Barbarians; why did you break them?
Amour - Lost City
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Sooo with the new expansion came genies, which everyone has been babbling about nonstop, which left the new buff to barb skills unnoticed.
Mighty swing not missing?
Hell true form 80% movement speed?
bestial rage absorbs magic damage when used?
None of these (and there are more) were mentioned in the patch notes and all I want to know is WHY?
Berserk axes already made barbarian class overpowered because it allowed the tanker class to officially 1shot any robe/LA class, and if not 1shot then mow them down with ease. But with this buff to their skills it makes barbarians even MORE ridiculous, because they were overpowered before, now it's just broken.
Combined with genie skills such as 50(60?)% reduced damage, tree of protection, etc, how is anyone supposed to deal with them?
I'd rather have to deal with a phoenix then a barb at this point, even if you took away blood clot and/or healing.
Mighty swing not missing?
Hell true form 80% movement speed?
bestial rage absorbs magic damage when used?
None of these (and there are more) were mentioned in the patch notes and all I want to know is WHY?
Berserk axes already made barbarian class overpowered because it allowed the tanker class to officially 1shot any robe/LA class, and if not 1shot then mow them down with ease. But with this buff to their skills it makes barbarians even MORE ridiculous, because they were overpowered before, now it's just broken.
Combined with genie skills such as 50(60?)% reduced damage, tree of protection, etc, how is anyone supposed to deal with them?
I'd rather have to deal with a phoenix then a barb at this point, even if you took away blood clot and/or healing.
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yep.
goodluck killing catas in TWb:surrender0 -
You'd have to be an idiot to try tanking a barbarian. That's how DPS classes die - thinking they can be tanks.
To not lose 1 v 1 is supposed to be a benefit of being a tank in this game, and this only makes it much more so. Likewise, if you know this, it's not like you can't survive one. Just fly away or kite the barb, and he'll never reach you.
The skills boosts don't make us THAT overpowered. Mighty swing still only has 50% chance to stun. If that doesn't work, you can just fly/walk away from us and laugh as we chase you in vain.
Alacrity will only bind you for 3 seconds, again with a 50% chance to work, and we have to be in tiger form to use that.
The tiger form speed boost is worthless in most PVP situations, since it only does anything when we're running on the ground.
Beastial rage will only absorb (AT MAX) 2000 damage if we use it when our HP IS BELOW 50%. 2000 damage end-game isn't really all that much at all...That's roughly 1 or 2 shots from an archer/LA mage, and probably not even enough to cover up from a robe mage shot.
Barbs aren't broken. Just stay a few meters ahead of us and there's not much we can do. If you're a LA or robe stupid enough to try tanking a tank, then you deserve to get pked by em.0 -
Use teh power of sex appeal!
Seduce them into thinking you are one hot mama for a Barbarian (females only... or efficent against barbarians seeking a domestic partnership). Then... when they don't know it, hit them with everything you got!! Pew Pew!!!
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Arravis - Lost City wrote: »Beastial rage will only absorb (AT MAX) 2000 damage if we use it when our HP IS BELOW 50%. 2000 damage end-game isn't really all that much at all...That's roughly 1 or 2 shots from an archer/LA mage, and probably not even enough to cover up from a robe mage shot.
It's already hard enough to kill a wb in 10 seconds and now you can save even more time for your heiro to tick. WB's hit ****ing hard and onslaught **** people. If a wb has the ability to tank four people their damage shouldn't one shot people.0 -
hmm.... wait till they get soul transfusion forced on them in tw ... wonder how that's gonna turn out - maybe they'll really break then ^^0
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Tree of protection + extreme poison + perdition = GG
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Is it me or does it seems that archers didnt gain much compared to other classes with these genies... Will archers survive and still be the best pvp class?0
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Of course not, you are seriously gimped now.Goldian - Dreamweaver wrote: »Is it me or does it seems that archers didnt gain much compared to other classes with these genies... Will archers survive and still be the best pvp class?
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heheheh its good to know we're so fckn powerful.
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No, barbs are def broken as **** now... GG pw I'm walking around hitting 7 and 8x la for 25k9x WB
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Yh barbs are broken. Dont forget turtle can no longer be debuffed b:surrender good luck killing cata pullers in twOfficial Guild History
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Chaotiic - Lost City wrote: »Yh barbs are broken. Dont forget turtle can no longer be debuffed b:surrender good luck killing cata pullers in tw
whoa can't debuff turtle? Why aren't more barbs using that in pvp?
gonna have to check that out later.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I didn't see many barbs in pvp but I always used turtle, it can be the only way to survive against venos and sparking DDsYourmom - Lost City wrote: »whoa can't debuff turtle? Why aren't more barbs using that in pvp?
gonna have to check that out later.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
TheGoliath - Heavens Tear wrote: »I didn't see many barbs in pvp but I always used turtle, it can be the only way to survive against venos and sparking DDs
spark i usually just debuff, i'd have to kite around for a bit if people start using turtle.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Goldian - Dreamweaver wrote: »Is it me or does it seems that archers didnt gain much compared to other classes with these genies... Will archers survive and still be the best pvp class?
