Who else thinks...(another genie thread)

Coldflash - Dreamweaver
Coldflash - Dreamweaver Posts: 88 Arc User
edited May 2009 in General Discussion
Who else thinks high lvls got royally screwed with the leveling of genies? Like everyone I was all excited about the genies, and like everyone I was a little disappointed by alot of the skills, but there are some good ones. In anycase so yeah I go and get my genie and my total of 111k free genie exp, and of course I start leveling it. Now before genies I was at lvl 82 and 98% (4.6mil exp) and had 300k spirit. I drained every last exp and spirit I had along with the exp cubes and my genie is only level 63 (not to mention because of my naturaly terrible luck I got less than half the lucky points >.>). So yeah imo the higher lvls got royally screwed by the genie leveling system...I mean yeah I understand why the leveling system is how it is, but surely they could make some sort of adjustment for the first genie you get or SOMETHING so we aren't so completely and utterly screwed. /rant
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  • Lieal - Dreamweaver
    Lieal - Dreamweaver Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    At level 80+ you should have enough SP to cover the levels of the genies to get pretty close to the genies... I wasted 4mil SP on my genies and 12% of my level, and with 98% at your level I don't think anyone would decide to spend that much on genies. >_>

    My friends that don't have enough SP are just content with sitting there and leveling their Genies when they can. Genies are not required for anything so it's not like you need to get it to your level ASAP.

    WQ + CS also give you 50k SP per day so just let it sit there for a few days and enjoy the sparkly effects. I went from 4mil SP to 112, and back to 180k in a day just by doing quests/dailies/some grinding.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Chocooo - Lost City
    Chocooo - Lost City Posts: 238 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Cost me about 9 mil sp to get my genie to level 89.
    Its not a small amount..
    Coupled with the 3 mil I needed to get my sage skills, I'm down to 200k sp now... haha..
  • Samalia - Sanctuary
    Samalia - Sanctuary Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    i dont know if i would be considered a high lv, but yeah my genie is actually lv 15, used like 13% exp to get it there or something and then i decided to stop. but i actually regret doing it now because the genie my new archer started with has a skill that decreases magic resistance by 30% as its starter skill, as an attack cleric i just think that alone makes genies an invaluable partner, even if only lv 1.

    sure it will take 2 minutes to recharge my genie so i can use the skill again. but i could already 1 hit most light armor users. if used at the right time it only makes it easier.

    i just think of genies as a thing from which i can produce/increase my damage that did not have last week.

    genies = thumbs up in my opinion
  • exent
    exent Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    You know, I've seen so many posts about people saying the got screwed by this or that... From the start, you decided to invest these points, so what are you saying? That you regret? Nobody HAS to use genies. Nobody HAS to use their precious xp or sp. That expansion is great cause it didn't cost ANYTHING. It gives players a new option.
    Now for all those who are gonna waste all their xp and sp and get frustrated if they don't get a gold genie at the end, well too bad for you. You knew from the start what you were doing. It's like all those who waste gold on lucky boxes and complain if they didn't get what they wanted.
    This is seriously one of the greates expansions I've seen in a long time, and I've played many games before. Trust me, I've seen what an epic fail expansion is, and this is as far as you can get from that...
  • Coldflash - Dreamweaver
    Coldflash - Dreamweaver Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Lieal - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    At level 80+ you should have enough SP to cover the levels of the genies to get pretty close to the genies... I wasted 4mil SP on my genies and 12% of my level, and with 98% at your level I don't think anyone would decide to spend that much on genies. >_>

    My friends that don't have enough SP are just content with sitting there and leveling their Genies when they can. Genies are not required for anything so it's not like you need to get it to your level ASAP.

    WQ + CS also give you 50k SP per day so just let it sit there for a few days and enjoy the sparkly effects. I went from 4mil SP to 112, and back to 180k in a day just by doing quests/dailies/some grinding.

    Yeah what world are you living in Lieal? Oh yeah the world of a veno...venos who don't use the foxform side of their skill tree (not saying you specifically don't) have so much freaking extra spirit they don't know what to do with it. Everytime I go to a wizard skill trainer I agonize over what skill to upgrade next with what precious little spirit I have. The ONLY time I have ever had 1 mil spirit is when I saved up for my Undine Strike, and I didn't have that mil spirit for more than 1 minute before I spent it. I am 3 levels behind in Force of Will, 8 lvls behind in Mountain Seize and Blade Tempest, and 3 lvls behind in Black Ice Dragon Strike. By the time I master force, and BIDS, I'll need to start saving up for my sage/demon skills.

    So yeah while you may have all the freaking spirit in the world some of us struggle to upgrade one skill. Then the genies with their reduced spirit/exp-exp ratio just runs us through with a sword, then beheads us. Also don't presume to know what I would or would not spend on something. I am in no particular rush to level anymore, and honestly I thought the genies would be far better than they are, but oh well. Would I rather have lvled? Probably yeah, but meh.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Get a bit higher and you'll have enough spirit. I maxed out every single mage and fox skill. All level 10 now, every single one of them other than the pet ones that max at level 93. Along with a level 79 skill and 3 sage skills, I have 2.5 mil spirit left which I'm saving for my other level 79 skills and sage skills.

