GM question (Regeneration Aura) in combat?

Chrisssss - Sanctuary · May 2009

OK last night I did a FB 70 where you have to use the Blue Bubble for AOE and me and my fac members thought it was bugged because the person using the BB kept getting knocked out of it. So today I was talking to some of my closest friends bout this bug and to my surprise its not bugged just changed from the last update. So this is for all the GMs who can answer me this.

DOES THE REGENERATION AURA AKA BLUE BUBBLE PUT CLERICS INTO COMBAT MODE DURING THE TIME ITS CAST??????

If its the case then......why???

As a cleric in this game it really hurts us because now we have to gather mats for sparks pots, spend money or gather mats for HP charms or remeadys, and gathers mats or MP charms for MP to keep this skill up. Basically by doing this you made it extreamly hard on and already hard lvl to keep money for repair fee's, extra mats if needed, CS and WQ, leveling, skills, on and on....

Not only does it hurt Clerics but now other classes as well here a list of list of things the BB is used for as far as my knowledge.

FBs 39, 51, 70 and I'm guessing FB 79+
Zhen's (big time)
TT's (expecially the last boss for TT 60)
Any AOE (area of effect bosses)

So as a player and I lov to play this game and with no disrespect but this is really a cheap and dirty way to get players to spend money. One thing that attracted me to this game was the fact that it was free to a certain extent. Now with this comming up me it makes me wonder what is the next that you guys will be willing to do to get players to spend irl money? I understand you need money to keep the servers up but this is really a cheap way to do it. I was going to spend irl money on the prepaid cards but now idk.....

Nayiro - Sanctuary · May 2009

GMs can't do anything about it, it's all abotu the developers. GMs make sure everything is running OK and have to put up with everyone's bitching all day.

And they do a fantastic job compared to other GMs in F2P games

Also, FB70 doesn't need BB xD

Chrisssss - Sanctuary · May 2009

They can still answer my question. Also there are 2 bosses in FB 70 that uses aoe you don't have to use the BB but some ppl still do. I've done it both ways BB and chromatic healing beam. As far as I know this is the closest I can get to asking the question and giving my opinion about it.

Seablue - Sanctuary · May 2009

I think bb automatically makes you go into combat mode according to this (post #8). It doesn't help that you're being hit by aoe which make you go combat mode anyway.

If I remember correctly, bb can be interupted prior to the last update. It happened to my squad twice in fb69. I never seen them being interupted else where so I can't say that aoe interupts bb. Maybe it's just that particular fb.

If you're talking about bb making you go to combat mode during the channeling+casting period, honestly I have no idea if it was previously like that.

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear · May 2009

Seablue - Sanctuary wrote: »

I think bb automatically makes you go into combat mode according to this (post #8). It doesn't help that you're being hit by aoe which make you go combat mode anyway.

If I remember correctly, bb can be interupted prior to the last update. It happened to my squad twice in fb69. I never seen them being interupted else where so I can't say that aoe interupts bb. Maybe it's just that particular fb.

If you're talking about bb making you go to combat mode during the channeling+casting period, honestly I have no idea if it was previously like that.

Pretty sure it always did, I remember a epic guild party wipe at a world boss when the aoe managed to interrup both clerics BB, and stunning the tank.... There were bodies strung everywhere......

Loontjuh - Sanctuary · May 2009

There are some bosses that knock you out off your BB, dunno if it has anything to do with being in combat mode.

Like 2nd boss in fb 51 and last bosses in fb 70 are known to interupt BB.
But realy i never been in a squad that uses BB in fb's, usualy the tank gets spamed with IH an purify in fb 70, while others deal damage out of aoe range.

Lareish - Harshlands · May 2009

I don't have direct experience with Clerics & BB but this isn't something new. I was reading about bosses being able to knock clerics from BB about a month ago, well before the last update. I believe it was on an LA vs Arcane thread - the Arcanes were more likely to get knocked out of BB when the boss AoE'd, according to the poster, but the LAs were able to keep it up.

