A place in this world for a fighter cleric? ;o

nevermore592
nevermore592 Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2009 in Cleric
Yeah....I've been at this game a while.
Originally I had a Venomancer, though I grew bored with that and moved on to cleric.
However, I find it extremely difficult to just sit around and heal people, and I can't stand the thought of being an archer.

So I've been going about acting as an ordinary fighter, though the ability to heal makes things way easier! I only bother leveling healing skills and wing mastery, since I don't use the others.

My mana is pretty decent despite my never adding any points to it. I'm pretty self-sufficient, but will this strategy hurt me later on?

I currently use light armor earlier on in the levels and switch to heavy when my stats are high enough.
I'm also a gauntlet/fist user.

I'm lvl 24.
My STA is 30.
STR is 54 and DEX is 47.

Any tips for a fighter cleric? b:surrender
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  • XCelesti - Heavens Tear
    XCelesti - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I was thinking perhaps get my STA to 45, leave it and get enough Dex to qualify for my weapons and focus everything else into strength....
  • XCelesti - Heavens Tear
    XCelesti - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Or should I abandon the dex all together and go with just STA and STR?
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    From the looks of it it is as though you are going more for an LA build.

    3 mag, 1 str and 1 dex every level.

    This in my opinion is not a viable build.

    If you want to stick to a more mag build, leave your str where it is as you will not need any higher for the rest of your Cleric life. Str does not really does anything for this class.

    All of a Clerics power is in Mag, so the less mag you have the less powerful your attacks and your heals will be b:surrender

    I would like to point out though that Clerics are very powerful the higher level you get. The lower levels are definitely tough, but SO worth it as you grow and realize that you are and can be more then just a healer!!
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    His build isnt LA he is just pumping str and dex on random, i guess he is trying to make a BM out of a cleric.

    Hate to burst your bubble, but that isnt a good thing to do, tho it seams ok at your level, the more higher you get the more impossible it will get and then at some point you will just quit :\
    b:dirty
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    His build isnt LA he is just pumping str and dex on random, i guess he is trying to make a BM out of a cleric.

    Hate to burst your bubble, but that isnt a good thing to do, tho it seams ok at your level, the more higher you get the more impossible it will get and then at some point you will just quit :\

    I did say it looks as though he is going more for an LA build. I did not say it was an LA build.

    But yes, if he keeps pumping into str and even dex, it will be disaster. All cleric weapons are mag....

    To the OP: what is your mag at level 24? And can you use your most current weapon?
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  • Sylvana_gw - Sanctuary
    Sylvana_gw - Sanctuary Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Just go roll a bm and lvl your apoc skill. What you are doing is just not viable.

    RedsRose, he/she is using fists instead of mag weapons. Oh, and he mentioned he hasn't added any points to mag, which is just :(
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Just go roll a bm and lvl your apoc skill. What you are doing is just not viable.

    RedsRose, he/she is using fists instead of mag weapons. Oh, and he mentioned he hasn't added any points to mag, which is just :(

    b:shocked I soooooooooooooooooo missed that.

    OMG --> REROLL!!!!!!!

    You can't even heal properly without mp...and FISTS?

    Seriously I'm sorry, but what above posted said -- Role a BM. That is essentially what you have here, without the wings.

    You fail to see how strong clerics can really be. Yes we are meant to be a support class, but I can assure you that we can out DD many of the classes b:surrender
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  • Xiaran - Dreamweaver
    Xiaran - Dreamweaver Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Agree on reroll!!!!!

    If you want to be up close and personal with mobs then you need to make a blademaster. you'll be able to hit efficiently and have skills that match the build you're going for.
    You seem to be wanting the "paladin" type class, can do melee damage well, holds up against phys damage and can slap a few heals on yourself. Just make a blademaster and pick up apothecary. In lvl 1 apothecary skill you can make:

    Chaos Powder- 2k hp healed over a short amount of time.
    Life Powder- Increases HP regen by certain amount for 10 min

    At lvl 2 skill you can start making 4k hp heals and +50 to chi items

    Highly recommend this. No offense, but your cleric build is garbage and in a few lvls, it will be completely useless if it isn't already.