    I see the genie as a good thing. Have it eat all my exp, I take much longer to level, I get more spirit and rep for my level. Everything is better.
    Main characters
    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Briegg - Sanctuary
    Briegg - Sanctuary Posts: 584 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    36% of my level and 1.5 mil in spirit
    got my genie to level 70

    still 600k in spirit left
    and am back up to 50%

    i don feel screwed..
  • Granrey - Sanctuary
    Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Sorry, I could not understand your post.

    The main reason is that at your current level you should know how many spirits you have to spare (if not, you better start to find out).

    Why I use the word spare?. There is no reason why you have to level your genie. You should do it only with spare spirits unless you have an strategy for using your genie.

    I would never use exps to level my genie as exps are important to level up.

    In my case, since I dont have any strategy between my toon and my genie yet. I will keep my genie at level 5 and will remain there for long until I have spare spirits. when will that be? I dont know.

    I still have a lot of important skills for my toon to level up. So, the genie is the last of my priorities. As least I have it as all class water pet, which I could not have before.
    b:chuckle

    As I said in another tread, the genies are just new skills and now you have something in which to spend extra spirits that get accumulated at upper levels.
  • mbrunestud
    mbrunestud Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    lol i have 0 spirit now as well, but grinding will fix that. lots...and lots of grinding, which i dont mind that much. by the time i get to 89 i'll have millions of spirit again hopefully. and zoe, you're probably content to stay and grind at your current level, but others want to get to that sage/demon cult lol
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Why on earth are you people giving them exp? go farm spirit for petes sake! I had 15m when genies came, and still have 6 left for 79 and soon 89 sage skills >_>
  • Granrey - Sanctuary
    Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Why on earth are you people giving them exp? go farm spirit for petes sake! I had 15m when genies came, and still have 6 left for 79 and soon 89 sage skills >_>

    I ask myself the same questionb:chuckle
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    mbrunestud wrote: »
    lol i have 0 spirit now as well, but grinding will fix that. lots...and lots of grinding, which i dont mind that much. by the time i get to 89 i'll have millions of spirit again hopefully. and zoe, you're probably content to stay and grind at your current level, but others want to get to that sage/demon cult lol

    Did you even look at my level? I'm 91 and already a sage.b:laugh

    My skill list looks like this:

    Every single skill a veno has that you learn starting at level 59 and lower, is level 10

    Pet skills are level 9, they max at character level 93

    1/3 level 79 skills

    Sage Venomous Scarab
    Sage Ironwood Scarab
    Sage Foxform

    2.5 million spirit left. I think it's not a bad idea to hold off leveling to build my spirit back up to learn my later 79 and sage skills. Also, the longer it takes me to level, the more rep and coins I get for that level, making my later levels better since I'll have better things.

    Genies taking my exp = good.
    Main characters
    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Kitsuneaki - Sanctuary
    Kitsuneaki - Sanctuary Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    I used 2 mil spirit, got my genie to lv 77 and happned to be a rare one (stage 3/4) lved it to 78 when i got more exp. Higher lvs lets say 90+ get tons of spirit, and nothing to do with it. I'm sure most high lvs made out really well with the genies. If you think your getting screwd then don't do it b:laugh
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    6X Sin on RT
  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Granrey - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Why I use the word spare?. There is no reason why you have to level your genie. You should do it only with spare spirits unless you have an strategy for using your genie.

    I have a strategy for all 4 of my genies. b:laugh They've actually become an important part of my playing now. I have a HUGE edge up now, because of these guys. And, yeah, I kinda burnt every bit of EXP and Spirit I have. I'll stop dumping into them as soon as I get them all to the level where they can learn all the skills I want them to have. Then, I'll just level them casually with some spare EXP I want to toss at them, probably from doing CS, since I grind to level anyway.

    I use Mage/Fox trees, just FYI for people that want to scream "STUPID VENO!!!!"
  • Axemanek - Heavens Tear
    Axemanek - Heavens Tear Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    exent wrote: »
    You know, I've seen so many posts about people saying the got screwed by this or that... From the start, you decided to invest these points, so what are you saying? That you regret? Nobody HAS to use genies. Nobody HAS to use their precious xp or sp. That expansion is great cause it didn't cost ANYTHING. It gives players a new option.
    Now for all those who are gonna waste all their xp and sp and get frustrated if they don't get a gold genie at the end, well too bad for you. You knew from the start what you were doing. It's like all those who waste gold on lucky boxes and complain if they didn't get what they wanted.
    This is seriously one of the greates expansions I've seen in a long time, and I've played many games before. Trust me, I've seen what an epic fail expansion is, and this is as far as you can get from that...

    I agree with you completely!
    It is your choice to level your genie!
    I Want To Eat Estasi & Send Her Into Extasy!! b:victory

    May The Force Not Be With You!

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