Vit or Dex [Axe Blademaster]

HatheR - Sanctuary
HatheR - Sanctuary Posts: 59 Arc User
edited June 2009 in Blademaster
Well, i read almost all the topics about builds and guides, but I dont know what to do...

Now I am lvl 35, and I have Str and Dex just to use my equipment, and all the rest in Vit. I am using some 3 star itens (rank1 and others) and a Handaxes of Demoniac roar (lvl 30 molded axes), I think that I can use this axes till I reach 50 or 52.

So now, I know that at high level, a Axe Blademaster have some problems with accurary, and that I will need a lot of Hp to be a good man at PVP and TW. I am thinking to put Str and Dex just to wear my itens, and all the rest in Vit. So later I can buy the rings that give me accurary. So, the question, this itens will solve my problem with accuracy? Should I add more Dex? Or I can get dex/crit and accuracy with itens? At high level, with a full vit build, I will be a good char for PVP and TW?

EDIT
My Stats.
Without gear:
Str: 112
Dex: 26
Vit: 47

With Gear:
Str: 125
Dex: 26
Vit: 49
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  • Axemanek - Heavens Tear
    Axemanek - Heavens Tear Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    well i think you should add more vit...but that is just my opinion
    at my level i have 83 vit and i still want more...=P
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    What worked for me was going hybrid vit build...

    Take your free points and put them into Vit at first... when you find yourself missing too much (which will end up happening), start throwing more of those free stat points into dex.

    Being an axe build means because of your str requirements, you're not going to have a whole lot of extra points like you would if you were sword, fist or pole, so you'll benefit more from Vit.

    When you hit 80ish you can restat your vit to somewhere around 50-75 and put the rest of your points into dex, but I wouldn't do that any point before 80. You just don't have enough free points to make much of a difference with your dex, and I would highly suggest that you throw the often used term "cap" out the window.

    Also go for +accuracy gear when you can... missing on a spark skill really sucks.


    Taken from Lyndura's guide:

    Required stats every two levels: 6 STR | 1 DEX
    Free stat points left: 3

    Suggested stat to add the left points (PvE): VIT
    Suggested stat to add the left points (PvP): VIT and DEX
    Suggested stat to add the left points (TW): VIT and DEX
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  • Maddrox - Harshlands
    Maddrox - Harshlands Posts: 1,140 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Vit so I could kill you faster b:chuckle
  • Aragorn - Harshlands
    Aragorn - Harshlands Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I went vit until mid 70s and then started throwing everything into dex and a bit into str. Right now (with gear) my stats are....

    STR - 249
    VIT - 82
    DEX - 101

    And for some stupid reason I accidentally put 2 into magic at some early level probably when I was dead tired or something.
  • AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear
    AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,413 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I capped my vitality at 36 and took dex at your level. And i've not had a problem at all. So if i was you i would take dex. So you missed less. You can add more vitality later if you feel you're getting squishy.
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  • Kurovanova - Harshlands
    Kurovanova - Harshlands Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Just go 1vit 3str 1dex every lvls. Gives you the best of both.
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  • Granrey - Sanctuary
    Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    One of the reasons for me to have vit on 3, its because vit is not a requirement to use any gear that I'm aware of.

    Adding STR and Dex allows to have more flexibility in the kind of gears I can use. I can use High dex gear as well as high str ones.
  • Yodenreal - Heavens Tear
    Yodenreal - Heavens Tear Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    i recommend for bm to go dex, cuz bm receive 10 evasion/10 accracy per 1 dex point thats the highest of all classes, my basic vitality is 20 but with hp bonus from gear im at 5.6k hp now.
  • Bashusilly - Heavens Tear
    Bashusilly - Heavens Tear Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    I think some vit is a good thing. But if your Vit is at 47 right now. That is really a good base. Your dex could use some attention though. My axe build is a 6str/3dex/1vit every two levels. At that build, I would never stop adding to vit, but would only be somewhere in the 50's by endgame. It is all going to be in the way you play, but with your dex at 26 right now.....yuck. I would surely work to get that munber higher. At 26 I am almost double that, And I still cant stand watching the misses.

    Being on a PvE server, The high Vit build is a little less common. Your not going to usually have to worry about a Wizzy or archer one or two shooting you like you do on a PvP.

    The Higher Dex will help you grind faster, lots more crits really make a difference.
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  • HatheR - Sanctuary
    HatheR - Sanctuary Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Thanks so much.
    Well, now I am lvl 40. I will put my vit at 65~70 and start to add just str and dex.

    I am doing 6str 1 dex 3 vit every 2 levels, and when I reach 65~70 vit, I will stop to add in vit for now and start to put everithing on dex.

    I love pvp and tw, so I think that will be great for me.

    Again, thanks so much for all.
    Regards.

