genie skils for venos

Hi!

Im still in the process of trying out different genie skills. I only have one genie leveled up to my own level.
What i come up with so far is: one genie is probably not enough. It will take a long time before we understand the benefits of different skills in different situations.
The genie i use now is a zeal type. I like it because they have the fastest regen of all.
And the skills i use atm are:
Tree of protection, its a decent save my but heal if used rigth. Use it after your charm ticked not before. You dont have to max the level of it cause the part that is useful is the 2x25% healtick is what you want.

Extreme poison, debuffs the target 20% + 1% for every 10dex point. It only cost 55 energy to cast and it last 10secs so it can almost be spammed by the zeal genie.

Hollow Fist, debuff 20% phy def 10 secs + 1sec for every 20dex point. At lev 10 it cost a wopping 122 energy and 1281 stamina. So expensive to use. Also do 1081 damage and bleed 1000 over 9 secs.

Tai Chi, At level 10 it buff you and your pt with +40%
speed for 15secs and regen hp 50/sec for 15secs. This is the latest one i try and i like it. That speed buff buys time when you mess up and your pet dies. Watch out though i heard the hp regen part will over run the clerics. So after 15secs you dont have any hp regen at all. Have not yet tried if its the same with apothec pots.

Anyway what i tried to do was looking for genie skills that all needed points put in dex to become better.
But when i leveled some skills i needed to put more in vitality to be able to use them. So be careful if you dont have points to distrubute.

Also fyi points you put in dex are NOT shown in the general skill description. According to GM:s the skills do get better. And maybe they will change it sometime so you see the result asap in the skill information.

Chabi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Hollow Fist, debuff 20% phy def 10 secs + 1sec for every 20dex point. At lev 10 it cost a wopping 122 energy and 1281 stamina. So expensive to use. Also do 1081 damage and bleed 1000 over 9 secs.

Does it stack with ironwood scarab? If not, dont really see point with it..

I did have the tai chi skill but I noticed it only increases the squad member's speed,
not your own. I was 7.3 m/s with and without tai chi, with my own speed buff and
an archer's speed buff. Perhaps useful when you have slow clerics but I noticed the
tai chi skill description also no where states that it increases your own speed

For a speed skill I kinda went with relentless courage, Increases attack speed 12%,
movement speed 30% and reduce casting time by 6%, lasting for 8 seconds.
Well I thought it was useful since I use both fox and mage form.

Ladydeadlock - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Does it stack with ironwood scarab? If not, dont really see point with it..

Yes Hollow Fist stacks with Ironwood. I'm trying to decide between Hollow Fist and Extreme Poison for boss fights. The genie's energy regen rate and the high energy cost of both skills really make it pointless to try to use both in the same fight. If I were in "normal" groups with casters DDing, then EP would be the obvious choice. But I always seem to wind up in melee and archer-heavy groups so it's really a toss-up between the two. HF seems like it would be more useful when soloing and spam healing.

Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yes Hollow Fist stacks with Ironwood. I'm trying to decide between Hollow Fist and Extreme Poison for boss fights. The genie's energy regen rate and the high energy cost of both skills really make it pointless to try to use both in the same fight. If I were in "normal" groups with casters DDing, then EP would be the obvious choice. But I always seem to wind up in melee and archer-heavy groups so it's really a toss-up between the two. HF seems like it would be more useful when soloing and spam healing.

I have both HF and EP, what I do is use HF at the begining of fight, until I am sure I will not steal aggro, than use EP, since it also affects my spells.
Regarding stamina cost.. I just went from level 1 tailor and accessories to 5 in one sitting (was saving mats for ever), so my genie is VERY FAT atm.... (close to 800k stamina points).

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I have both HF and EP, what I do is use HF at the begining of fight, until I am sure I will not steal aggro, than use EP, since it also affects my spells.

I don't think debuffs affect whether or not you steal aggro. In the testing I did, pierce (decrease phys defense) increased the melee damage I did, but also increased the amount of damage I had to do to take aggro. So it seems aggro is calculated based on the raw damage, and the debuff simply multiplies that raw damage before applying it to the mob as damage.

Granted this was for melee and I still have to test it for spells.

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=2630911#post2630911

I ended up dropping Hollow Fist. Its debuff stays the same with increased level but the energy requirement increased (the damage portion increases as well), while Extreme Poison's energy requirement stays the same and the effects increase with level. Increased energy requirement = fewer applications during a fight, which pretty much cancels out the benefit of increased damage. Basically, HF is a solo-friendly skill, while EP is a squad-friendly skill.'

I've been playing around with Tangling Mire vs. EP now. TM only debuffs physical defense, but it's AOE. So all those extra mobs bashing on your herc take additional reflect damage, not just the main target. TM's energy cost also goes up with level, but it tops out at 53 energy (vs. 55 for EP), so the two are very similar in spamability. The movement speed debuff is useful for runners too. Its main drawback is a 30 sec cooldown. It doesn't affect the spamability (takes more than 30 sec for a 40 mag genie to regen then 53 energy), but sometimes I'd like to apply it twice in quick succession.

A cleric friend had holy path (movement speed set to 15 m/s for 3.3 to 6 sec). That was really nice for insuring that I survived pulls.