that is so true... archers now have nothing to keep them from dieing in 3 sec or 2 hits =.="....wiz get there abosrb and heal, venos got their nix and power genie skill+ soul trade..barbs you know what they got..ITS OVER ARCHERS AND BECOME EXTINCT!b:shedtearb:infuriatedb:irritated
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TheGoliath - Heavens Tear wrote: »I didn't see many barbs in pvp but I always used turtle, it can be the only way to survive against venos and sparking DDs
b:cute you cant see WB PvP in PvE b:bye0 -
GG time to start a barb
i say 2 more weeks and 90% of all players are barbs
nice job on this .... NOT !!!0 -
Devoted - Lost City wrote: »It's already hard enough to kill a wb in 10 seconds and now you can save even more time for your heiro to tick. WB's hit ****ing hard and onslaught **** people. If a wb has the ability to tank four people their damage shouldn't one shot people.
doesnt our "1 shot" skill cost us oh... a mere 50%! hp and mp... yeah....Goldian - Dreamweaver wrote: »Is it me or does it seems that archers didnt gain much compared to other classes with these genies... Will archers survive and still be the best pvp class?
weren't archers the "anyone can be pro at PvP" class?
how many people really have the integrity to level a full tank build after being every other class, particularly venos, that level much faster? they would quit after comparing what they had beforeMoongirl - Harshlands wrote: »GG time to start a barb
i say 2 more weeks and 90% of all players are barbs
nice job on this .... NOT !!!0 -
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Reevoive - Lost City wrote: »doesnt our "1 shot" skill cost us oh... a mere 50%! hp and mp... yeah....
That's why you use it at the right time. With tree of protection the person you are attacking will be dead so having your heiro tick won't make a difference
Archers are good at pvp because they are a very versatile class. Medium defense for both defenses, both magical and physical attacks. You aren't instantly pro at pvp because you are an archer, people chose them for their flexiblity. Look at the archer forums to see that you aren't automatically pro at pvp - werefox forum is what you are looking for.weren't archers the "anyone can be pro at PvP" class?how many people really have the integrity to level a full tank build after being every other class, particularly venos, that level much faster? they would quit after comparing what they had before
Smart people help level their barbarian friends (ie. we let barb's grind at undines with us)
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FINALLY some people who give barbs the credit we deserve in pking.
"nu-uh, archers can beat barbs at 89"
"oooh, barbs have low range"
"nu-uh, blademasters can stunlock and kick ur ****"
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And I quit playing my barb too. b:cryI was early taught to work as well as play,
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im a barb, and i laugh at how overpowered we are... its funny.. lolLess QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks
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everyone is forgetting the barb and BM skills that reflects magic dmg back. My friend used it when i was about 2 hit her with sandstorm and it threw a nice 1 shot sandstorm right in my face. idk if its fixed becasue thsi was before the patch, but damn that was OP. btw : It reflected the damage I did on her with her defence, not mine so if i woulda hit... say 600 on me, it didnt matter, I hit 1.2k on her so i got hit 1.2k T_TReevoive - Lost City wrote: »doesnt our "1 shot" skill cost us oh... a mere 50%! hp and mp... yeah....
Im a mage, I would give alot for my gush to 1 shot at the cost of half my hp and mana.0 -
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DishyWiggles - Harshlands wrote: »everyone is forgetting the barb and BM skills that reflects magic dmg back. My friend used it when i was about 2 hit her with sandstorm and it threw a nice 1 shot sandstorm right in my face. idk if its fixed becasue thsi was before the patch, but damn that was OP. btw : It reflected the damage I did on her with her defence, not mine so if i woulda hit... say 600 on me, it didnt matter, I hit 1.2k on her so i got hit 1.2k T_T
Im a mage, I would give alot for my gush to 1 shot at the cost of half my hp and mana.
Uh...thats why if ur wiz you get mages star and absorb the damage reflected back.........didnt think of that now did u?0 -
DishyWiggles - Harshlands wrote: »everyone is forgetting the barb and BM skills that reflects magic dmg back. My friend used it when i was about 2 hit her with sandstorm and it threw a nice 1 shot sandstorm right in my face. idk if its fixed becasue thsi was before the patch, but damn that was OP. btw : It reflected the damage I did on her with her defence, not mine so if i woulda hit... say 600 on me, it didnt matter, I hit 1.2k on her so i got hit 1.2k T_T
Is this in duel, PvP, and TW? Or just duel/TW? Cause I want my bramble back if it's PvP too.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Untamed class has always been slightly OP in this game <.<
And it goes for both venos and barbs. Hard as fk to kill due to godly skills and nice hp-mod per vita. Can tank alot of ppl and still **** face dmg wise. Barbs have together with wiz the strongest ulti of all. Difference is barbs can tank a full pk-party. Wizzies are kinda squishy and can get 1-3 shoot. Genies also gives barbs skills that add even more dmg + ability to chainstun + the fact that mighty swing dont miss anymore since patch.
Clerics, archers, wiz, BM cant really compete 1v1 if same lvl and gear against either barb or nix. We can like tick a barbs charm and try to fly away. I mean there is a reason most nix owners only fear barbs b:surrender. And a reason barbs hate nix owners.
Human and elf classes always had to choose either dmg or hp. While untamed kinda got blessed with both + lot of defense skills that makes them live longer. I think basically developers worked a couple of extra years with untamed while the rest just got made up in couple of days low-budget style.
And wtf with room 34 and barbs. Thats even more **** and unfair than nixes. Everyone getting soloed by lvl 80+ barbs in pk room activating middle ball and goes tigerform b:cry.0 -
i am a barb, and i agree we are probably the most OP class in the game
venos arent OP, nixes are. i count a nix as its own player >__>0
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