How good is winged shell as regenning mana

Lunassis - Lost City wrote: »

I use it this is a nice defense skill,
it add more evasion, movement speed and at lvl 10 increase your defense (mag/phys) by 33% if i remember good (at university atm q.q).

What? o.o Did you just made your own skill mixing winged shield and wings of grace?


Winged shield lvl 10: absorb 840 dmg up till 20seconds.

Wings of grace: Increase invasion,movement speed and df by 30% also prevents from being sutnned and sleep.



Luna idk if your server is diff from mine but winged shield doesnt give me suc h stuff like you said... or its an hidden ability? o.0

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »

I was lvling up my Archer who I use as mule and was trying winged shell as someone said it is good.What do you all think and how many of you use it?

Wingged Shell is one of the Archer's core skills. It is very useful as a Defense Skill in both PvP and PvE. There is no discussion here !

Wingged Shell also provides MP regeneration. It should be enough MP regen for any archer, but of course there are a lot of skill spammers around there that have absolutely no idea how to play their archer and need pots or even charms for the MP regen (If you wanna use spells, play a damn wizard). I am not saying that some items (helm, robes for example; I use legendary armor of Barbarian Shamman since lev 45 and will keep it till I hit 60.) aren't useful if they have a MP regen, because they are --> makes grinding and questing more comfortable. Conclusion : Wingged Shell's regen should be sufficient. If it is not,there is a good chance that you are playing your archer awful.

One. ROFL - if flamming was the first thought that crossed your mind, no matter what my opinion was (good, bad, constructive or plain idiot), than i really feel sorry for you b:chuckle

And second ROFL again : you will be amazed to see that any good archer won't spam skills and will use Wingged Shell for MP regen. Try reading some beginner guides in the sticky if you don't have my word for it! b:chuckle

Chowy - Lost City wrote: »

I actually use it a lot for the mana regen when I solo grind. I always have Chi to spare for it

To be totally honest, I haven't ever used shell for the mana regen, to be furthermore honest I didn't read that part of the description until lvl 5X lol.

I always play my archer with an MP charm, and hardly skill at all, just the normal frost and KB when needed. I do however use double spark quite a lot, just for the satisfaction of 2-3 hitting a mob my level with normal shots..

Anyway, I am rambling, to my point / question, if I am wearing an MP charm, my mana never drops below 3/4, would it be an effictive use of the shell for regen, or should I just save the chi, as I do at the moment, for my double spark assaults?

Ta b:bye

Lunnark - Sanctuary wrote: »

One. ROFL - if flamming was the first thought that crossed your mind, no matter what my opinion was (good, bad, constructive or plain idiot), than i really feel sorry for you b:chuckle

And second ROFL again : you will be amazed to see that any good archer won't spam skills and will use Wingged Shell for MP regen. Try reading some beginner guides in the sticky if you don't have my word for it! b:chuckle

I personally hardly ever use it, mobs dont get to me very often and i wear charms cause i find it make the gaming experience more fun for me (get to do stupid things).

Now the question was IS Winged Shell a GOOD MP regenerator?

Simply put id say its not, but it has other uses (damage absorbtion) why isnt it a good MP regenerator? Well it costs MP to cast and a good chunk of chi too.

Level 1 WS costs 40 MP 45 Chi and Regens 60 MP net gain 20 MP
Level 10 WS costs 238 MP 45 Chi and Regens 384 MP net gain 146 MP

Thats not a very big gain in MP, and i presume (though i havent really noticed) that it only regens the full amount of MP if it lasts the maximum possible length. Note that the skill description says its lasts UP TO 20 seconds, so i presume it doesnt always last that long ...

Personally i use pots so they are useful to me from the drops. I don't remember the last time i bought MP pots XD

I love my +3 MP regen armor b:laugh

Devoted - Lost City wrote: »

normal attacks -> level 1 knockback -> normal attacks

at this level i rarely get hit

i use level 10 winged shell on cooldown

b:bye mana pots

Why bye mana pots? at your lvl you use charms <.< and everyone uses that combo you just mentioned, it has been mentioned several times just in this topic, tough we mostly use frost arrow so we dont get hit, even tough we can do shield so we dont need hp pots. I think we still have repair bills. Lol

Goldian - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Lolz if you're talking bout pve not spamming skills then.. well its just frost and knockback and maybe shield..

And on pvp you do spam skills.. are you going to do frost arrow and regulars on a barb? Goodluck

Hehe, of course you need skills (metal ones in particular) in PvP against heavy armors.
In my previous posts I was mainly talking about normal questing and grinding!

Lunnark - Sanctuary wrote: »

Yes, you presumed correctly : you gain full mana if you can make it last all the 20 seconds, and not get hit a lot to wear it off.

So in the instance that it didnt last the full time you could actually lose MP?

Goldian - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Why bye mana pots? at your lvl you use charms <.< and everyone uses that combo you just mentioned, it has been mentioned several times just in this topic, tough we mostly use frost arrow so we dont get hit, even tough we can do shield so we dont need hp pots. I think we still have repair bills. Lol

I don't use heiros and I don't use frost because with just normal attacks I don't get hit. Also I don't use the shield to absorb damage, just mana recovery.