    EDIT:

    I am still looking for more opinions.
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  • Terrorplex - Heavens Tear
    Terrorplex - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    bms shouldnt use lots of vit cause dex is more important, at the higher lvls like 60-70 u can just get shards on ur eq and look the decent armor with hp boosts. my hp with not gear is in the 2908 and with gear i jump up to 4k. Dex is the best for bms cause it adds crit%, Accuracy,Evade and wat ever.
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  • XAsch - Sanctuary
    XAsch - Sanctuary Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Hmm, I had uh... 12-13k HP with Barb buffs on, as I pumped all VIT, apart from DEX/STR to equip gears. I used dual Misty's, and had roughly.. 2100-2300 accuracy, which was enough to me. [I also used all VIT gear, to pump it up higher b:cute]
  • Axemanek - Heavens Tear
    Axemanek - Heavens Tear Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    XAsch - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Hmm, I had uh... 12-13k HP with Barb buffs on, as I pumped all VIT, apart from DEX/STR to equip gears. I used dual Misty's, and had roughly.. 2100-2300 accuracy, which was enough to me. [I also used all VIT gear, to pump it up higher b:cute]

    that is what i am going to do, never stop adding vit xD
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  • HatheR - Sanctuary
    HatheR - Sanctuary Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    XAsch - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Hmm, I had uh... 12-13k HP with Barb buffs on, as I pumped all VIT, apart from DEX/STR to equip gears. I used dual Misty's, and had roughly.. 2100-2300 accuracy, which was enough to me. [I also used all VIT gear, to pump it up higher b:cute]

    This is what i had on my mind when I made this topic. I really love pvp, but all are talking about dex and dex an dex, finally a high lvl is talking just what I need. A vit BM will be great for pvp. Thanks.
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  • Drakaniel - Heavens Tear
    Drakaniel - Heavens Tear Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Hello b:victory
    So, from what you're all saying, Dex is essential...
    Is it more important than Str ?? What should be the priority : Str or Dex ?
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  • Shutterd - Harshlands
    Shutterd - Harshlands Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Drakaniel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Hello b:victory
    So, from what you're all saying, Dex is essential...
    Is it more important than Str ?? What should be the priority : Str or Dex ?

    Str is definitley more important, its what increases your dmg. Dex increases your evasion (dogding) and crits (which will help you everywhere). Str is a must, dex you need, but not as much.
  • Granrey - Sanctuary
    Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Another thing I forgot to mention is that it depends on your weapon path too.

    Assuming that you are an axes user, while you are doing AOE. The most common is that you will miss some of the mobs but you still hit others. Which is still ok.

    Saying that, missing is an issue for sword and fists skills, as most of their skills are focused on one opponent and its really annoying when they miss.

    For instance, If I want to cancell a mag attack with shadowless kick or I want to slowdown an opponent with vacous palm or I want to knockback with atmots ect. It really sucks when the skill misses. Since you are missing 100%. in the case of AOE with axes you could miss 50% of opponents but you are still doing 50% of what you wanted as you hitting the other opponents..
  • Nevlik - Heavens Tear
    Nevlik - Heavens Tear Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    Shutterd - Harshlands wrote: »
    Str is definitley more important, its what increases your dmg. Dex increases your evasion (dogding) and crits (which will help you everywhere). Str is a must, dex you need, but not as much.

    actually str is not very important, the damage increase isn't that much, dex and vit have more importance.
  • Grenadier_LT - Harshlands
    Grenadier_LT - Harshlands Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    If u are PK, then u need go for vit;

    Common here to have alot of vit and str, less dex, but then u should use mistys to hit better;

    For damage lovers, goes just str and dex, they can't live without dolls or charms, if u crazy enuf, choose this path, be prepared to die more than with vit build:P, sometimes ppl chose it in endgame, if u never tried, u never know, if u like it or not.

    BM's never was mean to be tank, thats barbs job; like clearic healing, BM stuning, archer and wizard - dps classes and veno universal :D
  • Vandalarius - Sanctuary
    Vandalarius - Sanctuary Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    As was stated above me a few times, a big vit build is good for pvp. The more hp you have the longer you'll survive, that's just how it is. Dex builds are great if you're going for a pve build, or are looking to use a wide range of weaponry. There are pros and cons to each build, it depends on what you like to do. Do you want to have big survivability or do big damage? I personally have a build leaning towards heavy vit, and I do just fine. A vit build bm will hurt for accuracy, and crit. But misty forest rings and apoth pots take care of the accuracy issue, and there are plenty of ornaments/gear and the xmas blessing that can tkae care of your crit rating. Or just get a nice pair of axes with berserking on them (Calamitys ftw!) And that will help your crit/burst issue
  • ZzzKyantezzz - Sanctuary
    ZzzKyantezzz - Sanctuary Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    me 1st bm arcane pure mag hihihihihi b:cuteb:victory
  • Filet - Heavens Tear
    Filet - Heavens Tear Posts: 414 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    XAsch - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Hmm, I had uh... 12-13k HP with Barb buffs on, as I pumped all VIT, apart from DEX/STR to equip gears. I used dual Misty's, and had roughly.. 2100-2300 accuracy, which was enough to me. [I also used all VIT gear, to pump it up higher b:cute]

    I'm just wondering how you get 2.1k accuracy if you only put enough dex to wear your equips? Even with two mistys, that's only 2.25x your original accuracy which should be around 500 due to the 50ish dex you need to wear lvl 90 stuff. so that'd give 1,125 accuracy total? I'm probably wrong here but if you sharded with all vit gear how did you manage to get 2.1k accuracy? Cuz if a pure vit bm can get that much accuracy along with 12k hp with barb buff then i'll reset to vit build
  • Axemanek - Heavens Tear
    Axemanek - Heavens Tear Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    you can get equips with accuracy + or dex gear ^^
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  • Filet - Heavens Tear
    Filet - Heavens Tear Posts: 414 Arc User
    edited June 2009
    yeah he said he used all vit gear though, idk if you can really get 12-13k hp and 2.1k acc then i'll just go with that.

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