Do you grind in tiger form?

Lvl 82 Barb, here...

I grind primarily in normal form, NOT in Tiger.

A few reasons for this:

a. I have loads of hp and my skills are high level, they do pretty good damage (generally around 7-8k per hit, normal up to 18k crits). The added defence of tiger form is generally not too great a factor to me, as I'd sooner kill a mob quicker, and let my hp regen as needed.

b. Beastial Onsaught is my main grinding skill... I have it at lvl 9, it does massive damage, and crits often (but that's probably just my gear), and the skill is not usable in tiger..

c. Tiger has no ranged attacks. There are some decent AoE skills like Surf Impact, which can do alright (much like Slam). Sunder is a superb AoE, but requires 2 sparks. In normal form, I can use slightly better ranged attacks which do not require me to be at point-blank range.

There are 2 specific cases in which I will fight a mob in Tiger form (or at least switch from tiger first, to Normal). Here are 2 very good tips I will share with you:

1. If you're fighting an "Increased Defence" mob, Devour it and then switch to Normal form to hammer out more damage. Devour is far better at reducing defence than Penetrate Armour is. At lvl 10, Devour will reduce physical defence by 50%, compared to "only" 30% of Penetrate Armour.

2. Frighten. USE THIS SKILL!! It reduces the amount of amount of damage dealt to you, and slows a mob. This is great when you are fighting mobs with "Increased Attack" or "Increased Movement Speed" (as well as those pain in the **** ranged mobs which run from you).

Rakthor - Lost City wrote: »

HUMANOID=FASTER BUT MORE EXPENSIVE
TIGER=SLOWER BUT CHEAPER

Can you explain this to me? noob barb here. As tiger i find grinding much slower therefore i get hit more and it costs more to repair. Im interested which form to grind in as well

tiger form has way too many advantages, besides its only normal atacks that suffer the -%
and not the skills. To me tiger form is way better and i dont have to worry about those human skills and I can focus more on being a tank and the tiger skills.

I grind in tiger form. I find that with a maxed posion fang, the difference in damage is minimal. In humanoid I might do 3-4k dmg, in tiger I do 2.5-3.5kdmg.

Besides the added HP and pdef, I like the following:

Alclarity (lvl7+) = no more magic attacks from mobs
Devour = 50% pdef reduction = faster killing.
Sunder = no more pots or chams used + decent damage

The genie skills are a great help no doubt, but personally to me they are just another kind of pot and I dont want to be potting while grinding.

Its a choice:

Humanoid = faster killing, more exp gained per hour, more charm/pots/powders/genie cost per hour.

Tiger = slower killing, less exp gained per hour, no charm/pots/powders/genie costs.

If the mobs are runners or if they are spaced far apart then tiger form is faster and I use that. But in most cases humanoid form is faster.

With Advanced Spark Eruption healing 10% plus the occasional Tree of Protection I don't usually trigger my HP charm in either mode.

TangLung - Lost City wrote: »

2. Frighten. USE THIS SKILL!! It reduces the amount of amount of damage dealt to you, and slows a mob. This is great when you are fighting mobs with "Increased Attack" or "Increased Movement Speed" (as well as those pain in the **** ranged mobs which run from you).

Lol, since when do mobs have weapon dmg to even reduce?

Frighten says it reducing the enemy's physical attack by 12% WEAPON DAMAGE.

I've tested this on belial a 2 or so levels on hh boses (including belial)

There is no diff imo.


On a side note once the genies came out I Immediately started grinding in tiger form.

My reason for this was the following

A) Tiger form skills require half as less mana

b) I have more hp so I can kill twice as many mobs before I have to use tree of protection, which is more stamina efficent on my genie.

c) Flesh ream never misses and is an automatic bleed on your mob + alacrity of the beast can cancel magic attacks and paralyze kiting mobs.
not to mention Devour reduces your mobs pdef by half and attack level now.

D) Sunder **** in pve and also has excellent bleed dmg.

I'm 100% tiger tank... so yeah I grind in tiger all right... For lower levels (below 70) I recommend just lvl 2 of tiger form... Once your big enough lvl 70+ that's when you make the change to lvl 3... I waited until I was ~lvl 75 or so. Yeah grinding in tiger is the most economical. Mobs hit you for less you hit them a little less (-50% at lvl3). You can cancel casting 90%+ of the time if you know how to time mobs... And sunder is up for the healing.

low barb here but trying to stay on topic every time i am a in tiger form i take much more damage then if i am humanoid. i tested this with a duel between a barb with the same armor everything but the build but he was close to my stats (by one or 2) and he dueled in tiger and i dueled in human i did this around 5 times and came out with the same results humanoids winning i am not sure if it is just because i just started on this barb or if i can honestly say this what do u guys think

DestroyTokyo - Lost City wrote: »

And no.. it really doesn't

Feel free to try this skill around on the horses near 1k. I'm quite sure the dmg will go down from roughly 150 per to around 100~110. Works well for me when getting swarmed.

Also keep in mind this skill is an aoe, very useful for tanking. Although it doesn't take back aggro, it'll take aggro if no one has touched a particular mob. Helpful if your roar is still on cooldown or if the mobs are magic and surf impact won't reach em.

DestroyTokyo - Lost City wrote: »

Lol, since when do mobs have weapon dmg to even reduce?

Lol, I know exactly what you mean, but apparently they do.

Frighten definitely works. Mine is still at lvl1 (I use it as a chi regen tool and for grouping mobs, when roar is cooling), but even then I do see a difference, albeit a slight one.

Its same as devour reducing the enemy's attack level. Can attack level go below 0? Apparently so, since I do see a slight reduction in damage with devour.

Haha, nevah!
My advice, if you want to Lv fast, don't grind. Just daily, and sometime it gives 10x normal daily value you get per day.