    My cleric is mostly magic build. Only enough str to wear my robes, no dex, and enough vit to not be one shotted by any adds. As a cleric, my magic spells outdamage most classes my level. Almost all mobs are dead before they get to me, and the heals I give can darn near fill the hp bar of a BM my lvl. Guaranteed not worthless, Heals great, buffs great, debuffs great, and solos great. Just gonna need some more vit if I wish to PVP with it.
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  • XCelesti - Heavens Tear
    XCelesti - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Well..first off I'm a girl. ;]

    Secondly, even though I have no points in magic, I have a decent amount of MP and I usually only heal myself.
    I ONLY have healing spells, so I don't really need MP for anything else.
    I have switched to dual swords for easier stats.
    And now I'm focusing on STR and VIT.
    So basically...I am a BM WITH Wings.
    Which is probably the only reason I made this character. xD

    See, I could never be a full on cleric because I'm shy and keep to myself most of the time. If I wasn't self sufficient, I would never make it. But I like being able to occasionally revive someone when they really need it.
  • XCelesti - Heavens Tear
    XCelesti - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I've been thinking to make a regular cleric, once I managed to get a few people that will help support me.
    But I don't regret what I've done with Celesti.
  • XCelesti - Heavens Tear
    XCelesti - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I'm keeping xCelesti...but in case she fails like you say she will, I'll make a regular cleric.

    So I focus purely on magic?
    And some VIT?
  • Sylvana_gw - Sanctuary
    Sylvana_gw - Sanctuary Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    It's a game after all, so feel free to play whichever way you like. Having said that, you did post on a forum asking about your current build, and the asnwer is that in the long run, it just is not viable. It's just the way the class was designed, and as you level up, you'll see the game becoming more and more frustrating given your current path.

    And just because cleric is a support char does not mean it cannot solo. In fact I've soloed through the entire game so far, excepting FBs and the notorious bosses (Krixx, Jewel, etc. . ., currently lvl 58), and I am sure most other clerics have too (except for the fail ones that voluntarily gimp their attack potential by going FSC).

    When you roll a real cleric, whether LA, pure mag or hybrid, you will see that a nice balance of attack and defense make us a very versatile class that can complete pretty much every non-boss quest by itself.

    PS-sorry, I too get annoyed when people assume everyone online is a guy.

    Edit: If you do reroll another cleric, you pretty much have three choices:
    Pure Mag: 9 in mag, 1 in Str every two lvls
    -highest damage/greater heals/high magic defense. . .low health, low physical defense
    Light Armor: 6 in mag, 2 in Str, 2 in Dex every 2 levels
    -highest physical defense of any cleric/high critical hit percentage. . .low health (though higher than pure depending on armor addons), lower magic defense. Also has ability to use robes for better mag defense(it will be ridiculously expensive to upkeep two sets though)
    Hybrid: 6 in mag, 1 in Str, 3 free every two levels (you can add all 3 in vit or split them between vit and mag).
    -wear robes, so high mag defense. Higher survivability than pure, slightly lower damage/healing.

    As to which one is better. . .stating an opinion on that would probably make this an epic thread
  • XCelesti - Heavens Tear
    XCelesti - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    ;] Thanks for being nice about it.
    I know she meant no harm, but I don't like the term 'garbage' being used for my character.
    I plan on keeping her, but I made another as back-up just in case so I won't have to start all over again if things go as they say.

    Mind telling me a little about these builds?
    I'd like it to be where I'm not in great threat of dying if I get spawned on, but be able to stick to the 'cleric' build.
  • Sylvana_gw - Sanctuary
    Sylvana_gw - Sanctuary Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    ;] Thanks for being nice about it.
    I know she meant no harm, but I don't like the term 'garbage' being used for my character.
    I plan on keeping her, but I made another as back-up just in case so I won't have to start all over again if things go as they say.

    Mind telling me a little about these builds?
    I'd like it to be where I'm not in great threat of dying if I get spawned on, but be able to stick to the 'cleric' build.

    Edited my previous reply to give a short answer to your question xd
  • XCelesti - Heavens Tear
    XCelesti - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Could I do the light armor one with 2 VIT instead of DEX?
  • Sylvana_gw - Sanctuary
    Sylvana_gw - Sanctuary Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Could I do the light armor one with 2 VIT instead of DEX?

    No, you need dex to wear light armor.
  • XCelesti - Heavens Tear
    XCelesti - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Huh, really? oo'
    I've been wearing light armor for a while..never really thought about it. xD
    Well I guess I'll go with the first one, since I recently got a friend who is a BM so he can help me out. ;]
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Huh, really? oo'
    I've been wearing light armor for a while..never really thought about it. xD
    Well I guess I'll go with the first one, since I recently got a friend who is a BM so he can help me out. ;]

    With no mag, on your first cleric and with no weapons for your class, i am sorry but you will die in 1 shot further on in game without the ability to heal your self, cause healing comes of your base mag.att

    About builds, as mentioned above, chose one.
    Tho keep in mind that pure mag (9mag 1str every 2lvs) wont be a good thing after lv60+. You need vit, we are squishy enuff dont make your self more squishier ;p.

