Barbs N PKing

archers arent hard at all, just get in close and stay close, they are squishy, should go down in 2-3 hits.

BiggiSmall - Harshlands wrote: »

Yea i hate Arhcers, I hae dueled one and they flew the whole time and i dint have my drake stirke yet so..I GOT PWNED.

As soon as someone runs for any extended period of time in a duel, they are basically admitting "I LOSE/CAN'T WIN". I'm not talking about evading spark erupts vs. melee or whatnot, but seriously... there's a reason Secret Passage is always pvp paradise, no flying shenanigans :P

Barbs have the clear advantage vs. Archers in a proper duel, so they make up for it with dirty moves like the flying kite. What would people say if a barb used sunder and then went for a jog around archosaur? They'd call him a total failure, and they'd be right. It's the same thing, lol.

Archers CAN beat Barbs in a fair, proper duel if they are strong and smart. Any class can beat any class given strength (gear/skills) and intelligence (class specific techniques). Simple as that.
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EDIT: Sorry, got wrapped up in responding to last post and forgot OP, lol. My personal strategies as follows...

General Notes:
-I have a love affair with Bloodbath. I use it constantly in pvp vs. all classes, I hate whiffing when I swing. Some people disagree with me using it for ALL classes, so suit yourself and test it out.
-In my experience, using items of any kind during duels is highly frowned upon. So the following is written assuming no hp+mp pots or apoth items (anti-stun pots etc).
-Always fight on the ground. People that fly around like tards in duel are cowards/failures, lol.
-Use Bestial Rage, constantly. There will come a time in every barbs career when he realizes how universally insane this skill is, so this probably goes without saying.

Melee Classes

-Barbs: Begin in Tiger form, build chi if necessary with Bestial Rage+Alacrity+Frigthen. Use Flesh Ream and the occassional Devour to keep them hurting. When your HP falls below 80% or so in Tiger, use SUNDER, then pop into Humanoid and use Mighty Swing constantly to keep them stunned, Penetrate Armor to keep them debuffed, and Beastial Onslaught for the epic dmg and moderate debuff it provides. I don't spam skills because you will tend to run out of MP doing this vs. other melee classes, just focus on what's most useful + strong.

-Blademasters: Can be tough, but not impossible. ALWAYS have Bloodbath active for these duels, its impossible without unless you're rocking Misty's or something uber like that. Other than that, apply all the same tactics/strategies described for vs. other Barbs, but try to be aware of timing when fighting a Blademaster. Try to be in Tiger form when they inevitably use Heaven's Flame (red swirling dragon AOE) to reduce the massive dmg you're about to take. Good BM's will wait until you're low on health and stunned before unleashing HF on you, but you can always pray, heh. Prepare to be stunned for the majority of the fight if the BM is good. While in Tiger, spam flesh ream because as of recently it never misses and the damage over time helps combat the constant stuns. Sunder is, again, key for making the long haul and beating through the stuns. Good luck, practice and pay attention to their skill animations.

Magic Classes
(Robed or LA, doesn't matter. Same strategies, robes are much easier to kill, obv.)

1. Begin in Tiger, use Alacrity to seal and Devour to reduce defense.
2. Immediately switch to Humanoid.
3. Mighty Swing > Penetrate Armor > Bestial Onslaught (usually gg, but if not...), Armageddon. If you happen to miss on the Armageddon, repeat step 3.
4. GG!

Specific Robed Class Notes...

-Clerics: They'll sleep you to open every duel. Tank the dmg, run up in tiger and get to work.
-Mages: Watch for their teleport skill. You obviously want to be in tiger when it happens so you can close the gap quickly. Then, go to work.
-Venos: Always ignore pets (unless they have a nix, in which case just forget about trying to win, unless you know they're a complete n00b) and watch + and recognize Bramble Hood. They usually use it right away, so try to fake them out and RUN AWAY when it happens. When you see it wear off (15 second duration), guess what... run up and go to work!


Archers

More or less the same strategies as robes, but against a good archer you will be switching between tiger and humanoid constantly as they will kite you around a lot. Again, Bloodbath is of paramount importance due to their pure dex granting high evasion. Stun arrow is their best skill against you, get used to the duration so you will be ready to pop back into tiger and close the gap again. Other than a veno with a nix, I think archers are the hardest class for us to kill (at least if they know what they're doing and have a nice weapon).

Phew, well, hope that helps. Experience is always the best teacher though, get out there and start challenging people!

lycanthar that's not true

archers have penalty range so they have to kite sometimes

running doesn't mean we are screaming "WE GIVE UP"

Hazardus has his siggy "When the going gets tough; get a tank!"
I've come to realize how true it is...xD


No, but Archers are lots of fun, imo XD. For me, they usually try and stay a good distance away (obviously) by running and running, but once they realize that it doesn't work, they just give up and fight you at melee range XD

Prediction - Lost City wrote: »

lycanthar that's not true

archers have penalty range so they have to kite sometimes

running doesn't mean we are screaming "WE GIVE UP"

I think lycan was referring to flying around running... not the running around kiting archers must do..(archers who stands in one spot is "shocking")

i agree with lycan n hazard on other parts.. thats how i normally would do

thanks for the bit on BM's Ly that helped alot, prepare to be stunned! haha xox and I won't be giving up if I start to run, jump and flip, just need to make you work a bit if your going to own like that everytime ;p