Venos And Blademasters

I am a level 71 Barb and I have a level 0 veno suppling my barb with no coins.

Well, your veno will be able to supply with the exact same amount of coin as she is now. However, your 5x BM will need more than your 3x, so it won't be relatively as much.

Also, at some point, your BM simply being vastly higher level will mean you can farm more on him than her. I'd just use her when you need the money, and as she gains levels she'll be able to get a lot more much faster.

My BM and Veno make roughly the same amount, but my Veno doesn't use as much pots/charm as my BM. I have a Lvl 70 Bm and 79 Veno to compare.

To put it simply, a veno is a vastly superior PvE'r. I have a BM (main) and a low level veno (money) myself, and if I were to try grinding on my BM, I'd either be using pots or meditating a lot, killing slowly and paying large repair bills. I'd still be making a decent amount, but on my Veno I could speed-kill tons of mobs with no pots and minimal repair bills. The fact I'm fighting lower level mobs makes little difference when I'm dropping masses of dulls and mats and such as well as the usual dq items and equips.

I'm going to be blunt. If you feel that venomancers are vastly superior in PvE, and all you are worried about is lower costs and more coin, then roll a venomancer. If you actually want to have fun, then play what you want to play and stop worrying about what other classes can do that your class cannot do well at a certain level or ever.

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm going to be blunt. If you feel that venomancers are vastly superior in PvE, and all you are worried about is lower costs and more coin, then roll a venomancer. If you actually want to have fun, then play what you want to play and stop worrying about what other classes can do that your class cannot do well at a certain level or ever.

Hey, I have fun at least.b:scorn You better put most venomancers do this because I don't fall in that category (And I'm sure not all venos are the same). Heavy battle venos FTWb:cute which do have a repair cost especially on TT axesb:shocked but you should cover the cost if you grind alot.

I do agree to stop worrying about other classes. I mean geez if we all looked at ourselves than others then the world would be happier. Too much envy in the world.

As for the topic. I don't think regular venomancers make more money. They do have to pay for food or just buy a Blessing, then there is pots, armor, weapon, etc. They usually spend money on their pet skills (which is really expensive) plus they spend real life money and/or coin for an ugly golden fat guy. Though if they have fatty then they can probably solo TTs BUT that depends on the veno. I've seen some pretty EPIC FAILS. And some just don't do TT soloing in general.

However if they don't have those $200 pets then they make the same amount as everyone else (That depending on grindtime + items = coin). Then they can sell low level pets but that's basically out because of the legendary pets. It's just how you spend the money. b:thanks

Kittennice - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Hey, I have fun at least.b:scorn You better put most venomancers do this because I don't fall in that category (And I'm sure not all venos are the same).

I was generally responding to this post :: http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=2828862&postcount=8

Feinrel - Heavens Tear wrote: »

well, i dont have an answer to your question, but i have another question xD.
I been hearing alot of people saying that a veno makes more money than the rest of the classes, how do you do that? I mean, a lvl20 veno earns 200k an hours? thats just great.

Tell me how do you do it, whats the dif between venos and the rest of the classes in terms of grinding. And gimme some tips also, cause with my BM, i can barely do 70-100k an hours and that with lots of luck.

TY b:thanks

The OP said they made 200k in 2 hours between the BM and the Veno which is probably ~100k/hour with the Veno.

Is the 70-100k before or after repairs/consumables?

Glamourness - Sanctuary wrote: »

How the heck do veno make 100k ~ 200k a hour? I can barely make 100k a day. You share some secrets.b:surrender

Farm dull claws, set kitty shop and sell them at about 5k each. Easy way to make 100-200k in an hour of grinding. (followed by catshop being left overnight selling the claws)

Feinrel - Heavens Tear wrote: »

well, i dont have an answer to your question, but i have another question xD.
I been hearing alot of people saying that a veno makes more money than the rest of the classes, how do you do that? I mean, a lvl20 veno earns 200k an hours? thats just great.

Tell me how do you do it, whats the dif between venos and the rest of the classes in terms of grinding. And gimme some tips also, cause with my BM, i can barely do 70-100k an hours and that with lots of luck.

TY b:thanks

cuz they don't use pots really, they don't get hit since pet tanks so no armor repair, and all they gotta do is repair wep

_River - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Speak for yourself... I repair a lot and I have to buy just as much equipment as any other spell caster. I use charms as I'm double charmed and I keep my gear the best it can be for my level as well as upgrading my pets skills.


Contrary to popular belief, not all venos are rich. I myself have plenty of rares and decent equipment, but I WONT sell any of it to become rich. I don't camp rare spawn sites and turn to sell them for profit. I actually spend my coins, no matter the cost, on keeping my gear current and powerful. I'm not afraid to lose money cause I know I can get it all back in the end.

I can't say anything about blademasters, since I don't have a blademaster. But that's my piece on venos.

Thats a waste. You can't take full advantage of nature's grace, metabolic boost, or soul transfusion like that.

sure i'll buy that, i don't have a crazy amount of money right now

Now there's the key. I can go down to 0 coins, and with a little effort, I can be back to over 500k in a couple hours easily.

_River - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I take advantage of nature's grace, metabolic boost, and soul transfusion. However the cooldown times are awful and if I'm in a TT run where there's aoe and no BB, I need my hp so I can take damage. if I'm double charmed, its easier than transfusing and dying. The same goes for tw. If I do a tw and I die, its nice to regen with FULL hp and mp, instead of ticking my charm 2 times to regen mp or hp.

I try to look at all aspects. If you don't like to be double charmed, that's up to you. But I prefer to be able to spam my attacks and amp damage, even with the level 3 foxform. As each time I use foxform with a charm I tick. Its better than suffering a death and loss of exp or angels than not going with a charm.

I guess i can see what you're saying, but I still don't like MP charms on a fox. I had one of those free ones from the box, and I went through that like nothing. Just running around switching fox form and back ate through a lot of it.
In tw, I see how that could be useful. I usually just carry some mp pots on me if nature's grace hasn't cooled down since i don't really use those anywhere else.