Mold Stealers

grae · June 2009

So Iwas in an fb89 with a friend, we had a free spot, this guy from Rad was putside, we thought it ok and let him come along, when we were killing the 2nd boss (before fats) a mold dropped, the +5% hp one, also gives 7~8 str.
we then obviously asked him to give back, he logged, end of story.

Don't need to flame the guy, but know well not to take him with you, ai'nt the first time he does something like that, he stole a bunch of tt mats too, he and some other gusy from Rad, one of then said they would bank and split at end, got to end they logged.

Vulpix - Lost City · June 2009

Cool story bro. Anyways, you should have PKd him.

MentalEdge - Heavens Tear · June 2009

You DO NOT TRUST Rad b:angry

Silly silly guy!b:angry

Ju$tiCE - Heavens Tear · June 2009

I feel sorry for the tabber, that necklace is very rare, Sky Demon Pearl I think... worth around 9m.

His name is something like Ron_ (replace _ with a letter :P ) huh? forgot what faction he's in at the moment but when I was shouting him out in WC, there were SO many people PM-ing me back saying that guy is an ****... I guess there's nothing much to do except tell others about this guy. Hopefully he'll give it back (like Velvet-- did back a couple of months), but if he doesn't, his Call To Duty-ing days are over :P

Seriously though, someone gets an invite to FB (free exp + rep), everyone agreed to tabbers drops AND he steals the necklace and logs off. pathetic..

good luck to your friend $:\$

MentalEdge - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You DO NOT TRUST Rad b:angry

Silly silly guy!b:angry

You can't generalize that everyone from Radiance is the same That's being close-minded. It's just this one guy who is an ****... I'm sure there are some nice people in Rad (:

Defected - Heavens Tear · June 2009

You mean RonY?

You can say names.

Don't be scared.

Edit: Forgot to add... Enrage is always willing to help with any FB. We don't steal drops. We're evil bad people, but we love our FBs and make sure the tabber gets molds/3stars/apocs in their 89.

Aerole - Heavens Tear · June 2009

It really sucks that there's nothing you can do about it. I guess you could set the squad distribution to free mode but nothing stops them from picking it up either. Sorry to hear =/

Kazue - Heavens Tear · June 2009

grae wrote: »

So Iwas in an fb89 with a friend, we had a free spot, this guy from Rad was putside, we thought it ok and let him come along, when we were killing the 2nd boss (before fats) a mold dropped, the +5% hp one, also gives 7~8 str.
we then obviously asked him to give back, he logged, end of story.

Don't need to flame the guy, but know well not to take him with you, ai'nt the first time he does something like that, he stole a bunch of tt mats too, he and some other gusy from Rad, one of then said they would bank and split at end, got to end they logged.

What can you really expect from a guild thats been going down hill for two months now.

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary · June 2009

Defected - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You mean RonY?

You can say names.

Don't be scared.

Edit: Forgot to add... Enrage is always willing to help with any FB. We don't steal drops. We're evil bad people, but we love our FBs and make sure the tabber gets molds/3stars/apocs in their 89.

too bad were on different servers, Im an evil bad person too ):<

sorry you got screwed OP, its usually hard to trust big factions these days, most of them are money hungry greed trains. yes, greedy and evil are two different things peoplez!

Theotus - Heavens Tear · June 2009

You definately can't generalize radiance for junk players. Nor any other faction, really. I have good friends in rad, evo, and enrage, and they would never do things like that.

Teseanna - Heavens Tear · June 2009

He isn't in Radiance anymore. He was prolly dealt with.

Fliiick - Heavens Tear · June 2009

He was in Rad? I thought he was factionless....

But yeah, Tao had him in guild for.. oooh.... 3 days? Before throwing him out on his backside.

That guy is bad blood, do NOT trust him, EVER

TBH if the whole of Heaven's Tear reads this forum then he may as well just give up playing... I mean, how many friends does he really have?

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear · June 2009

Ju$tiCE - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I feel sorry for the tabber, that necklace is very rare, Sky Demon Pearl I think... worth around 9m.

