player, so I'll say I have a pretty fair understanding of the game mechanics. I'm not an expert yet, but I think I'm past the noob stage.

Stick LA, you're on a PvP server and will need the extra survivability. I'm pure build and it sucks! Everyone kills me with ease and theirs not much I can do in return.
I rarely get killed in PvE only on the odd occasion when I'm not paying enough attention. I don't think build makes too much difference here.

Mariven - Harshlands wrote: »

Next I was wondering about kiting. I think I'm doing it right, but I'm not sure. *laughs* I keep my camera panned out, choose a target, cast, run a ways off, cast again, and I utilize my slowing spells like Gush and Hailstorm. I'm also good about not aggroing nearby mobs. But even though I'm in a light armor build, enemies in my level range still beat me down pretty good. I've seen it mentioned that others with the LA build don't even bother kiting. Is there some way to kite without ever taking a hit or are these people just considerably higher in levels?

I'm pure and never Kite its not required and takes an age to do. Always keep a bag of health potions and start using one as soon as youve cast onto a target. This will keep you alive and prevent the annoying running about kiting.
DONT get MP potions save and buy a charm instead their much more efficient and work out cheaper when you get onto the level 60 potions.

Once you get into the 60's you'll find almost all the things you come up against are magic anyway so their ranged making hit and running pointless. Level your resistance shields and stand you groud and down the monster as fast as you can.

Mariven - Harshlands wrote: »

My last question is about the Reset Point service offered by the Elders. If I decide to go pure, I'll want to be able to do this, but I can't find the note you need to give him. I know it's supposed to be in the Boutique or the Auction House if you're lucky, but I cannot find it listed for the life of me. Could someone let me know exactly where it's listed at, pretty please?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Its expensive to say the least, you're not just paying to reset your stats but youll need all new gear to take advantage of your new stats. For a PvP server you're already taking the right route to get where you'll want to be in the 60s (not die in 1 hit from your peers) and onwards.
As for reset notes, I've never seen any on sale and spent two weeks trying to sell one myself. Theirs not enough demand for them so they dont appear very often. Instead should you want to "give it a try" with a pure build to compare your abilities vs light build then save up and buy cash from the gold auction and use that in the boutique.

Lareish - Harshlands · June 2009

It's good to see more Harshlands Wizards! We are a rare breed here XD

Like the others, I recommend you stick with Light Armor. At the early levels (pre 40-60), you'll do slightly less damage than a "pure" Arcane robed mage. It's only at the high levels that the difference widens enough to jump to Pure for the higher damage. I think the general consensus is to switch somewhere after 70, depending on what you can or cannot get ahold of armor wise.

I've been LA since the beginning, so I don't know just how squishy Robe would be in comparison. But when I hit 3x and got dropped into the PvP headfirst, I was very glad for my extra physical defense. So far I've survived about half of the attempts on my life, and the times I died took long enough that if my screen hadn't locked, it's feasible I could have gotten away. Maybe. Could be wishful thinking on my part. The point is, people over twice my level were either spending multiple attacks to kill me, or couldn't kill me before I got away. What the result would have been without my Pdefense being where it is would have been a much quicker death, at the very least.

When playing the PvE quest grind, I can do very well solo. I rarely kite, though I do it the same way as you and it works fine. They sometimes hit me while kiting, but not for too big of a deal. My click-to and recast spots are about 20 meters away from my last-cast spot, which gives me enough distance to get past their range while they stay in mine. Not sure how far you're going. I click a spot while my spell is channeling so that I'm on the go exactly when it casts. This gives the mob an early distance disadvantage and, while I'm moving, it's about 30-40 meters away from me. It comes within my range just after I stop at the next spot, but it doesn't get me in its range until I'm done casting. Then I'm off again

I recommend you raise your Apothecary skills. Gather herbs whenever you see them, and make Life Powder. When I go against harder mobs, or have the risk of getting multiples on me, I pop one of those ahead of time. It also makes a good HP buff for PvP because of the quick recovery speed. In effect, it gives you a bigger HP bar to contend with. That's a huge plus for us wizards XD At level 30, you can start using Focus Powder as well, to keep your MP up. With the two of them running you can virtually tank a quest without having to rest (or kite), unless the mobs are poison. The Life Powder handles one Poison status easily, but it starts failing if they stack. So if you have it on you, wait a moment before pushing ahead to the next poison mob. I don't have to use HP or MP potions much, I just toss one if it looks like I might be getting into a pinch.