Suiryujin - Sanctuary · May 2009

isnt knocking a cleric out of aoe just a simple interrupt that comes with the attack? i mean death knights's aoe in the swamps always interrupts channeling. some spells just have that affect, its part of it. its possible that the fb70 boss have the same affect on their aoe

and about the combat mode...why shouldnt it? is there any situation where u would be using BB when ur squad or u are NOT in a combat situation?

u dont need BB for fb51, i dont know who told u that but it is not 100% needed.
fb39 i can see where u might want to use BB for the aoe boss but really... u dont have 2>.>
fb70. well if the boss interrupts BB then its the game telling to NOT use BB and use the aoe heal. considering the lower dmg and infrequent aoe from fb70 boss BB really isnt much of a need.
u dont need BB for fb89 to the best of my knowledge.
havent done fb79 so i cant say about that.

Dapheni - Sanctuary · May 2009

It's just a simple case of interrupt. Nothing bugged. In Fb70, it'll be better to have one cleric spamming IH and purify on tank and the other cleric to DD and chroma heal for aoes.

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary · May 2009

why the hell are you using regeneration aura in FB 70 to begin with? you can just solve their ice AOE problem with chromatic, only an idiot gets caught in the melee AOE, and you should be on standby to purify your barb for cenequus, not using regen.

i believe its not really intended to be spammed like people use and abuse it currently, it seems like with the huge MP/spark cost, that its most likely an emergency only move. not something to be relied on in constant. and as far as i know you can be knocked out of it, it is intended, as your local veno for a spark.

Chrisssss - Sanctuary · May 2009

Suiryujin - Sanctuary wrote: »

isnt knocking a cleric out of aoe just a simple interrupt that comes with the attack? i mean death knights's aoe in the swamps always interrupts channeling. some spells just have that affect, its part of it. its possible that the fb70 boss have the same affect on their aoe

and about the combat mode...why shouldnt it? is there any situation where u would be using BB when ur squad or u are NOT in a combat situation?

u dont need BB for fb51, i dont know who told u that but it is not 100% needed.
fb39 i can see where u might want to use BB for the aoe boss but really... u dont have 2>.>
fb70. well if the boss interrupts BB then its the game telling to NOT use BB and use the aoe heal. considering the lower dmg and infrequent aoe from fb70 boss BB really isnt much of a need.
u dont need BB for fb89 to the best of my knowledge.
havent done fb79 so i cant say about that.

Ah ok going back to the FB 70, I didn't know the games does that. I went though a TT 1-3 no prob with BB. So I have no idea what my buddies where talking bout.

Not commenting on this quote but from some other ones I've read. No I've never had BB get knocked out and it really shouldn't since Clerics are "squashy" and are easy to kill. This was I guess a thread of me jumping to conclusions. Yeah BB should NEVER get knocked off cause it's hard to get started up again and the user unless he/she just cast it should not get hit.

Michael - Harshlands · May 2009

Blue ball gets deactivated by AoE's that apply the "Stupify" condition to the cleric (slows channeling speed it also interupts all skills currently being channeled)

its why certain bosses deactivate it and others dont

Hazardus - Heavens Tear · May 2009

Last two bosses in FB69, Ceneques Polearm and Damned Gaurnob, both do physical aoes attacks.
By now you should probably know that casting has a certain chance to be interrupted with physical attacks.
Best way to deal with those two bosses is to have one cleric casting heals only while another heals and purifys.

Pixydust - Heavens Tear · May 2009

I have used bb alot in many tts and fb's. I have also used as a emergency heal on some aoe bosses..

some bosses effects can knock a cleric in bb out of itvery easily,, and it is very true that a physical attack has knocked me out of bb when the tank was killed by a boss and agroed me cause off bb healing ..

It is best servered on bosses that can't knock a cleric out of it ,but this doesn't mean that it alwas will on physical bosses just a chance on it there..

those with effect such as daze ,sleep i would avoid useing bb on..

that is just my experience on it.

Enina - Heavens Tear · May 2009

BB can and WILL be interrupted by normal interrupting skills. Stuns, sleep, ect, all interrupts your BB as well as what other attacks you could have been channeling.

BB has ALWAYS put you into combat mode. Normal heals don't, BB and RB does (presumably because you don't pop up a BB to heal your squad between attacks, but do it IN the attack).

GM question (Regeneration Aura) in combat?

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