His name is something like Ron_ (replace _ with a letter :P ) huh? forgot what faction he's in at the moment but when I was shouting him out in WC, there were SO many people PM-ing me back saying that guy is an ****... I guess there's nothing much to do except tell others about this guy. Hopefully he'll give it back (like Velvet-- did back a couple of months), but if he doesn't, his Call To Duty-ing days are over :P

Seriously though, someone gets an invite to FB (free exp + rep), everyone agreed to tabbers drops AND he steals the necklace and logs off. pathetic..

good luck to your friend $:\$

You can't generalize that everyone from Radiance is the same That's being close-minded. It's just this one guy who is an ****... I'm sure there are some nice people in Rad (:

Nothing in the original post states that they agree to tabber keep drops.

Fliiick - Heavens Tear · June 2009

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Nothing in the original post states that they agree to tabber keep drops.

Who DOESN'T agree with tabber keeping drops? Seriously

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear · June 2009

Fliiick - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Who DOESN'T agree with tabber keeping drops? Seriously

You are still making an assumption. It was not stated that they followed that rule.
The OP had no problem stating that someone else, at a TT run offered to bank than ran away with the mats. Although it is common to bank TT mats, the op was very specific about it, however he/she did not mentioned what the terms of the FB were.

If they had agreed to it, it would be bad, but until that is clarified, you cannot assume it was the case.

Fliiick - Heavens Tear · June 2009

To me it sounds like you're making excuses for him

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear · June 2009

Fliiick - Heavens Tear wrote: »

To me it sounds like you're making excuses for him

It does not say, anywhere in the OP post that they were doing a tabbed run. For all we know, they were not using tabs and were farming molds.

I am not making excuses, I personaly do not like people that cannot follow agreed rules. However, nothing in the OP post says that they were following "tabber keeps drops". In fact it says, they had one spot and invited some guy that was standing outside the FB, nowhere it says they went over the rules of who gets what with him or that they were even doing a tabbed run.

You are making assumptions that:
1. Everyone had agreed to it (nothing in the post says that)
2. That they even had tabs (nothing in the post says that, only that they were running it).

So you are assuming alot based on a very generic post.

MiniST - Sanctuary · June 2009

Fliiick - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Who DOESN'T agree with tabber keeping drops? Seriously

for fb79 and below, yeah, most ppl will go along with tabber keeping drops. But for fb89+, hell no.

Ju$tiCE - Heavens Tear · June 2009

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Nothing in the original post states that they agree to tabber keep drops.

I spoke with OP in game.

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear · June 2009

Ju$tiCE - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I spoke with OP in game.

So you spoke with OP in game, what did the OP say?

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 · June 2009

XP and Rep are lousy incentives to FB. I can get much more XP normal grinding and rep requirements in this game are a joke.

The only reasons I would go to an FB these days:
1) Helping out friends / guildmates
2) Fair shot at molds (only fb69+ really, don't care about molds in lower dungeons)
3) I am really bored

What if TT runs adopted a similar policy? The one who provides the subs gets all the drops. After all you do gain XP from going on TT runs as well. Anyone interested in that?

grae · June 2009

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

So you spoke with OP in game, what did the OP say?

Yes it was a tabbed run, yes everyone agreed to tabber keeps drops, we were amongst friends (other than RonY obviously), yes I did especify in my op beacuse I assumed people thought it commom sense to just help out a friend.

cybluerr · June 2009

Always try to do your fb with your faction since there should always be clear written rules for faction fb runs regarding drops. At level 79+ you shouldnt be running around faction-less unless of course you're an **** like this RonY guy b:chuckle

grae · June 2009

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

XP and Rep are lousy incentives to FB. I can get much more XP normal grinding and rep requirements in this game are a joke.