When I first started playing Wizard and found out that we have some AoE (area of effect) attacks, I thought that was The Most Suicidal Thing Ever. Why would I want to ENCOURAGE multiple mobs to come at me all at once to feast upon my serving-sized HP bar? But with my trusty Blademaster husband around for backup, I tried it out when I got it. With LA and Life Powder + Stone shield + BM buff, I didn't even need his help to quickly kill three mobs at once. And my charm didn't even come close to ticking. It was a pleasant surprise. His WTF reaction to the whole thing was wonderfully priceless

Json - Heavens Tear · June 2009

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

ya a pure wizard is stronger than a pure wizard you didnt knew that >.>

WTH does that mean it makes no sense
BTw Pure wizs are good at pvp is aswell if there are in groups,Undine Sutra owns if u are pure build and u know it

Piliener - Lost City · June 2009

My first advice would be only listen to the posters who are on pvp servers. Second I can only offer what I did. I went LA until about lvl 58 then respeced to pure. I get 1shotted a lot atm yes, but I can learn the RA ways before its do or die time. Mobs you'll be fine either way I switched when the mobs became elemental myself seems to have worked wonderfully

Mizorie - Lost City · June 2009

Q_Q you guys are so mean to me.

Shevanel - Sanctuary · June 2009

Read the post and decided Im gonna start making my own potions and stuff, and spending my other money on a charm that I hopefully won't have to use.

Thanks d :

Pure/Hybrid (I still don't know where I'm going) Wiz d :

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · June 2009

Piliener - Lost City wrote: »

My first advice would be only listen to the posters who are on pvp servers. Second I can only offer what I did. I went LA until about lvl 58 then respeced to pure. I get 1shotted a lot atm yes, but I can learn the RA ways before its do or die time. Mobs you'll be fine either way I switched when the mobs became elemental myself seems to have worked wonderfully

just because im not on a pvp server, doesnt mean i cant pvp. This shows your ignorance, let me fix this

Piliener - Lost City wrote: »

My first advice would be to not listen to ignorant pvp server wizards. Second I can only offer what I did. I went LA until about lvl 58 then respeced to pure. I get 1shotted a lot atm yes, but I can learn the RA ways before its do or die time. Mobs you'll be fine either way I switched when the mobs became elemental myself seems to have worked wonderfully

fixed b:pleased

Mariven - Harshlands · June 2009

Oh, lord. I started a fight. *lol* Sorry.

Bickering aside, though, thanks very much everyone. I'm thinking I'm just going to start fresh as a pure mage in a PvE server. PvP just isn't really my thing, for now at least. I know I'm a wuss. =P

Piliener - Lost City · June 2009

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

just because im not on a pvp server, doesnt mean i cant pvp. This shows your ignorance, let me fix this

fixed b:pleased

ty. Now I'm not saying you CAN'T pvp just not as adept as on a pvp server. It's on thing to pvp when you want it's quite another to not be able to turn it off.

Mariven - Harshlands wrote: »

Oh, lord. I started a fight. *lol* Sorry.

Bickering aside, though, thanks very much everyone. I'm thinking I'm just going to start fresh as a pure mage in a PvE server. PvP just isn't really my thing, for now at least. I know I'm a wuss. =P

No, you're not a wuss. pvp isn't for everyone and at least you admit it and gave it a shot. At least you admit it unlike a large number of people on pve servers. (no that's not a shot at you Miz quit bein so paranoid) b:chuckle

Forp - Heavens Tear · June 2009

i like this guy. he thinks 6x pk matters. next thing you know it's going to be how much he destroys 8x barbs solo b:shutup

Cyrinity - Harshlands · June 2009

Mariven - Harshlands wrote: »

Oh, lord. I started a fight. *lol* Sorry.