    When you chose your build, comes skills...few main ones that must be up to date to make your life easier are Iron Heart Blessing, Plume Shot, Great Cyclone, and your buffs
    b:dirty
  • XCelesti - Heavens Tear
    XCelesti - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    So...the hybrid would be the better way to go?

    Well I'm still keeping xCelesti, she's decent for the time being, which is fine by me. I'm making another cleric, so let's stop tearing into her. >>
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Yeah hybrid are more then fine, actually its rare finding pure vit or pure mag builds later on in game any way ;p
    b:dirty
  • Forp - Heavens Tear
    Forp - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,445 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    pure vit is actually all i see after 90+, except for an unmentioned someone that owns a rather large guild in our server. he claims he's "full attack", and "pure int". and he died in 2 shots.. to a mage.
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    pure vit is actually all i see after 90+, except for an unmentioned someone that owns a rather large guild in our server. he claims he's "full attack", and "pure int". and he died in 2 shots.. to a mage.

    I wonder who would be pure int in 90+ >.>
    b:dirty
  • kingsheamer
    kingsheamer Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    b:byewhy wont people marry my cleric??????? please respond fellow clerics
  • Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I will always be pure INT, because?

    I got the balls to be one b:pleased
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  • ChilledPanda - Dreamweaver
    ChilledPanda - Dreamweaver Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Well..first off I'm a girl. ;]

    Secondly, even though I have no points in magic, I have a decent amount of MP and I usually only heal myself.
    I ONLY have healing spells, so I don't really need MP for anything else.
    I have switched to dual swords for easier stats.
    And now I'm focusing on STR and VIT.
    So basically...I am a BM WITH Wings.
    Which is probably the only reason I made this character. xD

    See, I could never be a full on cleric because I'm shy and keep to myself most of the time. If I wasn't self sufficient, I would never make it. But I like being able to occasionally revive someone when they really need it.

    Look "Hun" no matter how "Self-Sufficient" you are, you need to try and stick with a characters normal "Path" if you want to use swords and have "Wings" then make a blademaster, lvl up to 30 and get a flying sword (Its free btw) otherwise your wasting your time. I keep to myself on my barbarian too, but i follow strict build guidelines for my tank build and it keeps me on the right path for what im intending to do. I suggest you be a barbarian if you want to keep to urself, or BM for more dmg. I suggest, know, i demand that you re-roll (Restart) this character... Its just like.... What are you doing????? b:shocked another thing, go to some guides and look at the stuff, the more magic you have the better you are. Cleric w/o points in magic is like a dex barb with claws... its just simply pointless and unless you aint planning on playing this game much or u just play every few weeks, i highly recommend you remake... For stuff like you want to do, you could be an archer. Some archers will attack with bows and then pull out claws if enemy gets close, this is something that i think you would like, and for archers i suggest you go 4 dex, 1 str each level or go to the archer guides and pick. But you HAVE to follow the guidelines, they are here for a purpose
  • Rillien - Heavens Tear
    Rillien - Heavens Tear Posts: 569 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    While it's great to try out different builds I promise it will get pretty hard once you hit 40-50+ just because the game scales in difficulty. If you go to the starter towns you see all sorts of different builds running around, but as you move out of those everyone becomes much more "conventional" in their builds, because they are the ones tried and true. Keep trying on your fighter cleric, and I hope you're able to get past that difficult period. If not, check out the guides.

    But one thing I noticed was that you seem to think that clerics need constant support and can't solo that well. I really think that if a "normal" cleric is played right, you will be just as capable as a bm or even better. Clerics are one of the best solo classes. Who else has access to a ton of instant heals? They're not as weak as everyone thinks.
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Well..first off I'm a girl. ;]

    Secondly, even though I have no points in magic, I have a decent amount of MP and I usually only heal myself.
    I ONLY have healing spells, so I don't really need MP for anything else.
    I have switched to dual swords for easier stats.
    And now I'm focusing on STR and VIT.
    So basically...I am a BM WITH Wings.
    Which is probably the only reason I made this character. xD

    See, I could never be a full on cleric because I'm shy and keep to myself most of the time. If I wasn't self sufficient, I would never make it. But I like being able to occasionally revive someone when they really need it.

    crawl into a small hole and die.. quietly we wont miss u...
    Clerics are like cops...they always seem to be around.....until you actually need one b:surrender - DeadRaven
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    crawl into a small hole and die.. quietly we wont miss u...

    Cruel :\ ....
    b:dirty
  • shuzan
    shuzan Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    In summary:

    HA fist cleric = ****ing stupid.

    Reroll a BM
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Cruel :\ ....

    world is cruel XD
    Clerics are like cops...they always seem to be around.....until you actually need one b:surrender - DeadRaven
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