The only reasons I would go to an FB these days:
1) Helping out friends / guildmates
2) Fair shot at molds (only fb69+ really, don't care about molds in lower dungeons)
3) I am really bored

What if TT runs adopted a similar policy? The one who provides the subs gets all the drops. After all you do gain XP from going on TT runs as well. Anyone interested in that?

you of all people should know the difference between a fb and a tt, it's not like people that go there don't really need anything, and of course there are cases where they don't, all in all, as long as the party agrees in a whole to something then yeah, if they agree to do a tt run and let subber keep all the drops, what's to stop then from doing it?

and before someone says I did not state something for fb, well RonY agreed on start too, he lied from the beggining, got greedy, had his chance, and ran away with it.

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary · June 2009

i dont agree with 'tabber' gets drops

. alot of times i end up paying for the wine for people who cant afford it, tank everything, and blow alot of supplies. why should the lowbie not doing anything reap all the rewards, its not very fair to ask me to give up a fairly expensive mold for a guy who sits around and does nothing in the FB >_>;

grae · June 2009

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »

i dont agree with 'tabber' gets drops . alot of times i end up paying for the wine for people who cant afford it, tank everything, and blow alot of supplies. why should the lowbie not doing anything reap all the rewards, its not very fair to ask me to give up a fairly expensive mold for a guy who sits around and does nothing in the FB >_>;

You do realize that not everyone is like this, and that some (like our friend) shared his reward, me for instance, he gave me a -6%channelling belt that he identified, our veno got last 2 pages she needed to get her 79 debuff skill.

WitchBurner - Sanctuary · June 2009

If they aren't providing the wine then they shouldn't be expecting dibs on goodies.

On the other hand if your only doing it for the mold(As asterelle said), then why not just farm the thing in a squad?

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear · June 2009

grae wrote: »

Yes it was a tabbed run, yes everyone agreed to tabber keeps drops, we were amongst friends (other than RonY obviously), yes I did especify in my op beacuse I assumed people thought it commom sense to just help out a friend.

If that had been stated at the begining of the post it would had made it much more clear.

Cat - Heavens Tear · June 2009

Feel free to yell for me anytime you need an FB done. I think the tabber should keep the drops no matter what FB it is.

So if your having problems finding people to take you who want your drops just shoot me a PM if Im on, and we will get it done and you will get your drops. b:thanks

Vidalaire - Heavens Tear · June 2009

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »

i dont agree with 'tabber' gets drops . alot of times i end up paying for the wine for people who cant afford it, tank everything, and blow alot of supplies. why should the lowbie not doing anything reap all the rewards, its not very fair to ask me to give up a fairly expensive mold for a guy who sits around and does nothing in the FB >_>;

You know you could've just soloed the FB with your Herc and kept all the drops for yourself. Unless this was an FB69 of course. If I'm providing the Herc and the wine, then I'd just as soon not bother with your tabs and keep the drops.

As for the OP, I actually know RonY. He's on my friends list. I've only been on a few TT 2-3's with him and had no major problems. There was only one slight problem on a run. The tank(StickyGreen) and I wanted to skip Astral since his drops are dirt cheap and it was getting late. RonY put up a stink since he said he had a Belial squad coming and he wanted to clear the way for them. We finally got him to agree and split the mats when we suggested that his Belial squad should kill Astral.

That's the extent of my dealings with him. Mats always got split fairly and runs were done fast. If he did steal that mold, then that definitely puts him down low on Clerics I would invite on an FB. Although, he was already on the low-end of that list. And yeah that mold is a heartbreaker. That boss is a major pain to kill.

vagrant0 · June 2009

Moral of the story, don't run a FB with people you don't know. I've run all of mine with whatever faction I happen to be in at the time, even if it was just for that month, and have not yet had any problems. Even these people who are making Worldchats are somewhat more reliable if you have seen them do it more than a few times over a few days. Random people, or those that just sit in chatrooms however, I wouldn't trust them even if I was running a FB19 at level 80 (yes, could solo it, beside the point) and had 0 chance of a mold drop.

Tehfishy - Heavens Tear · June 2009

happened to me on my FB51 b:angry Some rad barb (low 60's) stole a mold from me.

Then later on while i was helping a friend do his FB51 a legion barb stole a demon ring from my friend.

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