Bickering aside, though, thanks very much everyone. I'm thinking I'm just going to start fresh as a pure mage in a PvE server. PvP just isn't really my thing, for now at least. I know I'm a wuss. =P

Only advice I can give in responce to that is where do you see yourself in 3-6 months time? Do you want to be partaking in huge faction battles out in the open world without the need for a teritory war?

You're out doing a quest and a group of red names fly towards you, you jump on your mount and take a quick account of the situation. Fight or flee? Its exciting, scary and you really don't know what the outcome might be. So you start to flee and one of the red names chases after you, but wait their only weilding TT60 equipments and theyve lost the support of their group. You stop turn round and cast sand storm in their face, their charm ticks but their far too proud to take the warning and stop. Instead they keep coming! You cast force of will and use distance shrink, turn round Sutra and hit your "I Win" button which will have all your most damaging skills nicely lined up to attack with no channeling times. b:bye
Its amazing and it gives you such a rush when you finally get the hang of being able to do it. Ok theirs loads of people who can fly over you and 1 hit you or send their Nix after you (please note here as a pure Arcane wizzy a Nix of the same level has 3x my physical defence, 3x my magic defence, 2x my HP, 65x my evasion, 90x my accuracy and 0.5x more damage output than I have and this is before taking into account its spells, they hurt, they hurt a lot and this is just the pet it also has a Veno attached to it) and you probably will die, its a little fustrating however as long as you're not red named yourself and they get the last hit not a monster you dont lose any exp b:pleased

Someone comes on a dungeon run with you and steals the drops, no worries you can always kill them and hope they drop it (and oh will they drop if their red, its like Christmas when you split the red named wrapping paper aside and theyve ran out of dolls)

I chose PvP for one reason, it doesn't stop people being jerks towards you, no. But it will always offer you the opportunity to fight back for yourself (even if you lose) instead of just letting them get away with it like you have to on a PvE server.

Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i like this guy. he thinks 6x pk matters. next thing you know it's going to be how much he destroys 8x barbs solo b:shutup

I think thats subjective to the person playing. If you on average spent 6 hours a week playing then yes 6x PK does matter, it will matter a whole lot to you as you wont be seeing the 70s and deffo not the 80s unless you jump in your DeLorean!

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · June 2009

Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »

i like this guy. he thinks 6x pk matters. next thing you know it's going to be how much he destroys 8x barbs solo b:shutup

the thing is, i dont PK 6x. Its rare to find people under 7x in PK mode. I can just take on quite a few 7x players.

and yes i can destroy 8x barbs with my amp BM slave, my cleric slave and my 2 veno chi slaves b:chuckle (that was a joke btw 8x barb are you joking, only time i did that was to prove my combo **** accuracy)

Forp - Heavens Tear · June 2009

i wasn't talking to you mizuoni.

Ursa - Dreamweaver · June 2009

Mariven - Harshlands wrote: »

Oh, lord. I started a fight. *lol* Sorry.

Bickering aside, though, thanks very much everyone. I'm thinking I'm just going to start fresh as a pure mage in a PvE server. PvP just isn't really my thing, for now at least. I know I'm a wuss. =P

I'm on PvE server cause I'm playing this game for fun a couple of hours a day. I want to be able to do my quests in peace, do mats/herb grind and help lowbies without growing a pair of eyes on the back of my head. That limited time I have to play this game I want to play it my way an not the way some idiots think I should play it.
So no, I don't think you're a wuss. You probably have a life outside this game, so PvE makes sense if u want to enjoy it.

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver · June 2009

i played on pve server because Dreamweaver sounds really cool.

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